
Enjoy Charlie's conversation with Pastor Allen Jackson live at Dream City Church, where they discuss his new book “Angels, Demons, & You.” They walk through the importance of being aware of the spiritual realm and what to know about the angelic and demonic forces around us, then take questions from the audience. To get your copy of Pastor Allen’s new book "Angels, Demons and You," visit allenjackson.com/angels. Watch ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chapter 1: Who are the main speakers in this conversation?
Well, there's a lot. Angels are warriors. In the book of Daniel, if we're going to go to the Hebrew Old Testament, you know, there's these pictures of angels bringing messages to Daniel, telling him he's highly esteemed by God. Now, Daniel is a eunuch serving his whole life as a slave in a foreign court. That does not feel like a position of great favor. We have to recalibrate.
You see, we tend to think God blesses us if everything's going our way and our lottery ticket won. Sometimes you can be living in the midst of the favor of God and paying a steep price for being a truth teller. Now, Daniel prospered in many ways, but he was falsely accused. But the angels are an integral part of that.
And Daniel was so trustworthy that God gives him a revelation of the end of the age, far beyond Daniel's life. If I could give you an invitation, be such a trustworthy component of what God is doing in the earth during your life that he will use you to provide information for the generations who follow you. It's a different attitude.
But you get to the book of Revelation, and the angels are central players. They're essential in the judgment of God at the conclusion of this age. And they're referred to in many ways. There's mighty angels. So there's a difference in the strength of angels. You wouldn't designate one as mighty if they all had the same strength.
So I believe there's as much differentiation amongst the angels as there are amongst human beings. They're created beings. And God seems, if to be anything, he's creative. So I think there's a great deal of diversity amongst the angels. And there are angels that are very engaged in the judgment upon the earth. When Jesus told the parable of the wheat and the tares, remember that?
He said that at the end of the age, the field was the world, and the angels would be the harvesters. So it's really against Scripture to imagine that we're going to lead our lives without angelic intervention and engagement. It says that we entertain angels and we don't recognize them, so I don't think they have wings and feathers or smell like cookies, if you remember the John Travolta movie.
Not that I watched it, but I have friends who did, and they told me about that. But I think it's really, it's not the only step, but it's a step in to the reality of spiritual things. I don't believe you can understand what's happening in America today if you try to understand it only in terms of politics or ideologies. There's a spiritual conflict for our nation.
And it's what makes the church so essential. It's what makes a night like this so essential. If we think because Trump got elected and J.D. Vance is the vice president, we can go sit back in our recliners and quote our favorite verses, we will forfeit the opportunity that God gave us last November.
So you said something very operative. So there's a temptation then to pray to angels. Can you reconcile how we are supposed to deal with angels? They are not God. They are created beings. So they're below our creator. But are they above human beings? Are they former human beings? What does the scripture say about that? Especially as we must, under all conditions, defend monotheism.
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Chapter 2: What is the background and ministry of Pastor Allen Jackson?
If you want to make sense of the change and the chaos happening around us, you're going to need God's help. That's why Alan Jackson Ministries, a friend of mine, created the Culture and Christianity podcast, the Culture and Christianity conference, and their weeknight news show, Alan Jackson Now.
Millions of people also listen to Pastor Alan Jackson's powerful sermons each week, I do, on radio, television, satellite, and online. In today's world, there is desperate need for truth, and Alan Jackson Ministries feels a sense of urgency to deliver God's truth and a biblical perspective to anyone who will listen. We can't afford to be complacent.
Their mission is to help people become more fully devoted followers of Jesus Christ, which is the most important thing, giving your life to the Lord, including here on The Charlie Kirk Show. Go to alanjackson.com slash charlie. That is alanjackson.com slash charlie to find recent podcasts. shows, and sermons.
Be informed, find encouragement, hear the truth delivered in a way that just makes sense. You'll also find books, studies, prayers, and other tools to help you grow in your faith. Again, that's alanjackson.com slash charlie, alanjackson.com slash charlie. This is our time to make a difference. Check it out right now. Hey man, how are you?
You keep growing up. Hi, I was just wondering, you touched on before creation. I was just wondering if you could tell me more about that, like what your opinion is on what happened before creation.
That's a good question. I don't really think we have the information. You know, when Genesis opens, it says that there was chaos, really. There's two Hebrew words used there that are used a handful of times in the Old Testament, and they almost always describe something chaotic where there's been some destruction. So I don't think Genesis begins with the original creation.
It says, in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth, and then it says, and the earth was void and without shape, and the Spirit of God is hovering over the face of the deep, and then God begins to bring order out of that. So there's some things that aren't there.
What the Bible is is the story of an almighty God and his creation of an environment for human beings to live in and how we can have a relationship with him. It's not the complete story. We don't know where God came from. It's not there. And so what we have the opportunity to do is to take the design manual and accept that truth and get to know this almighty God.
Or we can establish ourselves as in charge and we can figure it out. So I'm not trying to avoid it. I just don't think the information's there and my speculation isn't overly helpful.
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