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Chapter 1: Who is Charlie Kirk and what is the episode about?
Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here, live from the Bitcoin.com studio. Why are they going after Pete Hegseth so aggressively? It's not because he's failing. It's actually because he's succeeding. We also have Michael Knowles to walk us through what does it mean to select a new pope. For those of us that are not Catholic, it was a very informative discussion.
And finally, I close this episode out with something... about the Catholic Church that we evangelicals need to take seriously. We Protestants need to take seriously. Listen carefully. Text it to your friends. Because I'll be honest, I just don't like going to a Sam's Club to worship. I think there is something to say about making our churches as beautiful as possible.
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Of course, the breaking news that happened over the evening, over the night, I should say, late last night and early morning in Rome, the news was announced that Pope Francis has died. This is monumental news. I was reflecting. I have only lived through three popes. I have lived for 31 years and I've only lived through three popes.
We have, of course, I was born and John Paul II was pope and then Pope Benedict and now Pope Francis. He was pope for 12 years. He was the first pope from the Americas. He tended to be a little bit questionable at times on some of his things. Let's just say social justice perspectives, but I'm not Catholic.
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Chapter 2: What is the significance of Pope Francis's death and how is the new pope chosen?
Now when we build a city council, if you guys could get Arlington Heights City Hall, Illinois, and contrast that with the Prescott, Arizona City Hall. Yes, get Prescott, Arizona. This is the Yavapai Courthouse. That's a beautiful building built with Roman columns. So it's a courthouse, so it's supposed to resemble structure, order.
So it's built with a lot of rigidity, but it still lifts you up with the highest thing being the flag. Now contrast that with the Arlington Heights City Hall, which might as well just be the Department of Ag. Actually, that's more beautiful than I remember it. But... Not as inspiring. At least they have a clock tower to their defense. Good pull though, guys.
That's a much more appealing picture than it actually is. It's actually a huge parking garage. It's hard not to feel like evangelicalism is very shallow in the comparison to an ancient liturgy. And to be honest, the trend that we are seeing is a very positive one. People are seeking tradition. And what I hear from young people in particular is, is they say, everything is changing.
I don't need a worship song with electric guitar and smoke. I want to feel holy. And to be perfectly honest, it's a learning lesson for a lot of pastors I talk to. If you are not creating an environment where the people that come to your church can find holiness and meaning and can be elevated and You're not doing your job.
There was a time in the 90s where people were hungry for a personal encounter with God. And evangelicalism, I think, offers that better than some Catholicism circles. Maybe. That's to be debated. But times change, and needs and appetites change. And I could tell you, on Saturday evening... I wanted to honor our Lord the night before the resurrection.
So I knew the local Catholic church was doing an Easter vigil. Mind you, this goes from 8 p.m. to midnight. An Easter vigil is a very long-standing tradition in the Catholic church where they read basically almost the entire Bible. They read for most of the whole Bible. I go there and I couldn't find a seat at 10 p.m. at night on a Saturday night.
And almost half the people there were people my age. It was like a selfie line just trying to get in there. Everyone knew they followed the show. I said, is this a turning point rally or is this an Easter vigil the night before our Lord? Again, I'm not Catholic, but I went there because when I walk into that specific Catholic church, I point up. It's not a Costco.
with a rock band and a TED Talk and good coffee. To be honest, I've had enough of that. I don't want to go to Sam's Club to go to church or a school gym. Kind of enjoy the holiness, the beauty, the pageantry, the structure, the tradition, and the reverence. So I totally get it. God bless those churches for elevating our soul. Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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