S2 Ep1002: Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov: The Cheap Whore at the White House

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Tim Miller 0:08
Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Could not be more delighted to be here today with the co-host of the Raging Moderates Podcast, Scott Galloway, professor of marketing at NYU Stern School of Business, also host of the Prof G Pod and co-host of Pivot with Kara Swisher. It's the only man that pods more than I do out in the world. And you know Jessica Tarloff from the clips on Twitter. She's the co-host of The Five on Fox News. And I discovered when I was on y'all's show that you're actually Jessie. So we're friends now. So I can call you Jessie. Yeah, we're in. They didn't want their prime Jessie. To be dunked on by a girl Jessie. I'm definitely backup Jessie.
Tim Miller 0:48
They kind of gave you some gender-confirming name care over at Fox, I guess.
Oh, my God. That's a good argument to make, to be like, you guys are against this, and yet, look what you have done to me, one of your liberal prize possessions. No, boy Jessie and girl Jessie is just too confusing. Another host on Fox called him Jessica Waters one day, and he flipped out on air. It was very funny.
Tim Miller 1:12
I like that. I'm going to keep that one in my back pocket. I want to start with you guys. I'm very jealous of your brand of the podcast, The Raging Moderates. And I want to know who gets the credit for it.
Scott.
Scott Galloway 1:25
Oh, Jess, I don't like to take credit for things. I appreciate that.
Oh, go on.
Scott Galloway 1:29
No, no, no, really. I'm not comfortable talking about me. Yes, Tim, it was entirely my idea. There were forces against the idea. That was an easy one. And what's interesting is now every person from CNN has an idea for something called the normies or something. Yeah. Anyways, it's all about the brand. Although people say we're more raging than we are moderate.
Tim Miller 1:49
That's fine. Maybe, yeah. That's fair. But regardless, it's a good brand, actually. And if you guys ever collapse or if you have a fight between the two of you and you need to kind of sell off some of your pod assets on the market, I might steal it from you.
Scott Galloway 2:04
It's unlikely. Jess is way too easygoing. It would happen. A pivot that could happen, it almost happens every 48 hours. Jess is too easygoing and too mature. Yeah.
Tim Miller 2:12
Okay, well, I'm jealous and we'll figure something out. But I figured because I'm so jealous... of the brand that, that may be a good way to start because we're in, we're almost two months in now. I know it feels like, isn't that crazy?
I feel like the midterm should be tomorrow.
Tim Miller 2:29
The same. It's, it's hard. I've like, I can watch myself age on YouTube now. It's really distressing that I get to like see a daily hourly, like wrinkle depth grow. But I thought maybe I would just, you know, give you guys a chance to talk about what has made you rage the most in the first two months of of Trump 2.0. Jessie, why don't you go first?
So I appreciate the question, especially because it highlights our fantastic brand. So anytime the word raises... I'm here for brand awareness, brand lift.
Tim Miller 2:59
That's all we're doing here.
Totally. We're A-B testing this. So I kind of have two answers. The first answer is that the Trump administration is implementing Project 2025. And we... were told that that was what was going to happen, and then they did everything that they could to say it wasn't going to happen, and then it's so clearly happening that the guy who actually created Project 2025, who was pushed to the side when the press got so bad about it before the election, is now back saying this is beyond his wildest imagination. Like, they are doing such a good job subverting Congress, destroying our institutions, firing people, expanding executive power. You know, the Department of Education... It has to be technically an act of Congress to get rid of it, but who knows at this point, right?
If you have judges' orders that you're openly flouting and then saying, and we're going to continue to do it, the sky's the limit, essentially, in this. And so I'm most mad about, or most ragey, about what's actually gone on in the practical terms.

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