Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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From The New York Times, I'm Natalie Kittroweth. This is The Daily. On Wednesday, the U.S. charged Cuba's former leader and communist general Raul Castro with murder.
The charges stem from Castro's role in a decades-old incident when three Americans were killed by the Cuban government, and they were the latest escalation in the Trump administration's campaign to force political change on the island. Today, my colleagues Francis Robles on the story behind the charges against Castro and Julian Barnes on what the American government really wants from Cuba.
It's Thursday, May 21st. Frenchie, welcome back to the show. Thanks for having me, Natalie. You just got out of this Department of Justice press conference in Miami. You are, in fact, still in your car, and we appreciate you making the time. So tell us what it was like.
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Chapter 2: What charges were brought against Raúl Castro?
Okay. And what happens at this event? How do the charges get rolled out?
Good afternoon. I'm Madeline Pumariega, president of Miami Dade College. Welcome to the Freedom Tower.
I was kind of struck, to be honest, that the first speaker was Madeline Pumariega, who's a Cuban-American woman, the president of Miami Dade College. The building that we were in is part of Miami Dade College. And so it was interesting to me because she's a very prominent member of the community. But she's not a prosecutor. So it told you a lie.
It says that this isn't just a quote-unquote judicial or law enforcement event. This is a community event.
And to our brothers and sisters in Cuba, we hear you. Freedom will come. Cuba will be libre.
It's an important event to the city of Miami and the people in this entire community who have been waiting 30 years for this day.
It is now my distinct honor representing all of you to introduce the United States Acting Attorney General Todd Blanch.
And she introduced the Attorney General, the Acting Attorney General Todd Blanch. The hundreds of people in the room got up and gave him a standing ovation before the man even opened his mouth. Everybody was cheering him on because they knew what he was about to say.
Thank you. Thank you very much. It's great to be here in the great state of Florida.
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Chapter 3: What historical incident led to Castro's indictment?
They can do it, but it usually requires a very big ground force and unleashes forces that are out of anyone's control. Iran is a mess. Like, they don't have a peace deal that's lasting yet. They're contemplating starting strikes again. The Supreme Leader has been killed, but the government is as hardline as ever. They are not backing down from their nuclear program demands.
And if you look at President Trump's other foreign military adventures, foreign operations, they've been much more narrowly cast with a very specific goal of to kill a specific leader, to bomb a specific nuclear site, or in the Venezuela case, to capture Nicolas Maduro. When he has drawn the goals narrowly, he has seen more success. And so, if you look at Cuba...
The kind of long-term goal of many Cuban Americans of a Cuba free of communism, that's going to be harder to achieve. But if you look for more narrow goals, reduction of the power of the military industrial state, incremental steps toward elections, those are achievable things. You could make meaningful progress.
Even so, Julian, you more than anyone know that Cuba has been in the sights of the CIA for a very long time. So why would the administration take this on right now, given everything you're saying, given that the administration is already in the middle of a war in the Middle East, that people are already skeptical of what the administration is doing abroad?
Why do this now? Well, as you just said, Cuba has been a thorn in America's side for decades and decades. This is not some adventure that came out of this administration's head, right? There have been generation of American leaders who have tried to change the government in Cuba. It is something that is very important to a powerful constituency in the United States.
And Trump sees himself as someone who can cut through bureaucracy, as someone who can solve problems that have bedeviled the United States for years. He's someone who has little patience for progress or history, who believes through the force of will he can fix them or change them. And also, we do have Iran right now, and Iran looks like a really difficult problem.
And all of a sudden, he's got Cuba, and his pressure campaign is working better than they thought. So there's a sense here among some in the administration that Cuba could be the success that helps them move past the morass of Iran.
Trump may essentially just be looking for a win, you're saying.
If we know anything about Donald Trump, he's always looking for a win.
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Chapter 4: How did the Cuban Rafter Crisis influence U.S.-Cuba relations?
That fund is expected to make payments to Trump supporters, including January 6th rioters, who claim their prosecutions were politically motivated.
And... What I realized was a lot of Americans were not homophobic but thought they were supposed to be. And as more of us came out and our reality confronted the prejudice, we made great gains.
Barney Frank, the blunt-talking former congressman from Massachusetts who, for decades, was the most prominent gay politician in America and who wrote the most sweeping overhaul of U.S. financial regulations since the Great Depression, has died. He was 86. His signature legislation, the Dodd-Frank Law, passed after the 2008 financial crisis.
It regulated derivatives that had worsened the crisis, imposed new rules on large banks, and created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau as an industry watchdog. Asked about complaints from business leaders about the law, Frank scoffed.
Well, I hate to say this, but the impression I get most is that their feelings are hurt. Oh, you were rude to us. You said we were fat cats.
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Chapter 5: What was the role of Brothers to the Rescue in the 1990s?
You hurt our feelings. Get over it. I mean, I'm in the kind of business where people say rude things about us all the time. I've said that to them.
Today's episode was produced by Ricky Nowetzki and Diana Nguyen, with help from Lindsay Garrison. It was edited by M.J. Davis-Lynn and Michael Benoit. Contains music by Alisha E. Toop, Marion Lozano, Pat McCusker, and Dan Powell. Our theme music is by Wonderly. This episode was engineered by Chris Wood. That's it for The Daily. I'm Natalie Kittroweth. See you tomorrow.