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The Boys At The Bureau Got The Bomber | Episode 182

05 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: Who is the suspect in the January 6 pipe bomb case?

0.031 - 22.373 Vince

hey everybody welcome to vince great to have you with us on a friday holy crap we caught the bomber i love it i love it uh you know i told you dan bongino he goes off to the fbi you know what i think it's gonna be pretty good i think it's gonna be a good run i can't believe he's doing this but There he goes. And he'll have to have something to show for it. Man, he's got something to show for it.

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22.393 - 45.505 Vince

Happy birthday to Dan Bongino. We got a big show yesterday as all that news was breaking. And now we know a whole lot more about how the FBI tracked this guy down. The other big piece of this is why didn't the FBI catch this guy before? We're getting all of this today on this edition of Vince, a celebratory but concerned edition of Vince.

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Chapter 2: What details were revealed about the FBI's investigation methods?

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140.533 - 165.743 Vince

They caught this dude, the pipe bomber, the suspected pipe bomber, a guy called Brian Cole, caught in Woodbridge, Virginia, yesterday morning, just ahead of our live broadcast. His name wasn't even out as we... began the show yesterday, but we know a lot more about him as of today with a lot more biographical information to come, including his fundamental motivations. More on that in a moment.

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But first, here's the Attorney General of the United States yesterday announcing the good news from the Justice Department.

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173.708 - 206.037 Attorney General

Early this morning, Brian Cole Jr. was arrested and charged with placing the pipe bombs at the RNC and the DNC on January 5th, 2021. He has been charged with violating 18 USC 844, which is use of an explosive device. This investigation is ongoing. As we speak, search warrants are being executed, and there could be more charges to come. I'm going to let our U.S. attorney discuss that shortly.

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206.077 - 216.591 Attorney General

This was the work of multiple agencies working together. This morning's operation was carried out safely and successfully.

217.837 - 237.803 Vince

safely and successfully so as she was talking yesterday this was in the two o'clock hour eastern time yesterday afternoon uh they had to wait for the president to finish another peace deal that he had worked out and as soon as his peace deal conference was over uh they start talking about hey we caught this pipe bomber today and we're in the midst of investigative action right now that's because

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The FBI was continuing to search the home, the car, everything of this guy, Brian Cole Jr. They had taken him into custody. They interviewed him yesterday. There's a lot of activity going on. Police helicopters circling above Woodbridge, Virginia, the whole road locked down. We finally catch this guy after nearly five years of hunting for him, or at least a couple months of hunting for him.

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We'll get to what the old FBI was doing in a moment. And Pam Bondi said,

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this is not based on any new information remember when the fbi put out a request for assistance in october when they said hey if you got any more information let us know get to us we got a 500 000 reward here's this high quality video footage uh we want help we need some help to put the final pieces together here and pam bondy says the truth is nobody came forward

Chapter 3: Why did the FBI take so long to catch the suspect?

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What we did, an investigation spearheaded by the Deputy Director and the ADEC of our Washington field office, brought in a new team of investigators and experts, reexamined every piece of evidence, sifted through all the data, something that the prior administration refused and failed to do.

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As a result of that, we generated numerous investigative leads, executed multiple legal process with their U.S. attorney partners, and came to this conclusion today. And that is why we were able to safely secure this individual into custody. Yeah, so they just had the data already. They had all this stuff.

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I'll get to that data in a moment because since the press conference yesterday, we get an affidavit, basically a government document containing all the ways they tracked this guy down. And then you read through this thing, you're like, holy crap, they had this guy dead to rights. And you also wonder, wait a second, they had this guy dead to rights for a long time.

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492.836 - 513.266 Vince

This data has been sitting at the FBI forever. How is it that it took this team, it took Cash and Dan and the guys who are at the FBI now to finally settle this thing up? We'll get to that in a moment and the implications for the future too. But as you heard Cash say, and you don't even need to hear Cash say this. You know that, well, first of all, this audience in a big way knows this.

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514.249 - 532.193 Vince

This thing's Dan's baby. It is very unusual for the deputy director of the FBI to be involved in an investigative announcement at the United States Department of Justice. Why would you include the deputy director? It almost never happens. Despite their role in getting to the bottom of any particular case, you don't really hear from the deputy director.

532.233 - 552.94 Vince

There's a reason we haven't really heard from Dan Bongino at a lot of these statements and various press events over the course of the last year, because by and large, the tradition is you just have the principal do it. You have the guy who's at the very top of the food chain do it. In this case, that would be Kash Patel or the Attorney General of the United States or perhaps a U.S.

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attorney whose jurisdiction is responsible for the prosecution. You don't usually bring anybody lower down the totem pole up to the microphone to talk, even if they do a lot of work. But there have been a couple of events this year that Dan was very heavily involved in where his participation has been very highlighted. One of them was Operation Summer Heat.

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That was the effort to take all these violent criminals off the streets of America's cities.

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and cash patel just went out of his way to say guys look i everyone talks about the fbi that's great it is a team effort but i got to tell you this thing was the brainchild of dan bongino he was able to bring down violent crime across the country by how hard he was working with all of our various field offices to do that and he deserves credit for that wonderful news great great to hear

Chapter 4: What evidence led to the arrest of Brian Cole Jr.?

691.09 - 713.104 Dan Bongino

We actually never had to make that phone call because they were always responsive. Thank you, Judge, as well. You were amazing. Folks, you're not going to walk into our capital city put down two explosive devices, and walk off in the sunset. Not going to happen. We were going to track this person to the end of the earth. There was no way he was getting away.

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713.472 - 725.591 Dan Bongino

Well, we didn't have to track them to the end of the earth. It wound up in Woodbridge, Virginia. I want to thank the team. They were amazing. They never let this go. Again, Attorney General Bondi, for your incredible support.

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726.272 - 739.193 Dan Bongino

Director Patel, Judge, I know they're giving me a lot of unnecessary credit, but make no mistake, they were intimately involved in this and were there for all of those supportive mechanisms. And I deeply appreciate it.

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739.797 - 757.434 Vince

A lot of props in the chat for Dan. A lot of birthday wishes for the guy. It was his birthday yesterday, so that was pretty cool that they could catch this dude on his birthday. But I do see, I want to point to at least one message. I've seen a couple like this, so I just want to address it fundamentally. There's a guy called Count Gout.

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He's got gout or something, who's in our chat, who said, Vince, don't you mean it looks like they caught a theatrical cast member, a made-up bomber? What a joke. No, the joke is you, Count Gout. You're the joke. You're the idiot here. You're the rube. Because think about what's going on. Let me just point out the obvious. You think Dan Bongino is orchestrating a cover-up? Like, come on. Really?

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You think he's going to show up to a microphone and be like, yeah, we caught the guy in order to pull a fast one on you that he's like some deep state op? Come on. The whole thing is so stupid. How hard did you hit your head before you came up with this assessment? And you're not the only one. I'm just picking on you because you're in the chat showing up and running your mouth.

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But Count Gout says that it's not the only one.

Chapter 5: How did the DOJ announce the charges against the suspect?

800.715 - 814.118 Vince

I'm seeing this all over the place. And I'm convinced these are like bots. These people are psychopaths. At some point, if you don't trust anybody, you're done with everything. If you don't trust anybody, you're just done with everything. You're leading a sad life at this point.

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Is it true that Dan and Cash have inherited a shitty reputation at the FBI where we've instinctively developed a reaction to the things that come out of the government? We say, we don't trust this agency. Yes, that's the reason Cash and Dan were chosen to go into that job in the first place.

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because it was an agency with such a shitty reputation you had to send people in with a good reputation for criticizing and detecting the problems so they go in they keep their heads down they do their work and they demonstrate results so when they give you results and you tell them to off no you're the idiot they're the guys who went in there they put their asses on the line they actually produce results for you and now you should demonstrate i think a little bit of gratitude instead of this ridiculous attitude that is based on literally nothing

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862.04 - 889.545 Vince

So good for these guys. They deserve a victory lap. They deserve to come out and say, look, we finally did this thing. It's great. So not only is this Bongino's baby, which he deserves a lot of credit for, you know, he was doing an interview last night with Sean Hannity, and he was recalling what it was like just arriving at the FBI, like the world that he was arriving into.

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And here's what he had to say on that subject. Watch.

892.381 - 915.078 Dan Bongino

My first meeting, I swore in, and I kid you not, probably 15 minutes later, and the people who were in the meeting know, I said, when I get in there, I want a full brief on this Pipe Bomber case on day one. And I looked at the case agent after getting a full brief on what they'd done, and they had done a pretty extensive amount of work. They had chased down, I think, thousands of leads.

915.118 - 932.895 Dan Bongino

Six thousand plus interviews had been conducted. hundreds of tips, and it still was relatively stale, the case. And I grabbed the case agent on the way out, and I said, you're going to get me this guy. You're going to track this guy down, and you're going to find him. You're going to get me this guy. I want him.

933.516 - 946.587 Dan Bongino

And that started what's been almost a nine-month operation right now to make sure that we could get full accountability and transparency to the American public and find this guy. And today, we did.

948.22 - 971.579 Vince

Yeah, good for him. You know, we had Ed Martin on early this year. Remember him? He's the weaponization czar, the guy who handles pardons in the Justice Department for the Trump administration. And he was one of the first guys who told us, as we sat him down on our set, he starts talking about it. He's like, Vince, He goes, the whole thing, this is like Dan's whole like MO. He gets in there.

Chapter 6: What were the motivations behind the pipe bomb construction?

981.271 - 1004.734 Vince

Every single freaking day they're doing this. And so were they, they were letting it fall by the wayside? Hell no. The whole thing was about solving it. And in fact, you know, getting this guy, the left never thought it would happen. They never thought it would happen. They're pissed off that it happened. The Virginia Senator Mark Warner, awful human being, he got on television yesterday.

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He was annoyed by the celebratory nature of the Justice Department's announcement yesterday. Watch Mark Warner, cut six, watch the Democrats upset that we caught the pipe bomber.

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1015.905 - 1042.065 Dan Bongino

Look, I gotta tell you, It kind of makes me looking at this crowd doing a victory lap when all the senior FBI officials across all key divisions have been fired for political purposes. When in some field offices, up to 45 percent of the FBI officers who are doing things like counter-tespionage and cyber have been assigned to do immigration cases.

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1042.045 - 1063.945 Dan Bongino

It's a little rich that they're saying America is safer. How much earlier could we have caught this guy if resources hadn't been diverted? And I hope it would also remind folks that on January 6th, I was here at the Capitol on January 6th. It was an ugly, awful day. And this administration and this president basically pardoned all the perpetrators.

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1064.405 - 1072.052 Dan Bongino

You know, it's that kind of picking and choosing of facts from this crowd that makes me a little bit crazy.

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Thank you.

1072.859 - 1090.679 Vince

So that dork just inverted literally everything, but he's revealing something. He's tapping into something super important. You hear what he said? He's like, these guys have fired all sorts of FBI people. True, they have fired FBI people. They're getting rid of the political operatives. Now, he inverted this thing. He was like, oh, they're turning it into something political.

1090.98 - 1110.361 Vince

No, they're depoliticizing the FBI. They're turning it into a functional agency that actually goes after criminals and finds even guys in cold cases. And why was this case cold, by the way? We'll get to that. They go after guys in cold cases, catch pipe bombers. That's because they're actually doing investigative work. As Kash Patel keeps saying, let good cops be good cops.

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That's what they're doing with the FBI. It's fundamentally working. And then he said, did you hear what he said? He's like, they're taking FBI guys off of national security cases and then putting them on things like immigration. It is true.

Chapter 7: How does this case impact public trust in law enforcement?

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The FBI is very focused on our border mission right now. That's because the president is very focused on our border mission right now. He said, hey guys, FBI needs your help do this. It's been a massive success. The Federal Bureau of Investigation has intervened in helping with the border mission.

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And as a result, we've been able to hustle nearly 3 million people out of the country, whether it's through self-deportation or physical deportation from our country. These are massive numbers.

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way more to go you and i are demanding more more more obviously and the border is sealed up and they're getting violent criminals off the streets and they're bringing crime down the record lows and they're dropping the homicide rates this is all phenomenal news actually and mark warner's upset about it because he's a merchant of chaos that's what he'd prefer he doesn't like that things are settling down thanks to president trump and the fbi

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But the other thing is he said they took the FBI guys off of national security missions. You know what a national security mission is in the eyes of the left and in the eyes of the old FBI run by Christopher Wray? National security mission is crushing grandmothers who go inside the United States Capitol building, their own Capitol building.

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That's a national security priority, according to the left, destroying thousands of people's lives as a matter of national security. That's what he's talking about. And so he's upset that they caught the pipe bomber. He's upset that this thing is now closer to being solved. We've got the suspect. Now let's find out more.

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More ahead on how they caught this guy and the lingering questions that Dan and Cash are promising answers are coming for. All ahead on this edition of Vince. Great to have you with us. All right. We've got great sponsors on this program. Beam's Cyber Sale is continuing. Beam, I love Beam. Still live for you right now.

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Chapter 8: What are the implications of the investigation for future cases?

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They had videos, first of all, as you know, they had video surveillance of the guy. like a lot of video surveillance of the guy. And they established that the dude is, they said five foot seven was the estimate, five foot seven. And they ended up clocking this dude in at five foot six. He's five foot six.

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And they said that's well within the margin of error for the type of assessment that they were making. They reviewed video footage from January 5th of 2021. And they said it showed that the guy was planting pipe bombs at the RNC and the DNC, same individual. And we saw this video footage.

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He was observed on video surveillance footage at various locations in the surrounding neighborhood between approximately 734 at night and 818 at night. They described what he was wearing. He had the gray sweatshirt and the dark pants, the Nike Air Max Speed Turf shoes, the famous shoes. and a face mask that obscured his face.

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The video surveillance photos showed him adjusting eyeglasses at the time. That's an important detail here that he was adjusting his eyeglasses and that he was carrying a backpack. So they do, this is a fancy name for this, but they did what they call the reverse projection photogrammetry examination. which is a very fancy way of saying a height analysis.

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They did a height analysis of him and they determined that he's five foot seven, five foot seven inches with an error rate of plus or minus 1.1 inches. That's pretty dialed in on the error rate. And then they catch this guy. They say he's 30 years old, Brian J. Cole Jr. He's five foot six, so it's within the error rate. And he wears corrective eyeglasses. Okay, so those are two data points.

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He lives in a single family house with his mother and other family members. He works in an office of a bail bondsman in Northern Virginia. They ran down his bank accounts. They got his checking account, they got credit cards, and they were looking through his records dating back to January of 2018.

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And what they determined by looking at his purchase records was that he spent a lot of time at a lot of home improvement stores, buying the very materials that were found as a part of the pipe bombs. He was at Home Depots all across Northern Virginia, buying the materials that would eventually be found outside of the RNC and the DNC. So they were able to run down these records.

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They also found all sorts of bomb-making type equipment that was consistent with what they've, my guess is, surely been finding as they searched the house, whether it's the safety glasses, the wire stripping tool, the wire nuts that they found, sandpaper, a machinist's file, and protective gloves and disinfecting wipes as well.

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