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The Commercial Break

TCB Presents: After The Break

24 Oct 2025

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Chapter 1: What nostalgic memories does Bryan share from the summer of 1997?

2.663 - 26.106 Bryan Greene

It's the summer of 1997, and I've just finished a shift at the restaurant. I run home to smoke some really bad weed out of my beautiful three-and-a-half-foot graphics glass bomb. When I'm firmly in my own universe, I go to the kitchen to prepare my sacrament, donuts and a family-sized bag of Lay's potato chips, because, you know, salty and sweet is a stoner's best treat.

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26.862 - 51.833 Bryan Greene

I run upstairs to flip on my 24-inch RCA color TV. In a pre-DVR universe, late-night basic cable was about as entertaining as it got. And I, a young, budding, mediocre comedy podcaster, was the master of this domain. I knew every channel, every television show, every late-night talk show host and every late-night talk show guest. I didn't miss a moment of Core TV or MTV.

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But this night was different. I saw her for the very first time. This woman.

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Who asked you to go out of town, the stupid young one or the married one? The married one. That's what I thought. Don't go, you hear me?

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62.428 - 65.613 Bryan Greene

Talking to dead people in a fake Jamaican accent.

65.793 - 68.637 Unknown

Michael, you really got yourself into trouble on that one, brethren.

68.838 - 91.349 Bryan Greene

Her name was Miss Cleo. She wasn't the first TV psychic, but she's one of the most notorious. The company she worked for, PRN, they made millions and millions of dollars. using the image of Ms. Cleo to convince people to call and spend $3.99 a minute to get comforting words about their dead loved ones from an absolute stranger on the other end of a landline.

91.55 - 114.144 Bryan Greene

It all ended in ruin, people got defrauded, and she almost went to jail. But Ms. Cleo had laid the groundwork, bringing the ancient art of the psychic medium into the mainstream. And this was just the beginning, because many followed, and today, psychics on TV are a billion-dollar business. If you don't know about the booming world of TV psychics, either did I. I got back up this time.

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I'm Brian Greene. Let's find out together after the break.

Chapter 2: Who was Miss Cleo and what role did she play in the psychic industry?

284.333 - 303.023 Bryan Greene

That's right, two sisters cracking their toes and claiming to speak with the dead. In 2025, they'd either have a show on A&E or a million-dollar foot finder account. Without belaboring the point, weird people have been saying weird shit for a long time. And us humans, we're willing to listen. What, I thought we were in the trust tree in the nest, are we not?

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When we get to the 21st century, radio and TV gave psychics a stage. Jean Dixon in the 1960s claimed that she predicted JFK's assassination. Spoiler alert, she also predicted World War III would start in 1958. She was wrong, obviously, and off by about 73 years. It's really going to start in 2025. Not exactly batting a thousand there, Jean.

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Hey, bada, bada, bada, bada, bada, saw we, bada.

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328.013 - 338.49 Bryan Greene

It wasn't until the rise of 1-900 numbers and infomercials in the mid-to-late 80s that young enterprising scamsters found a new way to get money out of your pocket.

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Well, you may have seen the late-night infomercials, buy one, get one free, order now, time is running out, all those promises.

343.979 - 361.595 Bryan Greene

While I found no evidence to give me the answer about who was the first 1-900 psychic, it was no surprise that PFN, or the Psychic Friends Network, Founded by Baltimore businessman Mike Olasky, is one of the first and extremely successful pioneers in the psychic hotline business.

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When someone told me to call one of those imitation psychic clubs, I said, what are you talking about? There's only one true psychic service. The Psychic Friends Network.

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Michael Lasky was a New York ad man who basically invented psychic infomercials. He co-founded that PFN or Psychic Friends Network in 1991 with Dionne Warwick as the celebrity face. Today, you'll find out what Dionne Warwick has to say about the Psychic Friends Network.

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I think that anyone watching this show can benefit from speaking to a psychic.

Chapter 3: How did the Psychic Friends Network influence the perception of psychics?

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I don't know. I don't know. Okay. I want to talk about this lady here. Your husband's passed over or your father's passed over rather. I don't know if he liked cars. The whole thing about cars, but there's something about cars with him. I mean, told me about this. Okay. I don't know if he just recently got a car or there was talk about getting a car or changing a car. You are living or dead.

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1170.718 - 1172.441 Unknown

Do you understand? Okay.

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1173.223 - 1185.084 Bryan Greene

I also want you, there's something about the car here with your father. I don't know, but I'm talking about a car here. I don't know what it means. If you're just getting a new car, you got a new car, but there's something with that. Okay. I got to tell you that. I'm going to come over here to this lady. Are we almost close?

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1185.244 - 1188.549 Unknown

Nearly there. Just to see if you can feel anything. Your husband passed over, correct?

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1188.729 - 1209.553 Bryan Greene

Oh, James, you were so close. But close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. However, you will notice what James did there at the end of the clip. He moves on to the next person. Because while he may be 100% off base with the person he's focused on, his peripheral vision is keeping a keen eye for cues from someone else.

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Awesome!

1212.331 - 1235.309 Bryan Greene

One of the dirty little tricks of this whole con job is to move from person to person. Did your Aunt Betty ever cook apple pie? No. While someone else in the audience recognizes that their aunt cooked a mean apple pie. They shake their head in agreement. John identifies and moves to the next person, leaving the first person in the dust. But the audience doesn't care.

1235.349 - 1254.962 Bryan Greene

They guffaw in amazement that John found someone One person out of 100 whose aunt cooked a mean apple pie. This isn't a psychic reading. This is a guessing game. And done correctly. It looks pretty impressive. I see smoke and fire, so I know that there's some level of that having to do with their passing or having to do with the connection around their passing.

1255.263 - 1262.315 Bryan Greene

And I don't know if this was done because they wanted to get rid of evidence or if they wanted to get rid of something on that level. And is somebody now pregnant?

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