Truth Matters ft. Robert George and Cornel West
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Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio. My conversation the entire episode here with Dr. Cornel West, who ran for the presidency actually as a third party, and Dr. George. How can we find fruitful discussion despite big disagreements? How can we get closer to the truth despite differing worldviews? Great conversation all hour. I think you'll really enjoy it. Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com and get involved with Turning Point USA at tpusa.com. That is tpusa.com. Start a high school or college chapter today at tpusa.com. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
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We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of The Charlie Kirk Show, a company that specializes in gold IRAs and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments.com. That is noblegoldinvestments.com. It's where I buy all of my gold. Go to noblegoldinvestments.com. Very excited for, and we're here at the Bitcoin.com studio, for the conversation that we're going to have this hour. And it's needed more than ever. When I go to these college campuses, I try to model civility the best I can. I don't always do that. I fall short of the standard. But two men in the public eye have modeled what it means and what it looks like to have fruitful disagreement in an age of division. And they are two professors at Princeton University.
First, it's Dr. Cornel West, who is the Dietrich Bonhoeffer Professor of Philosophy and Christian Practice at Union Theological Seminary and Professor Emeritus at Princeton University. And Robert P. George is the McCormick Professor of Jurisprudence and Director of the James Madison Program in American Ideals and Institutions at Princeton University. Both Dr. West and Dr. George join us for the full hour. Great to see you both. Thank you for taking the time. And you have both now co-authored, I should say, this book, Truth Matters. Dr. West, I'll start with you because we are the least ideological aligned, so it'll be fun to start with you, but great to be chatting. Dr. West, welcome to the program. Tell us about the book.
Well, first, I want to just thank you for having both of us. God bless you and your precious family. But no, we're fundamentally committed to a pursuit of truth. We recognize that we're cracked vessels, we're fallible and fallen. But truth is bigger than all of us, just like beauty is, just like God is, just like goodness is. and to be able to spend these 20 years with my dear, dear brother, Ravi, though I have a deep love of my brother. Love is not reducible to politics, and brotherhood and friendship is not reducible to being correct on political issues. I think brother Ravi's wrong on a whole host of things. He thinks I'm wrong on a whole host of things, but I can revel in his humanity. And I can take seriously the counter arguments he has against me. I think it cuts deeper than civility, though, Charlie. It's really a matter of humanity. And it also has much to do with what it means to be a follower of Jesus of Nazareth. We can get into that later.
Well, very good. Dr. George, add on to that. Add some context or detail. The book is Truth Matters. And talk about this friendship that you have with Dr. West. And how do you remain friends despite the fact that you guys have polar opposite views on many pressing issues?
Well, Charlie, first, thanks for the opportunity to be on the show. I love being on with my brother, Cornel West. And it's so good to see you again. It's been several years since we've seen each other. I'm hoping that we can get together sometime soon in person again, but it's lovely to be on your show.
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