The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Football America! Top NFL Games of Week 12 with Conor Orr, Drip Drill with Mike Ryan Ruiz on the AFC East, And Why Miami is Better Than Notre Dame
21 Nov 2025
Chapter 1: What is the significance of NFL Week 12's top games?
Yes, hi, hello, my fellow football Americans. Welcome to Consequential NFL Week 12. Welcome to Football America episode number 27.
Chapter 2: What insights does Mike Ryan Ruiz provide about AFC East uniforms?
We're presented by DraftKings as ever. DraftKings, the crown is yours. We start by honoring the player who wore the episode number best, like I say, number 27. Here's a weird thing, fellas. Ray Rice, Larry Johnson, and Kareem Hunt. Boy, that number's got a stink on it. Mike and Gino, Gino and Mike Fuentes, you want to contribute here?
Oh, thanks for bringing us down into the mud. I mean, all right.
I'm giving you the chance to shine. I'm the one who got dirty.
All right, well, let's get a running back to sort of cleanse the palate. Let's do Eddie George just off the top of my head. For baseball, I'm going Vlad Guerrero. A guy could hit anything out of the park even if it was literally in the dirt. Yeah, I will also go baseball. The Fuentes household had a lot of Atlanta Braves baseball when we were growing up, right?
Because that's what the local team before the Marlins came around.
So Fred McGriff, the crime dog.
Crime dog. Yeah.
Ooh, the crime dog. You know, baseball. That's what I had, yeah. You know how everybody always says, like Mike Trout, nobody knows who he is. He's the most anonymous superstar or one of the all-time greats.
And it is, in fact, true because Mike Trout wears number 27, and I refuse to believe that if you went out on the street, if we sent Tashae out there with a microphone to say, what number does Mike Trout wear? No baseball.
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Chapter 3: What are the top five NFL games of Week 12 according to Conor Orr?
Self-identifying baseball fan would know what number Mike Trout, who is going to go down as one of the five best baseball players of all time. Anywho, we're talking about football and the Football Americans of the Week. Two guys who've been dropping me a line from Camp Hill, Pennsylvania, over there near Harrisburg, PA.
Mitch and Brandon, lots of thoughts on Mike Fuentes' ugly posture, inexplicable almost, against the innocent bird called Turkey.
Chapter 4: How does the Ja'Marr Chase spit debate reflect on player conduct?
Mitch writes, love the show. It's great. I also think your buddy Mike is burying the lead about the overrated Turkey. It's pumpkin pie that's overrated. Interesting thought there. Breaking news update on my Super Bowl 60 pick. It started out, as everybody recalls, Buffalo v. San Francisco. But Bosa and Warner took that down. It was derailed by those injuries. Then it was Buffalo and Green Bay.
But if the Pack loses this weekend, I'm officially jumping to the Buffalo Bills versus... The Los Angeles Rams. I talked to Jeff Schwartz on Monday. He made the case for Philly, but Lane Johnson is their Jenga piece. If he's removed, and he is for a little stretch now, they may not implode, but the ceiling is officially lowered. And by the way, nobody's talking about this trend lately.
The Chiefs are merely towing the line. if they don't make the playoffs or if they go out quickly in the playoffs. No Super Bowl runner-up ever does well. Always. Listen, file that one away for 2026 because it seems to be holding true once again.
Let's see what this fella thinks about all of what I just said and even more before he heads off to the banks of the three rivers to watch his Miami Hurricanes take on the Pitt Panthers. It's our pal Mike Ryan Ruiz. What's the poop, fella?
Thank you for having me here on Football America. Really excited to join this week because it's yet another platform that I could espouse my propaganda about the Miami Hurricanes and this unjust CFP committee.
I asked you to... I was hoping you would join us before I even knew of the firestorm that you were about to start. But man, you're all over social media and beyond campaigning basically for the Miami Hurricanes. And I thought...
Mike, as the world's greatest advocate for the 20th century system, which was all hash settled on New Year's Day, five bowl games, the 10 best teams by the time you put your head on the pillow, sad as you were because you knew when you woke up it was time to go back to school, grim reality. At least you knew who the national champion was.
And all the campaigning and all the rest of it was out the window because now we have a 12-team playoff and here we are. How say you?
Well, I think the only issue with that is these huge mega contracts incentivize these corporate partners to really tout just specific conferences. And I don't know if teams like Clemson would have had a shot at in the previous system to be national title winners when you consider just the daily thudding over your head about SEC, SEC, and now the Big Ten right up there with the SEC.
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Chapter 5: Why is Miami considered better than Notre Dame in college football?
It was still just the two-team tournament then. And Andrew Luck Stanford was good, and Brandon Whedon's Oklahoma State had only one loss, and that was amidst tragedy on a Friday night and everything else, as I recall. But LSU beat Bama. in Bama's house, and the excuse was, well, I mean, the kicker for Bama missed three field goals.
We know that they probably would have won the game if it weren't for that. So they put Bama and LSU back in the national championship game. Zero logic behind that, other than, well, come on, you know Alabama would beat Oklahoma State. Yeah, I also think that if you would put the Cowboys in the Super Bowl against the San Diego Chargers way back when.
They would have beaten them too, except that they lost the previous week to the 49ers, so the Chargers got to go because that's the system that is available, just as college football system should mean head-to-head rules over everything else, and it doesn't. But what I will say, trying to lean into the reality, for better or worse, that we're living in right now,
You've now set yourself up for this. Oh, yeah. With your pounding the table. Let's assume you beat Pitt. Obviously, if you lose, you have no case.
Quite the assumption.
Oh, if we lose, I just go into a hole. Well, you know, this is a must-win game, according to Pat Narduzzi, as opposed to the Notre Dame game. But you have to also now, they have it both ways. It's like, well, that doesn't matter that you won head-to-head against your competition at the start of the season. Now the yardstick is, do the Canes beat a common opponent on the same level?
Did they pound them the way the Irish just did? Because apparently November means more.
You think common opponents matter? Miami beat a common opponent in NC State by more. Miami beat a common opponent that Alabama had in Florida State by more. They dominated that game regardless of what the final score said. It doesn't matter. What matters is people's preconceived notions and agendas, Dave. To the pros we go.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of the new college football playoff system?
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The other thing I'll say is, and you'll take this as a shot and I don't mean it, I do think that the it means more thing is the U is obviously one of the fancy pants halves of college football.
The perception is a little different, though, because when people see those empty seats and stuff like that in the pro football stadium in which they play their games, I think that has some weird impact on people. Is there anything to that or no?
It does. I think Miami is a victim of something that they've deserved right now is people look at that SMU result particularly and say that's confirmation bias. They fooled you again. They're all talk. They're no action. And our preseason rankings are now justified because we underrated them. So I hear you.
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