Michael Steele: Tripped up by Their Own Lies

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Tim Miller 1:12
Hello and welcome to Bullard Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Delighted to welcome back to the show. Co-host of MSNOW's The Weeknight. Also a former chair of the RNC. He was Lieutenant Governor of Maryland. It's Michael Steele. What's up, Chairman? What's up, Big Tim? How you doing, baby? Look at you. Looking good. I'm doing good. Well, you think so? I don't know. I'm at the end of my wick, man. My vacation starts tomorrow. I got one more after you. So I don't know. It might be a little rough. That's all right, baby. All right. Don't worry.
Pete Hegseth 1:44
We got you.
Tim Miller 1:45
I'm just trying to sprint through the tape. Sprint through the tape. Man. There was a lot of shit happening yesterday. So we're going to play for a lot of people. There's a confirmation hearing for the new attorney general, the new director of national intelligence. The vice president was on Joe Rogan's show and had some interesting theories. Much to get through. I guess we'll start with Blanche. It feels like the most important story. This president's own attorney being attorney general. Why don't we just go straight into that? John Kennedy, my senator from Louisiana, just kind of asked about his relationship with President Trump. And I think it kind of sums up the whole deal. Let's take a listen to that.
Tim Miller 2:26
Are you and President Trump friends?
Todd Blanche 2:29
I'm his lawyer, was his lawyer, and now I'm the deputy attorney general.
Tim Miller 2:34
They call that the Kinsley gaffe for old Michael Kinsley. The thing about it is these guys just cannot help themselves. Right now, a lot of them, because they've had arguably a lot of success bullshitting people and pushing through narratives and upending so much of not just culture and economics, but, you know, the political dynamics that that have always been in a very important balance between Democrats and Republicans, between our country and the world. And now they sit there in their arrogance and in those moments like that, you know, and it gets better, you know, when the guy's sitting there referring to himself, you know, you know, as the president's, you know, lawyer, like, Dude, this is not how this works.
Tim Miller 3:28
This is not the role you're supposed to be playing. But it is the role Donald Trump wants to play. And that's the critical thing, I think, Tim. You've talked about it. I've talked about it. All of these actors are on the stage because that's where they want to be. And they're doing what they want to do for one person and one person only. Their self-value is zero. They have no self-worth. I don't care if you're Marco Rubio. I don't care if you are... This guy, right? The reality of it is you give yourself over in a way so completely and so fully, it's the only way you get on the stage, it's the only way you stay on the stage. So there were so many revealing moments yesterday Between both of those, the DNI, the attorney general nominees and how they responded when asked very simple, direct questions.
Tim Miller 4:18
That's when you see that butthole clench up real tight. Right. It gets real tight and they get real nervous and they just start hubbub, hubbub, hubbub. And then the truth slips out. Yeah, I mean, there are definitely two ways to go, though, with Todd Blanche. There is the psychology of this. Like, why do you want to humiliate yourself like this? Why do you want to be this person like this? And then there is the serious nature of this thing. You were around, Chairman. You were around after Watergate, right? How old were you back then? I don't want to age you, but... Oh, Watergate, I was 15, around 15. Okay, so it's kind of like my version of the Clinton stuff. And it's like, look, that's formative. You know, we made all these changes because the President of the United States was corrupt, and he was using the power of the Justice Department to go after his political foes.

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