The billion-dollar fight over Aussie copyright

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Elliot Lawry 0:04
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Emma Gillespie 0:05
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Elliot Lawry 0:06
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Elliot Lawry 0:08
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Elliot Lawry 0:19
Good morning and welcome to The Daily Oz. It's Monday the 6th of July. I'm Elliot Laurie.
Emma Gillespie 0:24
I'm Emma Gillespie.
Elliot Lawry 0:25
Last week, something unusual happened in Canberra. A group of Australia's best musicians, artists and writers came together outside Parliament House, not to perform, but to rally. Despite what tech might tell you, copyright is simple. If you want to use someone's work, you need to ask permission. They were there to deliver a message to the Albanese government. Don't sell us out to big tech. On today's podcast, I'm going to explain what they're actually worried about, why the government is spending billions on courting some of the world's biggest tech companies, and what Australian creatives stand to lose. But first, here's a message from George.
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Emma Gillespie 1:36
Elliot, another day, another big tech AI story for us to sink our teeth into. This one is really interesting, especially I think for you and I specifically because it crosses over into the world of culture. We love a culture story. You a couple of weeks ago for the Culture Newsletter looked into this big AI data leak, this song scraping data heist scandal that a bunch of Aussie artists have been caught up in. And I feel like this story is kind of the next chapter.
Elliot Lawry 2:03
It's the progression, yes.
Emma Gillespie 2:04
Yes, the progression. So why are we talking about this now?
Elliot Lawry 2:08
Well, the inspiration actually came from our Instagram stories. I posted on there because I was feeling a bit dry with the news cycle and I wanted to know what our audience wanted to hear about. And they all said data centres. They said data centres. We're really concerned about them. We want them explained. We want to know what's going on. And then at the exact same time, I got a message from someone who represents ARIA. That's the Australian Recording Industry Association. Nailed it. And they told me that there was this big movement happening with a lot of Australia's best and brightest creatives around data centers and around AI. And I thought, hmm, perfect.
Emma Gillespie 2:45
Yeah.

Why are Australian musicians concerned about copyright laws?

Elliot Lawry 2:46
Lovely little crossover. Let me look into it.
Emma Gillespie 2:47
And, of course, that group of creators is not just musicians who we have heard a lot from. It's authors, writers, performers in all kinds of different fields. So let's take it back to data centres. I know this is a big question, but what are they?
Elliot Lawry 3:04
So the best way to think about it is every single time you ask a question of ChatGPT or Claude or even honestly any app that you use these days because everything has AI in it now, it's kind of going through these data centers like an actual physical place. It's not just all up in the cloud, which sometimes it feels like it's a bit more airy-fairy than it is. And it's being processed there and then shot back to you very quickly.
Emma Gillespie 3:26
So we're talking about massive buildings with rows and rows of servers. I think data centers sound maybe a bit more complicated than they actually are. It sort of is what we imagine, right?
Yes.
Emma Gillespie 3:39
Yeah. And then with that, there's lots of cooling demands that ties into the environmental conversation about the pressures of AI. Why are they so controversial? Is it the environmental stuff?
Elliot Lawry 3:51
It's mainly the environmental stuff. So as you mentioned, with all that processing, you need these cooling factors to happen. And that's mainly done through water usage. And that puts a really big demand on our water supply.

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