Chapter 1: What nostalgic memories does the host share about the summer of 1997?
It's the summer of 1997, and I've just finished a shift at the restaurant. I run home to smoke some really bad weed out of my beautiful three-and-a-half-foot graphics glass bomb. When I'm firmly in my own universe, I go to the kitchen to prepare my sacrament, donuts and a family-sized bag of Lay's potato chips, because, you know, salty and sweet is a stoner's best treat.
I run upstairs to flip on my 24-inch RCA color TV. In a pre-DVR universe, late-night basic cable was about as entertaining as it got. And I, a young, budding, mediocre comedy podcaster, was the master of this domain. I knew every channel, every television show, every late-night talk show host and every late-night talk show guest. I didn't miss a moment of Core TV or MTV.
But this night was different. I saw her for the very first time. This woman.
Who asked you to go out of town, the stupid young one or the married one? The married one. That's what I thought. Don't go, you hear me?
Talking to dead people in a fake Jamaican accent.
Michael, you really got yourself into trouble on that one, brethren.
Her name was Miss Cleo. She wasn't the first TV psychic, but she's one of the most notorious. The company she worked for, PRN, they made millions and millions of dollars. using the image of Ms. Cleo to convince people to call and spend $3.99 a minute to get comforting words about their dead loved ones from an absolute stranger on the other end of a landline.
It all ended in ruin, people got defrauded, and she almost went to jail. But Ms. Cleo had laid the groundwork bringing the ancient art of the psychic medium into the mainstream. And this was just the beginning, because many followed, and today, psychics on TV are a billion-dollar business. If you don't know about the booming world of TV psychics, either did I. I got back up this time.
I'm Brian Greene. Let's find out together after the break.
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Chapter 2: Who was Miss Cleo and what role did she play in the psychic industry?
Without belaboring the point, weird people have been saying weird shit for a long time. And us humans, we're willing to listen. What, I thought we were in the trust tree in the nest, are we not? When we get to the 21st century, radio and TV gave psychics a stage. Jean Dixon in the 1960s claimed that she predicted JFK's assassination.
Spoiler alert, she also predicted World War III would start in 1958. She was wrong, obviously, and off by about 73 years. It's really going to start in 2025. Not exactly batting a thousand there, Jean.
Hey, bada, bada, bada, bada, bada, saw weenie, bada.
It wasn't until the rise of 1-900 numbers and infomercials in the mid-to-late 80s that young enterprising scamsters found a new way to get money out of your pocket.
Well, you may have seen the late-night infomercials, buy one, get one free, order now, time is running out, all those promises.
While I found no evidence to give me the answer about who was the first 1-900 psychic, it was no surprise that PFN, or the Psychic Friends Network, Founded by Baltimore businessman Michael Lasky, is one of the first and extremely successful pioneers in the psychic hotline business.
When someone told me to call one of those imitation psychic clubs, I said, what are you talking about? There's only one true psychic service. The Psychic Friends Network.
Michael Lasky was a New York ad man who basically invented psychic infomercials. He co-founded that PFN or Psychic Friends Network in 1991 with Dionne Warwick as the celebrity face. Today, you'll find out what Dionne Warwick has to say about the Psychic Friends Network.
I think that anyone watching this show can benefit from speaking to a psychic.
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Chapter 3: How did the Psychic Friends Network revolutionize psychic services in the 1990s?
Oh, yeah, infomercial, guys. I mean, I know the average one lasts 30 to 60 seconds, but these guys go the full 30 minutes. That joke almost writes itself. They hooked up with Miss Cleo. They put her on TV, dressed her in bright colors, gave her a fake backstory, and boom. A star is truly born.
Her voice is as familiar as her face, and her expert psychic advice is just a phone call away. Please welcome shaman and author Miss Cleo.
At the height of her fame, Miss Cleo was literally everywhere. Her commercials ran nonstop. Her catchphrase, Call me now, became a pop culture joke. She was even parodied on other television shows like Mad TV. But behind the scenes, she wasn't the boss. She was just the face, someone who promoted the network. The network made hundreds of millions of dollars, while Ms.
Cleo herself was reportedly paid very little and in financial trouble. When the FTC cracked down in 2002, the Psychic Readers Network was accused of deceptive advertising, aggressive billing practices, and straight-up fraud. Federer and Stoats settled for $500 million in forgiven customer debt. Ms.
Cleo, well, she didn't actually go to jail despite the rumors, but her career was certainly over and she came close. After all of the dust settled and all of the spirits went back to wherever the spirits came from, she publicly came out as gay, did some voiceover work ā she was even in Grand Theft Auto ā and spent her life doing smaller readings until her death in 2016 from colon cancer.
So, yeah, just to be clear, Miss Cleo was not Jamaican, wasn't a millionaire and wasn't running the scam. But she became the symbol of TV psychic culture, the one we all remember when we think of late night infomercial fraud.
Truth is dimensional, my dears. It is not one dimensional. It is multidimensional. And that is why the cards work.
So after Miss Cleo went away and left a big hole in the teenage I'm-so-high-I-can't-see-straight entertainment gap, whole country back then was getting hot, you'd think America would have learned its lesson, right? Well, of course not. We're America. We don't ever learn our lesson. We just move psychics out of the infomercial and put them on prime time. Ha ha ha!
The 2000s was about to become the golden era of psychics on TV. And as far as I can tell, it hasn't stopped. It's only getting worse. First up, let's talk about John Edward. He had a show called Crossing Over, where the entire studio audience would show up and just watch him chat with their dead relatives. Just passing through. See anything you like, speak up.
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Chapter 4: What impact did Miss Cleo's infomercials have on the perception of psychics?
That's a quote-unquote psychic hit. That's all that's needed. Now the medium is off to the races. They can rapid-fire questions right at the person who is already in belief of the superpowers of the psychic. And even though 18 of 20 questions may be completely off-base, it's the two that the psychic gets right that allows for positive resonation. Let me give you an example with John Edwards.
Take a listen. And then tell me to say either Maureen, Marianne. There's an M name. Where's the M connection to you? Either living or past. I have a cousin by the name of Marianne. Marianne is, and Marianne's living? Yes. So I need you to know that there's a J name, like J-M. I'm getting J-M. So I want to say like Jennifer, but Jennifer goes with Marie or her middle name is Marie.
or Jennifer Marie on the same level. But if your mom has passed, and your dad has passed, and then I have this other father figure that we need to talk about.
But Brian, you may ask, what happens if they get it completely wrong? What happens if the psychic is 100% off base? Well, that's a psychic fail, and it happens more often than you'd think. Take a listen to this example from television psychic James Von Praag in the early 2000s. This might be the clearest example I have ever found of a psychic fail.
Well, we're back with medium James Van Praag, who has had us fascinated all morning about the world of ghosts and the unknown. And we're going to throw it open to you with our studio audience now.
Take it away and see what you can see.
Okay, sweetheart. Great. I'd like to start with this lady right here who's sitting right in the first row. I have a mother figure very strong coming around you, okay? And with the name of either Mary, Margaret, do you understand the name? Margaret Mary, okay, Margaret Mary.
And I gotta tell you that I feel before she passes over, though, there's a lot of hard time to walk or hard time to get up and get things going. Do you understand that? And I feel some arthritis, by the way. There's a lot of arthritis and there's a bone problem. There's also something with the back. So I don't know if she used to sit and have a pillow with the back of her. No. Or is that you? No.
No, that doesn't make sense to you? Okay, and what about trouble with the legs? No. Okay, who has trouble with the legs now? Well, my father's had two hip replacements. Two hip replacements. He cannot walk as well as he used to. Oh, no, he walks very well. Okay, okay. Right. Was your mother buried? Yes. Mm-hmm. Because she's talking about being buried and awake, or a funeral, rather.
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Chapter 5: How has the portrayal of psychics evolved in the 21st century?
Kathy? Catherine or Kathy? Kathy. I also don't know who's Catholic, but there's someone who's Catholic background. And we're all are. You're all are. Okay. So there was a mass set for, and she wants to thank you for a mass that was said. And there are prayer cards that are said. There's a picture of Mother Mary somewhere around. Picture of Mother Mary. Would you know about this?
We know about this. Well, all Catholics have Mother Mary around somewhere. Good, okay, well, I know. Of course, that was years ago. So I want to talk about something else with you, though. Music, music, music. I don't know why about music. Did you not do music? Were you going to do music when you were younger and you stopped doing music? No. Okay, you never wanted to play the piano? No.
Okay, who was that wanting to play the piano or music? Don't know. Don't know. Okay. I want to talk about this lady here. Your husband's passed over or your father's passed over rather. I don't know if he liked cars. The whole thing about cars, but there's something about cars with him. I mean, told me about this. Okay.
I don't know if he just recently got a car or there was talk about getting a car or changing a car. You are living or dead. Do you understand? Okay. I also want you, there's something about the car here with your father. I don't know, but I'm talking about a car here. I don't know what it means. If you're just getting a new car, you got a new car, but there's something with that. Okay.
I got to tell you that. I'm going to come over here to this lady. Are we almost close? Nearly there. Just to see if you could feel. Oh, James, you were so close.
But close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. However, you will notice what James did there at the end of the clip. He moves on to the next person. Because while he may be 100% off base with the person he's focused on, his peripheral vision is keeping a keen eye for cues from someone else. One of the dirty little tricks of this whole con job is to move from person to person.
Did your Aunt Betty ever cook apple pie? No. While someone else in the audience recognizes that their aunt cooked a mean apple pie. They shake their head in agreement. John identifies and moves to the next person, leaving the first person in the dust. But the audience doesn't care. They guffaw in amazement that John found someone interesting.
One person out of 100 whose aunt cooked a mean apple pie. This isn't a psychic reading. This is a guessing game. And done correctly. It looks pretty impressive.
I see smoke and fire, so I know that there's some level of that having to do with their passing or having to do with the connection around their passing. And I don't know if this was done because they wanted to get rid of evidence or if they wanted to get rid of something on that level. And is somebody now pregnant? The person who died was. So the person who passed was pregnant? Yes. Okay.
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Chapter 6: What are the ethical implications of psychic readings and their influence on grieving individuals?
Hearing that was one of the hardest things we ever had to hear.
She was the queen of daytime psychic drama. She would tell distraught parents whether or not their missing child was alive or dead. This reaches beyond prognostication, gentle and broad questions to make you believe that someone's talking to your loved one who has passed away.
And this is certainly not calling a psychic friend's hotline to figure out whether or not that blonde bartender at your local pub is ever going to give you a hand shandy in the back of your Honda Accord. Oh, no, no, no, no. This is reaching out into reality and ripping the literal hearts out of terrified, traumatized human beings.
Just imagine for a minute that you have children, even if you don't. And the worst imaginable thing happens. They go missing. You have no idea where they are. You have no conclusion. You toss. You turn. You bang your head against every wall. But then you flip on Montel Williams.
See Sylvia Brown with her stringy blonde hair and Jabba the Hutt posture, and she's telling other parents of missing children with confidence where their missing child is, what happened to their missing child, and whether or not their missing child would be found alive or dead.
Was he abducted when you say picked up? Yeah, abducted, yeah. He was grabbed? Grabbed. Is there any better description of the vehicle other than just a blue sedan? The vehicle is a blue sedan, and I think it's a Chevrolet.
But here's the problem. While Montel Williams played tiddlywinks with Sylvia Brown, riding those ratings all the way to being a millionaire, the damage was being done because she was usually 100% incorrect.
By the way, we've asked Montel Williams to respond to the controversy about the reading Sylvia Brown did on this TV show. He had no comment. He also took a pass on appearing on this program.
Famously, she told the mother of Amanda Berry, a kidnapped teenager, that her daughter was dead. And surprise, surprise, and the great kind of surprise, 10 years later, Amanda Berry was found alive. She's gone, honey. Do you know where she's at? In the house or under the house. She also famously got involved in the Natalie Holloway case and was wrong about that also.
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Chapter 7: What are the characteristics of modern psychics like Teresa Caputo?
Teresa does not have a down-on-her-luck story. She comes from means. Teresa has been afforded the opportunity to turn this parlor trick into a slick Shut up! Unlike Miss Cleo, Teresa Caputo came to television with an established community of people who already believed everything she was saying. In 2011, TLC launched Long Island Medium. To say the show was a hit would be an understatement.
Teresa Caputo is the star of the hit reality TV show Long Island Medium, and she has a very special skill, she says. She speaks with dead people.
Even though I know this will get blocked on YouTube because all my Teresa Caputo videos do, I'll play a little clip from one of those early episodes.
Okay, want to talk about who passed from the chest? Because they're laboring my breathing. My husband. So the way that you heal and the way that you grieve are going to be different. He said, from the moment I saw you, I knew that we were going to be together.
Teresa does readings for clients, friends, and strangers she would approach in public places. Her show's format mixed her big, brash, Long Island personality. Hair tease to the heavens.
We were planning to talk about your hair, and I just, it's like... I can't not talk about your hair.
Acrylic nails, as long as they can be. Loud family dynamic. She mixed all of that with emotional, psychic readings.
I said to him, I said, Brian, I said, why are we talking about that? And he said, I want always to remind my parents. of all of the things that I did accomplish.
It drew in millions of viewers. Teresa wasn't like a mystical crystal ball psychic. She was just an everyday Long Island mom with giant hair, an obnoxious laugh, and a funny family. This was part reality, part shenanigans, part sitting down with someone who seemed empathetic to your recent loss and simply telling you that everything was going to be okay.
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Chapter 8: What conclusions does the host draw about the future of the psychic industry?
One of the things that has always amazed me about Teresa's ability, quote unquote, is that she can have a full blown conversation with the person standing in front of her while also having a full blown conversation or two or three or four with the spirits behind her.
She often claims that the spirits never physically move her and then will turn around and claim that the spirits are physically moving her.
But a presence. See, for me, coldness is a presence of spirits.
She often claims she won't allow the spirits to give her any kind of negative details around this or that. And then she'll share negative details around this or that. She has said before in the past she can't see the spirits. But you'll notice in just the few clips that I've played, she claims she's seeing the spirits.
They had me stand at a casket and I saw someone viewed and I'm viewing someone's physical body. And they said, can you believe that this is how I was laid to rest?
She's a walking oxymoron. Says one thing, then says another. Does one thing, then does another. Whatever fits the moment. Whatever gets the job done. Whatever makes you believe that she should be believed. Also, and this is pure speculation on my part. I have no proof. This is allegedly. It's only a gut feeling that I have. Some common sense.
I'm using some practical, logical thinking skills here. Use your head. Why is it, for most of Teresa's career... that she has a ridiculous head of hair that happens to cover her ears. It's time to tackle one of the biggest hair villains of all time. Now, I'm sure she's been on daytime shows or television or whatever it is where she's got to put on an earpiece.
And it's likely that someone in the production crew, not her team, has had to do that for her or has wanted to do that for her. But I have always had a sneaking suspicion that Teresa may have her own earpieces and that her own staff may be working hard behind the scenes to fill her in on specific information that she can use with specific people in the crowd.
A plant, a second set of eyes or ears to watch the crowd for indications of believers. Why not use 21st century technology to keep the parlor trick going? What do you know?
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