The Charlie Kirk Show
Episodes
The Return of the Gods with Jonathan Cahn
13 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The ancient world was one filled with spirits and deities around every corner. Today, people claim to believe in no gods at all...but is that true? Me...
Andrew Tate Talk and DeSantis' Missed Turning Point with Raheem Kassam and Paul Manafort
12 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The conservative world will be fixated on south Florida this weekend for Turning Point Action, yet Florida Governor Ron DeSantis will be far away. Rah...
Trans Camps and Ukraine’s NATO Sugar Daddy
12 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Parents in America already have to fret about their children’s schools, doctors, and TV programs. Now, a new story shows they have to worry about th...
The Left's Terror at Physical Fitness and Warrior Men with John Lovell
12 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
A wave of news articles are warning that exercising and getting fit are inherently "right-wing." And guess what: They're right! Charlie explores how e...
The Bold Majestic Charitable Tall Terror of California with Laura Sextro and Rep. Lauren Boebert
11 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
San Francisco's Scott Wiener is a one-man wrecking ball of California politics. He's making it easier to sexually abuse minors, lowering the penalties...
Jim Caviezel Vs Hollywood
11 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Twenty years ago, Jim Caviezel played Jesus in The Passion of the Christ. Now, he's the star of the summer's breakout hit Sound of Freedom, and possib...
A Country ‘Lost in Trans Nation’ with Dr. Miriam Grossman and Dan Steiner
11 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
For years, the trans movement has targeted and purged every vestige of normalcy in America, until the country became so bizarre that the trans mania i...
Mass Vaccination, At All Costs with Dr. Peter McCullough and Matthew Whitaker
11 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Why did the Lancet scuttle a new report analyzing deaths after Covid vaccination? And why is so little attention given to the extremely healthy outcom...
What is Hollywood Hiding?
10 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Six years ago, the press shrieked about "kids in cages," now they shrug as tens of thousands of foreign children go missing in the American interior. ...
Ask Charlie Anything 151: Tucker Carlson’s Stance on Ukraine? CDC's "Chestfeeding" Guidelines? “Live and Let Live” is Dead?
10 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Charlie takes the questions you email him at [email protected] including: What did Tucker have to say in his interview with Russell Brand about ...
The Culture of Life and the Culture or Death — LIVE in North Dakota
09 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Enjoy this Sunday edition of The Charlie Kirk Show, where Charlie sits down for a conversation on the pro-life movement, protecting children in today’...
ThoughtCrime Ep. 4: The DeSantis Campaign Can't Meme, The Incel Apocalypse, Lizard People
08 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Charlie, Poso, Tyler Bowyer, and Blake Neff address cultural topics of transcendent importance, including: -Who is the unexpected frontrunner to be be...
"Who is One Eye?" and Other Hunter Biden Questions with Miranda Devine and Kane
07 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Dr. Gal Luft told the FBI he had proof of Hunter Biden selling out America to China, including by feeding them inside info from the FBI. Instead of ar...
Trump Leads Biden in Battleground States with Rep. Eli Craine
07 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
A new poll shows that Trump is beating Biden in the states that will decide 2024. But as Charlie explains, a poll is just a poll — if the GOP doesn’...
Retire Mitt Romney with Trent Staggs and Robert Lighthizer
07 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Want to improve the U.S. Senate? Here's a start: Send Mitt Romney into retirement. Mayor Trent Staggs of Riverton, Utah is stepping up to make a Senat...
The More Trumped Up Charges, The More Strength with Rich Baris and Heather Mac Donald
06 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Jack Smith may be planning even more charges for Donald Trump, but honest question: Who cares? Each "blow" for Trump only seems to leave him stronger....
Who’s Doing Blow in the White House?
06 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Just as the mainstream media was starting to accept the Hunter Biden scandal, even more information has bubbled up. Is an Israeli national telling the...
Big Layoffs for Big Government with Vivek Ramaswamy
06 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Why is Vivek Ramaswamy now polling third in the GOP presidential field, ahead of countless seasoned politicians and just a few points behind Ron DeSan...
Joy Reid Admits She's a Joke with Darren Beattie and Tom Schatz
05 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Brace yourself: It turns out Joy Reid is a fraud. The woman we all assumed to be a giant of intellectualism has revealed that she only got into Harvar...
A Fourth of July Free Speech Birthday Present with Sen. Eric Schmitt and Liz Murrill
05 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
After a victorious week at the Supreme Court, the celebration continued over the holiday with a perfectly-timed free speech win on Independence Day, b...
Speaking the Truth When it Hurts — LIVE from We the Patriots
05 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
How do you tell someone the truth in love, even when they don’t agree? Charlie answers that live from Boise, Idaho, along with other questions such ...
REWIND: Fourth of July Special
04 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
On this Independence Day, enjoy a throwback Ask Charlie Anything, where he discusses the founding fathers, Christianity and country, the Declaration o...
Ask Charlie Anything 150: What's the Evidence? Why is ESPN Dying? Good Movies to Watch?
03 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Charlie takes the questions you email him at [email protected] including: What, precisely, is the actual evidence against Joe and Hunter Bide...
What is Wisdom? My Speech to the Turning Point Educator's Summit
02 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Why are teenaged school children the most depressed, unfit, clueless, and addicted in history, despite limitless prosperity? The root of the problem, ...
ThoughtCrime Ep. 3: "Bonus Holes," The End of AA, The Shopping Cart Test
01 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
What is a "bonus hole?" Charlie gets a crash course in one of the left's most horrifying neologisms. Then he, Poso, Andrew Kolvet, and Blake Neff answ...
If a Barbie Movie Isn't Safe, What Is? with Peachy Keenan and Kelly Shackelford
30 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
A big-budget Hollywood film based on Barbie is coming out. Millions of girls will see it — but should they? Twitter personality and Substack blogger...
SCOTUS Scores Back to Back to Back with Will Scharf
30 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The Supreme Court has closed out its spring 2023 term with a series of huge wins for conservatives on religious liberty, student loans, affirmative ac...
The Five Fatal Flaws of Transgender Ideology with Frank Turek
30 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
LGBT activists insist that gender is fluid, and there's no such thing as gender traits or gender roles. Yet they also claim that a man can know he's "...
Biden Corruption and Bidenomics with John Solomon and Steve Moore
29 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
For years, John Solomon has taken the lead in exposing the Biden family's glaring corruption. Now, the rest of the world, including the regime media, ...
The End of Affirmative Action as We Know it?
29 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The Supreme Court’s long-awaited affirmative action verdict has arrived. But is it a victory, or a disappointment? The answer is “Yes.” Charlie ...
The High School Debate Disaster with James Fishback
29 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
As much as one-third of Congress did debate while in high school. Competitive debate is how future leaders are learning rhetoric and how to engage wit...
Will Red States Step Up To Prosecute Hunter? with Libby Emmons and Kash Patel
28 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Why are we relying on Joe Biden's Department of Justice to hold Hunter accountable? Kash Patel would like to know. There are about twenty-five red sta...
The Mainstream Media Breaks Their Hunter Biden Silence
28 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
After years of downplaying, excusing, or ignoring all of Hunter Biden’s blatant scandals, the media is finally discussing the truth conservatives ha...
The Q&A Heard 'Round the World
28 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Charlie's Q&A panel went viral across America and around the world thanks this his daring, edgy, unthinkable opinion: That women might have to mak...
Dave Weiss's Deception? with Sean Davis and Michael Seifert
27 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Dave Weiss, the man at the heart of the Hunter Biden investigation, reportedly told his underlings he lacked the authority to fully investigate the pr...
CNN’s Tape: “Bombshell” or Dud? with Senator Josh Hawley
27 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
CNN has released a tape of Donald Trump supposedly mishandling classified info. But is that really the case, or is there more to the clip than meets t...
The Six Million-Person Slave Trade with Kurt Schlichter and Tim Ballard
27 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Prostitution, child smuggling, organ harvesting: The world of global human trafficking is dark, and it is vast. Charlie talks to Operation Underground...
To Impeach or Not Impeach? with Reps. Jim Jordan and Chip Roy
26 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The latest IRS whistleblower allegations have Congress using the I-word again. Is it time to impeach Merrick Garland? Is it time to impeach the presid...
Regime Change in Russia...and America? with Jack Posobiec
26 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
What happened in Russia over the weekend? Charlie and Jack Posobiec break down one of the year's most surprising stories, as a private mercenary army ...
Big Pharma Won’t Like This with Candace Owens
26 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Candace Owens and Charlie sat down at TPUSA’s Young Women’s Leadership Summit to have a candid conversation about vaccines, whether or not feminis...
My Opening Speech to the Young Women's Leadership Summit
25 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The real patriarchy isn't having husbands, fathers, or male bosses. The real patriarchy is sick men in womanface demanding access to your children and...
ThoughtCrime Ep. 2: The Sub Sinks, Hot Conservative Women, The Cis Cage Match, Real Raw News
24 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In this week's edition of THOUGHTCRIME, Charlie, Poso, Andrew Kolvet, and Blake Neff sit down to assess questions of global importance, including: ...
The Hunter Biden Conspiracy with Libby Emmons and Darren Beattie
23 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The evidence against Hunter Biden looks overwhelming. So how did the Deep State manage to suppress it for so many years, then give Hunter a slap on th...
Reacting to the Hunter Biden Receipts
23 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The IRS whistleblower testimony has dropped, and it is some of the most damning in recent memory. Charlie goes through all of it: The DOJ leashing the...
The Case of the COVID Quarantine Camps with Bobbie Anne Cox and Dr. Kirk Moore
23 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
New York was one of the worst places to live in while COVID lockdowns and vaccines swept the country, but incredibly it could have been even worse. At...
Cut Off DEI's Money with Reps. Anna Paulina Luna and Matt Gaetz
22 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
After powering through one false start, House Republicans successfully voted to censure Adam Schiff for his lying and abuse of power. Rep. Anna Paulin...
Don't Fight the FBI, Take It Over
22 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Over and over, the refrain is repeated: "Nobody is above the law!" But despite that, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, and other corrupt elements in the FBI la...
Sinking Feeling with Blake Neff and Ann Atkinson
22 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
A $250,000-per-ticket Titanic tour has become an impending tragedy, as the Coast Guard scrambles to try and save a missing submarine trapped nearly th...
Can RFK Win? with Tom Del Beccaro and Sen. Ron Johnson
21 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
RFK Jr. is getting massive attention online and shaking up American political discourse. But could he actually win a Democratic primary next year? Wil...
The $10 Trillion Company that Rules the World with James O'Keefe
21 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Blackrock isn't the most famous corporation in the world, or the most profitable, but it could be the most powerful. The world's largest asset manager...
The Humiliation of Dr. Hotez with Dr. Robert Malone and Jeremy Carl
21 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Dr. Robert Malone knows a little bit about going mega-viral talking about Covid-19 on Joe Rogan's podcast. The man behind "mass formation psychosis" j...
One Year Post-Dobbs with Lila Rose and Mike Davis
20 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
One year ago today, conservatives did what was supposed to be impossible and overturned Roe vs. Wade. But the battle to end abortion is far from over....
Hunter Biden’s Slap on the Wrist
20 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
After five years of investigation, the DOJ has revealed its criminal case against Hunter Biden: Two tax misdemeanors and a pre-trial diversion on a gu...
From Abortionist to Pro-Life Leader with Dr. Haywood Robinson and Vince Everett Ellison
20 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Dr. Haywood Robinson once worked as an abortionist, but after a Paul-like spiritual awakening he became a leader in the national anti-abortion fight. ...
De-Romneying Utah with Gunnar Thorderson and James Lindsay
19 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Despite being one of America's reddest states, for years Utah's Republican Party has struggled to understand what time it is in America. Now, that's s...
What’s the Matter with Juneteenth?
19 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Juneteenth is another federal holiday, another day off. What’s not to like? A lot, it turns out. Charlie digs into what’s really behind this “ho...
Ask Charlie Anything 149: Muslims Joining the Conservative Movement? Burning Pride Flags? The Purpose of Juneteenth?
19 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Charlie takes the questions you email him at [email protected] including: What does Charlie think about Juneteenth being a federal holiday? Is b...
You Can’t Be Free Without Being Happy with Dr. Daniel Amen
18 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Young Americans are the most addicted, miserable generation in the country’s history, despite endless amounts of therapy and drugs that were suppose...
ThoughtCrime Ep. 1: Prideteenth, Topless at the White House, Beeping Smoke Alarms
17 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Charlie and Jack are proud to reveal an all-new weekly panel discussion show, THOUGHTCRIME. Charlie, Poso, Tyler Bowyer, and Blake Neff come together ...
6 Flaws in the Trump Indictment and Dodgers Celebrate Hate with Will Scharf and Sen. Marco Rubio
16 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Democrats, "legal experts," and even many Republicans have all lined up to intone dramatically of how very, very serious the federal charges against D...
8 Years Ago Today, Everything Changed
16 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Eight years ago today, America changed forever when Donald Trump announced his presidential run. In the years since Trump descended his golden escalat...
Are Humans Basically Good? with Yeonmi Park
16 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Are human being basically good, or basically evil? One woman with insight there is North Korean defector Yeonmi Park, who survived growing up under th...
The Justice System's War on Whites with Helen Andrews and Kane
15 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Jake Gardner trusted in the justice system to back him up when he defended himself from a violent rioter. Instead, he was driven to suicide after bein...
While Republicans Play Baseball, Democrats Take Over
15 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Donald Trump faces 100 years in prison over paperwork violations. Meanwhile, House Republicans can’t even get on the same page about censuring Adam ...
The People’s President vs the Pupeteers with JD Vance and Jason Chaffetz
15 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Who runs America? It's certainly not Joe Biden or Kamala. They're puppets, but who are the puppeteers? Jason Chaffetz has written a whole book on that...
Joe Biden, Caught Red-Handed? with Peter Schweizer and Michael Seifert
14 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Just how much money has flowed from China to the Biden family? What have we actually learned in the past week from the FBI? The man on top of everythi...
Flag Day… But for Which Flag?
14 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
On this year’s Flag Day, Charlie asks the important question… which flag is America's real flag in 2023? From the looks of the White House, corpor...
Extremely Domestic Extremists with Peachy Keenan and John Yoo
14 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Why is President Trump's popularity so unshakeable, particularly when attacks against him are at their peak? "Extremely Domestic" Substack author Peac...
"Get Trump": The Rosetta Stone of 2023 with Alan Dershowitz, Donald Trump Jr., and Ben Bergquam
13 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Nobody predicted the course of politics in 2023 better than Alan Dershowitz with new latest book: "Get Trump" is the guiding principle of the entire l...
Trump’s Arraignment: Live from Miami with Ben Bergquam
13 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
For the first time in American history, the federal government is prosecuting its former leader. President Trump is in Miami for his arraignment, and ...
Tranny-fying Schools and MAGA-fying Georgia with Jessica Tapia and Cooper Whitmire
13 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
In California it is increasingly impossible to be both a sincere Christian and a public school teacher. Jessica Tapia learned that directly, when scho...
Trump in Court: Go Fast or Take it Slow? with Kash Patel and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene
12 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Should Donald Trump demand his federal prosecution be resolved as quickly as possible? Or should he drag it out, and make 2024 a referendum on its val...
How Donald Trump Can "Win" the Indictment Issue
12 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Three days after the DOJ's unprecedented attack on a former president, Charlie reminds the audience of something important: We've been here before. Ag...
My Appearance at the Texas Leadership Summit
12 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
As a young adult, each person chooses whether to become a tougher person or a weaker person. While speaking at the Texas Leadership Summit, Charlie ex...
The Empathy Issue with Allie B. Stuckey
11 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
For this Sunday edition of The Charlie Kirk Show, enjoy a conversation between Charlie and Allie B. Stuckey where they dive into the dangers of self-l...
Saving Arizona: My Speech to the Republican Women of Prescott, AZ
10 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Is Arizona a blue state now? If not, how can it be saved from becoming one, and what are the lessons to be taken in other states? Charlie talks about ...
Inside the Trump Indictment with Andrew Kolvet
09 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The text of Jack Smith's Trump indictment has finally gone online. So, what does it actually say? What evidence does the DOJ have to justify a maximum...
A Nation of (Their) Rules, Not Laws with Darren Beattie
09 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The indictment of Donald Trump lays bare what has become more and more obvious over time: That America's old order, based on laws applied fairly to al...
BREAKING: The Trump Indictment with Alina Habba and Andrew Kolvet
09 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Live from Turning Point's Young Women's Leadership Summit, Charlie and Producer Andrew respond to the jarring and unprecedented federal indictment aga...
Facing Down an FBI Fishing Expedition with Tom Fitton and Kane
08 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Why did the FBI show up at Tom Fitton's house, then order him to testify about long-forgotten phone calls he had years ago? Fitton joins Charlie to re...
Crossfire MAGA 2024: Citizens or Serfs
08 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The Deep State dropped the ball in 2016. Now, it plans to never let a shock like that happen again. From coordinated Trump indictments, to the nullifi...
Everyone’s Running for President with Jason Rantz
08 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Mike Pence, Chris Christie, and Doug Burgum all announced presidential runs (or at least presidential brisk walks) this week. Charlie gives his though...
"Failure Theater" in the House with Rep. Matt Gaetz and Libby Emmons
07 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Rep. Matt Gaetz says that Kevin McCarthy breached the agreement that made him Speaker of the House by negotiating a deeply flawed debt ceiling deal wi...
Parents vs. the Perverts Party with Tina Descovich
07 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Human Rights Campaign, the nation's biggest pro-gay group, is announcing a "state of emergency" for LGBT Americans. The Southern Poverty Law Center ha...
The Decline and Fall of the FBI with Thomas J. Baker
07 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Thomas Baker has been around the FBI since the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan four decades ago. He's seen the FBI at its best, at is worst, ...
Has NATO Outlived Its Purpose? with Vivek Ramaswamy and David Bahnsen
06 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Should political expression be a protected right? How can we both end the Ukraine war and pry Russia away from China? Should we end NATO and replace i...
From D-Day to Be-Gay + Biden Whistleblower in Danger? with Rep. Anna Paulina Luna
06 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
On the 79th anniversary of the D-Day landings, Charlie represents on the tremendous bravery America's fighting men showed so long ago, and asks: How d...
Two and a Half Years for Trespassing with John Strand and John O'Shea
06 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
John Strand walked into the U.S. Capitol on January 6...and that's about it. So why was he just sentenced to 32 months in prison by a federal court? J...
Trump: To Debate or Not to Debate? with Raheem Kassam and John Rich
05 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
To debate or not debate? That is the question for Donald Trump's campaign, with the GOP primary field bigger than ever even as Trump's polling lead gr...
TPUSA Turns 11 + the Billion Dollar GOP Barricade
05 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
On the eleventh anniversary of Turning Point USA, Charlie looks back on what has been an incredible journey, including some of the group’s greatest ...
Ask Charlie Anything 148: Millennials Moving Right? Bloated GOP Primary Field? What Are The Ten Commandments?
05 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Charlie takes the questions you email him at [email protected] including: How are millennials shifting politically as they approach 40? Is Ta...
They Want You to Overreact — Live with Dr. James Lindsay at the TPUSA Pastor’s Summit
04 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Charlie is joined live on stage and takes your questions alongside the brilliant Dr. James Lindsay, who provides a commentary on society that you prob...
The Five False Faiths of 2023 America: Live at Awaken Church
03 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
What are the five false religions that supposedly "secular" Americans are picking in the place of Christianity? Why is failing to vote not only lazy, ...
Play to Win, or Just Playing? with Jack Posobiec and Darren Beattie
03 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Republicans will be competing in the 2024 elections, but will they just be showing up, or playing to win? Jack Posobiec guest hosts, and explains why ...
How Elon Musk Enabled the Target Boycott with James O'Keefe, Jimmy Levy, and Forgiato Blow
02 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Conservative musical artists Jimmy Levy and Forgiato Blow are topping the music charts with "Boyott Target," their song attacking Target and its sexua...
Turning Point Action Pledges $5 Million to Ballot Chase in Wisconsin with Scott Presler and Tyler Bowyer
01 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
A massive new report by NBC exposes the disastrous state of the GOP get-out-the-vote effort, which is low on manpower and rife with inefficiency and o...
The Summer of Indictments + The Start of Pride Month with Alina Habba and Col. Douglas Macgregor
01 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
For the hundredth (thousandth?) time, CNN claims to have a HUGE STORY that will BRING DOWN TRUMP forever. What is it this time, and what does it actua...
The Grave Threat of Assisted Suicide + The Debt Debacle with Sen. Rick Scott
01 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
A viral video of a girl celebrating her grandmother's assisted suicide has Charlie amped up and ready for another culture battle. Charlie warn of the ...
Eat Less Chikin? with Citizen Kane and Rep. Dan Bishop
01 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Conservatives have recently struck blows against wokeness with sustained boycotts of Target and another radical pro-trans companies. But Charlie expla...
A Debt Ceiling Civil War? with Steve Bannon and Sen. Mike Lee
31 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
The House is about to vote on its major debt ceiling deal — and many prominent Republicans are furious. Could the deal have had more concessions in ...