Susan Glasser: The Irredeemable Republicans

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Tiedetään.
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Tim Miller 1:03
Hello and welcome to the Bulwark Daily. I'm your host, Tim Miller. Delighted to welcome back to the show. Staff writer at the New Yorker, co-host of its political scene podcast. Her most recent book is The Divider, co authored with her husband. I think there's another book coming. It's Susan Glasser. What's happening?
Susan Glasser 1:16
Tim, uh happy August. It's so good to be with you.
Tim Miller 1:20
Good to be with you. Our friend and uh frequent guest of the show, David Frum, posted this on X this morning. I I thought it was a good way to frame up the start of the conversation. The war on the Eastern Front is lost. The economy is collapsing, his body is decaying. The leader escapes from intolerable realities into fantasies of monument building and renaming things for himself. That's pretty much the story.
Susan Glasser 1:44
I think it falls into the uh established genre of if I were a foreign correspondent, how would I cover this madness? And I'll tell you, Tim, because you're not here, I had this like, you know, classic Washington in the age of Trump out-of-body experience the other day. I was going across Memorial Bridge for the first time in a while. And I was in an Uber and I was looking down at my phone and I happened to look up. At the exact moment these two gigantic golden statues were literally inches away from my car window. At the exact
Susan Glasser 2:18
And I I couldn't help myself. I sort of shrieked out loud. It was as like, you know, I got it.
Tim Miller 2:23
An actual shriek like like audible shriek?
Susan Glasser 2:26
I did and actually the Uber driver was like, Oh my god, are we getting in an accident? And I said, No, I'm sorry. It just trumps goldification uh, you know, of the city. I wasn't gonna do it.
Tim Miller 2:36
Is that the goal is that the gold fingering of the existing statues or are those new?
Susan Glasser 2:40
Uh, apparently it's the gold fingering uh of existing statues. What we're living in here is the the gold maxing of Washington, I guess, by Donald Trump.
Tim Miller 2:51
Part of my holiday was in Berlin and Paris. So I I saw two arches and it I took a little bit of the joy away. So it was maybe the only time that I've let him invade my holiday, which was and the Brandon Brigade is fine. Let's focus more on history. The Arc de Triomphe is awesome. But I just found myself thinking about how wait really all this is was just Napoleon's Napoleon Trump small man syndrome wanting to create a bigger one. And and I c it kinda took me out of the moment a little bit.
Susan Glasser 3:24
You know, it's really it's so sad because for me, the Brandenburg Gate and and just standing there in that plaza is a reminder of what I suppose in hindsight was probably the best moment of our lives. We just didn't realize it at the time, which was the fall of the Berlin Wall and the you know, the sort of the final end of of in a way that World War II and the Cold War was In that moment, I was in college when that happened. And I've always felt like it's so rare, you know, that you sort of wake up in one world and and go to sleep in another. That's what that day in November of 1989 felt like. And, you know, I realize now, of course, that, you know, this this sense that we had, which we really had, it's hard to communicate that to young people today, but you know, we really had a
Susan Glasser 4:14
sense that, you know, this kind of moral arc of the universe that Barack Obama loves to talk about that it really was bending in the right direction after a lot of twists and turns.

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