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Chapter 1: What updates does Brian Windhorst provide about the trade saga?
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That was super rude and disrespectful, what we did to Amin, and we will not do it again. Let's play for Amin, though, the sound from Bill Simmons. Bill Simmons and his crew did an emergency pod to state that the Miami Heat are not contenders. And so here they were last night reacting to the news immediately.
Is Giannis on a better team now than he was yesterday?
I don't think so. I would say Bam's a better teammate. Maybe the front office is a little more motivated, but I don't think this team's a title contender. Do you?
This is going to test two of Miami's kind of like big myths of self-belief that they have, which is A, we're an attractive destination for top tier talent to come. Not untrue. And B, we trust our development so much that we can turn coal into diamonds wherever we look. And they're really going to have to dig now because they need to find four more guys.
Like this is not, this might be a playoff team in the East, but this is not a title team.
I mean, he said the myths of Miami and that they can turn coal into diamonds.
and i would just say okay who else has a track record we say duncan robinson and max streus and gabe benson okay those guys are recent but what about ike austin what about vashon leonard what about uh james johnson and hassan whitesided you go throughout all the way to the beginning of his tenure one thing they do really well is finding the guy that anyone could have had that's the moral of the story that any one of these 29 other teams could have had them
and some in fact did have them and didn't do anything with them but we did right that's what miami front office hangs its hat on and i don't think that's in question uh what bill is saying is technically accurate if this is the roster all seven or eight guys under contract yeah they can't contend for a title they can't even come compete in an nba game because they don't have enough filled roster spots
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Chapter 2: Is the Miami Heat a title contender this season?
And so you can be technical and say, today are they a contender? And say, no. And I would agree. They're not today. But the idea is, A, how can we build this thing out? And B, and this is a big one. When you guys acquired Jimmy Butler in 2019, and you guys said, oh, he's not a superstar. And I said, yes, he is. And they said, well, he can't win a championship by himself.
And I said, well, that's not the point. The point is, now you just made a big step to make other steps coming along the way. Do I think the Heat are going to win the title this year? The odds are probably not. But the idea is, and they did it for this year and this year only, and if it doesn't happen this year, oh, my God, our whole life is over.
This is a continuous process, and you just keep building and adding to it.
I think the point that Amin started with is the right one. When you have those big trades, I think back to Luka as the most enormous trade, none of those teams are ready immediately. It's unfair to analyze whether they can win the championship right then because you have to give up a lot to get something like that done. Your roster isn't currently constructed to be built around that player.
But where I do find the criticism, to be fair, about this team's potential to win a championship is understanding that under the new second apron era where you kind of are dealing with more hard caps,
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Chapter 3: What are the myths surrounding the Miami Heat's player development?
how difficult it's going to be to bring in other talented players which is why we get back to the like making these players building developing these players if a team has to do that the Heat are a team that can potentially do that but I mean do you see room or maneuvers with specific players in the future or is it unfair to be looking for that right now I think it's hard to find a path I think is where the criticism is fair is like yes you got the quarterback every team needs a quarterback to win a championship it's hard to find
You get one in the NBA, you got one, you can do it. Is there a path?
Yeah, I mean, I think there's absolutely a path.
How was it a part of that? I didn't know.
You know what that means. I'm sorry. I mean, Brian Windhorst is with us. Brian Windhorst has been reporting and opining on this for several days among the most credible people in the business. Brian, thank you. I know you're very busy today. What are your over? You want to say something?
What's the thought process with that?
It happened at midnight. We were in a big hurry. We do a show in the morning. There's not a lot of time for imaging.
They would have beheaded Jeremy for that, by the way. I'd be killed in the streets.
Just enough, all of you, for questioning the imaging. We don't work at midnight. No, not the imaging, the sounding. Yes, it's an alarm. It's an alarm signaling that Giannis has been acquired and that we are in a state of emergency. Thank you. It was him. And I've got a cold. It wasn't him. It was me, but my lungs don't have any capacity. That was you?
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Chapter 4: How do the recent trades impact Giannis's team situation?
He was offered. He's out there. I think one of the most important, you know, obviously this is a Miami centric audience that you have. The most important thing in the league right now for what's going to happen in the 26-27 season is that Boston's apparently decided that Jalen Brown probably needs to be traded for them to be, you know, the team that, you know, a competitive team.
Because that's now going to be the next storyline in the NBA. Obviously, the Heat getting Giannis is a huge, you know, from the moment they traded Jimmy Butler, they've been on the hunt for the next star. That's a huge story for them. You know, Boston, you know, sort of examined and then decided we're going all in. But I will say this. Boston could have offered more.
They could have put more things in this deal. They did not. So I don't think they viewed this as the be all end all that they had to get Giannis. It was their only pathway forward. I think Miami clearly had a little bit more urgency. And by the way, that may end up being, I'm not criticizing that, but they clearly had more urgency.
Boston kept some pieces out, which leads me to believe, I don't know, I'm not in Brad Stevens' office right now with all his whiteboards and all his plans, but leads me to believe that Boston thinks it may have some other pathways with Jalen Brown that go beyond having to sell everything out to get Giannis.
Do you think the Celtics will regret not doing this because of Hugo Gonzalez?
I don't think it ever comes down to that. I think there was way more multifaceted than that. We'll hear what the Bucks say. I think a factor in this, too, was if the Bucks made this trade the way it was presented to them, forget about Hugo Gonzalez.
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Chapter 5: What is the significance of Jimmy Butler's acquisition for the Heat?
If the Bucks made this trade, they potentially would have been in the exact same spot a year from now. They'd have a star player on their team, and they weren't able to build out their roster. Now, maybe they smash hit. this number 10 pick that they're going to make tonight. To me, the most important thing about this trade from Milwaukee is that they crush this draft tonight.
They need to move on from this deal. Fine, you made it. Have your press conference later. Crush number 10 and number 13. You've got to hit those players. That is what your pathway forward is, to crush those players. Tyler Hero is a quality player. He's a number three or number four on a high-level team. Let's just be honest. They need to get number one and number two tonight. in the draft, okay?
And if they had got a number 10 pick that could be a number one player, maybe they will, maybe they won't. How do I know the future? But if they knew that the number 10 pick tonight was going to yield a player that they could put Jalen Brown with and they could be a contender for the next three or four years, they would operate differently.
But I think the part of this, and by the way, they obviously stood over this. It took them forever to make this decision. And there was probably different voices who wanted different things. You know, maybe Jalen Brown was the better way forward.
But I think what they honestly decided was if we trade for Jalen Brown and then we can't put a team around him and we can't give him the contract extension, we're going to be in the same exact boat we were with Giannis in a year from now. And I do think that's part of this decision. I don't think it was about because they wanted, you know, Baylor Shireman.
All right, I want to set up a big reveal. Let's go around the room. What do you think, everybody? What do you think Stephen A's snacks are? What are you guessing? I think big Kind Bar guy. I got to let ā Brian's very busy. I got to let him go.
No, he's got to ā I think just to ā it would be funny if I ā I think it's like people have sent him snack boxes and stuff. I'm just saying I'm being very, very ā there's many things in here that people have sent him. Okay. There's many things in here. Someone has left him a terrible... I'm not going to touch it, but I'm just going to tell you.
Someone has left him a terrible towel with a note on it. There is fan mail here. There is suit swatches I would never touch and I would never wear. It's a very, very expensive fabric.
No, he doesn't eat that. He doesn't eat that.
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Chapter 6: How does the new NBA salary cap affect team building strategies?
He's a healthy guy now.
Yes, Stephen A. is not consuming chocolate, I don't think. So there's various nuts and berries in a box over here that says snacks. I am not touching that box. I am not touching that box.
We ought to check out Greedy's office. He's got a painting in there that someone sent to him.
Check it out.
We've got to let Brian go. A percentage of chance Norman Powell is still with the Heat next year?
Next to zero. Next to zero. I will say this, Dan. I've seen the Heat do some things over the years where they pull contractual things out of thin air, where they're able to get players to do things. There's a list of those players. Udonis Haslam was one of them. I remember Beno Udry. Wasn't that like some special deal they made with Beno Udry? Yeah, no.
So Mike Miller took less than he could have gotten elsewhere. So I would never, ever take anything off. I remember being on with you the week that LeBron signed, and I was sort of saying, I don't know how they're going to do this. And you said, because Pat Riley and Andy Ellsberg can do it. And I was highly skeptical. That was 15 years ago. I'm not that way anymore.
They've got $18 million right now to fill out five spots. Not like $18 million in theory, $18 million and they hit, not $18 million that they're willing to spend, $18 million, $18 million, hard cap, can't go past it, no way they can go past it.
They can create a little bit more space if they can, you guys know this, you guys know all this, if they can get Andrew Wiggins to come down from his 30 million, I don't know what that number is. I'm sure Andy Ellsberg has it figured out 17 different ways and had it figured out for a month. I'm sure they've already talked to him about it. They can create a little bit more room.
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Chapter 7: What are the implications of Jalen Brown's potential trade for the Celtics?
I was cooking for like 45 straight seconds. It was incredible.
And I started to feel myself.
So I started like, you know, doing shtick, like talking while doing it. And then I lost control. And it hit Dan Patrick right in the nuts.
Now, Chris, you've got to paint a picture. There are some people who are new to the show that don't know this. At Dan's wedding, it wasn't a traditional like at a wedding hall or whatever and banquet tables. It was kind of very casual, and you choose where you sat.
And so there was the one section that was Dan Patrick, and it was Mina, and it was Sarah Spain, and I think Pablo sat at that section. And then there was the reject section that was me and Cortez and Izzy, and who else was there?
I was there in that section. It was the couches.
Oh, Tony was there, too. And then there was the, hey, we grew up with Dan section. That was Chris and Greg Cody and all the other Codys were there. And then there was the, Sedano was there with Hawk, I thought, or who was he there with? Andrew Hawkins? No, I can't remember. Andre Dawson. Andre Dawson. There you go. Andre Dawson and some old Miami sports people. They were over there.
And so we're all sitting around. It was like a high school cafeteria. And we're trying to see, like, how do we make this co-mingle thing? And Chris was like, I'll start juggling. I'm like, oh, that's a good idea. And so he's juggling. And he's killing, by the way. He's doing a great job. Everyone's real impressed. And then he just went one juggle too far.
Dan Patrick caught one right in the nether region. No, I didn't know that story.
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