DE-CENTER MEN Ft. Margaret Cho

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What issues does Margaret Cho discuss regarding misogyny and racism in comedy?

Drew Afualo 0:00
They refuse to acknowledge racism or systemic oppression so bad they start making merch. They're like, guys, we gotta do something. Let's all make our own flags.
Margaret Cho 0:08
Yeah.
Drew Afualo 0:08
You do a blue one, I'll do a red one. We'll do firefighters, cops. What the fuck are we doing? What? What are we doing? Why? Why? Hey everyone and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me, your fave. Everybody knows me. Who cares about me? On to the guests.

How does Margaret Cho describe her experiences with stalkers and harassment?

Drew Afualo 0:27
Today we have the iconic, the legendary, the amazing Margaret Cho. Thank you. Oh my gosh. Thank you. Welcome to the show. It's an honor. Thank you. I'm obsessed with you. Same. Literally same. This is so exciting. Same. I've had like a few like comedy legends on my show every time and obviously you're one of them as well. Every time I have them, I always find it so shocking that you guys even know who I am. I rely on you, you know, to deal with all of the shit out there.

What advice does Margaret Cho offer Drew about stand-up comedy?

Drew Afualo 0:54
Like I just, I need, I need you. We need you. I need you. Honestly, I feel like women like yourself, honestly paved the way for people like me. So I'm honored to follow in your very, very large footsteps. I'm so grateful. Thank you. It's amazing. I'm so happy to have you. For those of you who don't know, maybe live under a rock for the last however many years, Margaret Cho is an esteemed and very talented, very successful comedian, which is so incredible and amazing. And also I know you do like TV, film, all of that jazz. What are you up to nowadays? I'm on tour. I'm on this sort of long tour. I've been on it for about a year now.

Why does Margaret Cho find menopause to be freeing?

Drew Afualo 1:27
It's just like traveling and different places. And it's called Live and Livid. And it's really a one woman effort to protect drag queens, to protect the trans community, to protect trans kids. And I love the video that you made calling out TERFs against Dylan. Yeah. Dylan is my baby girl. I love her to death. She's my little baby girl. Like truly an angel. She's so sweet.
She is.
Drew Afualo 1:51
And she put out this beautiful song that's really just about celebrating her womanhood. Yeah, and who she is. You were so funny. Like, bitch, it's not about like, you know, this is one definition of womanhood and that these women are trying to somehow say, well, if you trivialize womanhood like that.

How do Margaret Cho and Drew address the backlash against the rainbow flag?

Drew Afualo 2:10
Like, it's not trivializing womanhood. It's expanding the idea of womanhood. Yeah, and that's also her womanhood. Yeah. Like, that was her experience, which was, like, my whole point. I'm like, nobody gives a shit if you don't like the song. Like, believe it or not, not all art is created for you specifically. So it's okay if you don't like it. Who gives a shit about that? But I was really getting irritated because I started seeing a lot of cis women saying things like, this is misogynistic, which I'm like, you use that term too loosely with this shit. Like, I don't like that. that i mean it's like no this is not misogyny this is actually celebration absolutely of femininity yeah and i and i even followed it up too and like other videos were because they were like well it's more so but the stereotypes or whatever the fuck they were their reasoning was for being a TERF
Drew Afualo 2:54
And I was like, okay, well, okay, let's talk about stereotypes. She talks about like picking up her meds, which by the way are her hormones. So you're a fucking asshole.

What are the implications of TERF rhetoric in the feminist movement?

Drew Afualo 3:01
If you're like, not everyone takes those. No shit, bitch. She knows that. Believe it or not. Having a one night stand, shopping, whatever. What is wrong with any of those things? If women do any of those things, what's wrong with that? And I was like, now who's being misogynistic? Right, exactly. So women can only do things like bear children and have a period. But the dumb thing of playing her song with that stony, stupid... face like these bitches with their stone faces like mad at the camp like mad like like fucking oh fuck you knock it off knock it off you're pissing me off it's so stupid and i hate when women are stupid like i expect that from men we expect it from men all day but when women are stupid it's particularly infuriating
Drew Afualo 3:46
Same. Literally, you're just like me, for real.

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