The Whiplash Over a Possible Peace Deal With Iran

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Rachel Abrams 0:31
From The New York Times, I'm Rachel Abrams, and this is The Daily. Over the weekend, we heard one message after another message about how a peace deal with Iran was coming. The framework was in place, we were told, and we were on the verge of it. And then suddenly, there was a new round of airstrikes and threats. And so today, I talked to my colleagues David Sanger and Tyler Pager about what happened and how to make sense of this dramatic reversal. It's Wednesday, May 27th. David, Tyler, welcome to The Daily.
David E. Sanger 1:17
Thanks, Rachel. Great to be here.
Rachel Abrams 1:18
Thanks for having us. It's very exciting to talk to both of you at the same time in the DC studio. You've been working furiously over a very long holiday weekend that I think a lot of people went into with some sense that there might be a deal to end the war with Iran. And then we all went off to our weekends, not you two, of course, but we come back and on Tuesday, not only is there no deal to end the war, but the United States, we learned, struck a bunch of targets in Iran on Monday night. So I think a lot of people are confused about the state of play and want to understand how did we go from a feeling that something might be imminent to where we are today, Tuesday afternoon. Tyler, you were with the president all weekend.
Rachel Abrams 2:03
Why don't we start with you?
Tyler Pager 2:04
Yeah. So we set out with this weekend thinking that there would be some significant development with the conflict with Iran. And really, it could have gone either way, that there was serious progress toward an agreement or a resumption of military action.
Rachel Abrams 2:21
Kind of two ends of the spectrum.
Tyler Pager 2:23
Exactly. So on Friday, I was part of the traveling pool of reporters with the president, and we had expected to travel to New York for a political event with Congressman Mike Lawler, and then continue on to Bedminster, New Jersey, where the president was expected to spend the weekend at his golf club, as he does many spring and summer weekends. So early Friday morning, I drop off my suitcase at the White House and come back around noon, And just before we leave, we're told the president will be returning to Washington directly and he will not be spending the weekend at his golf club in New Jersey.
Rachel Abrams 3:05
Or at his son Don Jr. 's wedding in the Bahamas. I think that's when a lot of people realize that there might be something going on this weekend when Trump announced that he was quite busy and might not be able to make it.
Tyler Pager 3:14
Correct.

What led to the sudden shift in U.S.-Iran negotiations?

Tyler Pager 3:15
So he was doing neither of those two things. He was coming back to the White House. And they didn't explicitly give us a reason. And at that moment, I asked a White House official, what should we expect for this weekend? And the White House official told me 50-50. 50-50, we're restarting the war. 50-50, we have a nuclear deal, or at least progress toward that. So on Saturday morning, the president posts on True Social about a call he had just had with a collection of leaders from the Arab world to discuss a peace deal that they are encouraging him to take. And he strikes quite an optimistic tone about what...
Rachel Abrams 3:57
He says, if I recall correctly, that the final details of a deal are being discussed. They're going to be announced shortly.
Tyler Pager 4:04
Yeah. And he doesn't give a lot of details. All that he says is, in addition to many other elements of the agreement, the Strait of Hormuz will be opened.
Rachel Abrams 4:13
And can I just pause here? Because at this point, I think people might be a little bit confused what we're talking about when we say a deal, when we refer to Trump saying a deal is going to be announced.

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