The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Can David Samson Get an Amen? (feat. Gary Owen)
Wed, 04 Jun 2025
Gary Owen tells us how he won a Funniest Black Comedian contest in San Diego, and Dan somehow gets worse at teeing up questions for comics. Plus, we celebrate David Samson's incredible revelation that he gave a sermon at a Black church on the latest episode of Pablo Torre Finds Out. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 3: What challenges does Gary Owen face in the travel of comedy?
Kind of the way that Rick Carlisle was viewed for a very long time until he changed that narrative. It's a bummer that in New York, after giving them something that they've been yearning for for decades, that's not viewed as enough. He's not given the opportunity to change the narrative the way that the other two coaches were.
Can I just talk to you guys about this part of it, though? When we do the analysis and I say to you, Carl Anthony Towns is bad at defense, is it because he's bad at defense or is it because he doesn't care and there's something physically about him that's that either is a deficiency at defense, can't block shots, cement footed, not good at defense, or doesn't care enough to give you defense.
When you say change the narrative on can't get you the next step, if I sit here and tell you that Tibbs was the one coaching OKC, would you say that he's the coach who can't make it the next step? Like, because... I believe we can all agree he maxed out whatever this was.
Whatever you had on next steps, these are the furthest steps the Knicks have taken, and so whatever you thought this was going to be that's better than this, two games from the finals, to me, there's not a coach who's like, and I can do this, and I can do that, and I'll be six games better because you know it, because there's another coach who does know how to take next steps.
I'd say, as it regards Larry Brown, oh, he could have always done it, and then he had the team that actually did it. Took that team from Carlisle, though.
Yeah, it's like it's the moving lever of this guy's good enough until he's not good enough until he is.
And this is a narrative. This is a narrative that we've seen in other sports. Tony Dungy just couldn't get over the hump. Now he could in Indianapolis, but they needed Gruden to get them over there in soccer. There is bountiful examples of managers that aren't viewed as guys that can win. And then the replacement just strolls on in and changes fortunes.
Thank you. I have now filibustered long enough, Greg Cody, to get the sound that I wanted, which is the correct sound you guys have seen over the course of the last few years. It's been a marvel and delight to watch blossom on television. The reinvention of the career of Mad Dog Russo, who once upon a time invented barking sports radio.
and makes a career resuscitation no one saw coming in his 60s, just pining for the days of 60s basketball players. No one thought there'd be a lane for it. But again, the old white man wins in the media. It's a rare upset. So Mad Dog is back. And of course, everybody would want to know Mad Dog remains. This is what a titan of a career remains an important New York voice.
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Chapter 8: What is the significance of laughter in stand-up comedy for Gary Owen?
Pablo was like explaining to Bill basically like, hey, this is what I do. This is how I do it. Yes, it's stupid, but I take stupid things seriously, right? That's his whole moniker. Well, he was very likable in a way that sometimes he's not on the show. But I don't know if that's because of Bill or because of you, Dan. I don't know.
We will find out. Everyone here is both a little more likable and a little less likable because of their proximity to me. That's why I go to the bank and cash my cash in garbage bags. That's how the whole thing works. David Sampson has lured Dominique and Pablo into a conversation where he reveals something that might be up for suey best revelation.
This made my skin crawl.
OK, so how many people heard about this? This is this is so foul. And David Sampson is so foul. But he will take you in the bowels of sports business where no immorality can go can go without shame. Like it's unbelievable to watch and listen to this story. Let's listen.
I don't love the fact that I went into an all-black church trying to get votes for the stadium, and I stood up there and I said, can I get an amen? I don't love that I did that, but I did. I didn't know that you did that. Oh, I gave a whole sermon. I gave a sermon to a major black church in Miami because I needed their support for public money for the ballpark. How did you dress?
How I dressed is I went to visit a black...
Taylor.
And I had a suit made for me by Andre Dawson's Taylor. So I looked like Andre Dawson and it was awesome. And we had a plan of all the different people we had to get votes from. So we went to the Cubans. We went to the non-Cuban Hispanics. A hundred percent. I had to go get one personally made, a Guyavara. So I had to wear that to the Cuban. I think it's Guyavara. I don't No, no.
You guys are funny, but I did give the sermon and I did, I felt like I had the room enough. What does a sermon mean to you? It was about all the things that this 65 inch white Jewish guy could do for them. It was going great, and I had eyes with my Cuban consigliere. It was going great. It was. So they were giving you amens. They did that? No. I just had the view that I had their attention.
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