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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: The Dime Experiment (feat. Tom Bogert)

17 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 8.126 Dan Le Batard

This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz Podcast.

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8.146 - 21.229 Stugotz

All right. The first one is definitely out. Like, wait, Jeremy. You don't want to talk about Octet? Not even close. Like, that got no traction. We turned down topic number two as well.

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21.269 - 22.191 Unknown

Olivia Rodrigo.

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22.357 - 23.138 Stugotz

We're out on that.

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23.378 - 23.739 Unknown

Goat.

23.759 - 28.426 Stugotz

We are going to give you some runway here on the new Fockers movie. Go ahead, Jeremy.

28.446 - 37.498 Unknown

All right. So I didn't want to like this. I didn't think it was going to be good. But the first preview— Why wouldn't you want it to be good? Because I just didn't—they've deteriorated throughout, right?

37.739 - 40.643 Stugotz

I don't think I saw—was the last one— Little Fockers? I don't think I watched that.

40.663 - 43.346 Unknown

Terrible, terrible, terrible. Like, not good. Not entertaining.

Chapter 2: What does Tom Bogert report about the World Cup and Team USA?

442.161 - 443.863 Mike Ryan

And is one of those things ice?

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443.843 - 461.128 Tom Bogert

Hopefully not, but it's America, so probably. There are union workers in Los Angeles around SoFi Stadium have filed a complaint about the worry of ICE. That's just one thing. It's like whack-a-mole, guys. The last time that I was on this show talking about the World Cup, it was like, hey, where do you want to start? Do you want to start with ICE? Do you want to start with the human rights?

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461.148 - 473.785 Tom Bogert

Do you want to start with the prices? It's like all of it's negative because, of course, it is. And like, I don't want to sound like a hypocrite. We're all going to watch these games. I'm going to be covering the U.S. day in and day out. I'll be at all of those games, right? Like, so I guess I'm part of the problem by still being there.

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473.805 - 490.067 Tom Bogert

I know you guys will all be watching and everything, but it just sucks. And the tailgating stuff, what can fans expect? I don't know. They keep changing it every week, right? Like, and I don't trust FIFA. It's what they want is to control just about every aspect that they can. And in control, I mean monetize, right?

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490.047 - 506.335 Tom Bogert

They were supposed to have fan zones and you were supposed to like just outside of the stadium, away from the stadiums to just watch games. They tried to charge tickets to enter and then stick like the cities with the bills for security. And while that didn't make much sense, I believe New York, New Jersey have canceled some. Boston has fought back.

506.315 - 524.635 Tom Bogert

The New Jersey governor is feuding with FIFA, saying that like they were stuck with like a 50 million dollar bill for train tickets and secure and like security for those train travelers. So a one way ticket from New York Penn Station to MetLife, which, by the way, as a New Jersey and somebody who uses transit, I can promise you that's not going to go smoothly.

524.695 - 536.777 Tom Bogert

Nothing ever goes smoothly on transit. That ticket is normally 13 dollars. It's going to be like one hundred and twenty five. And the governor of New Jersey is like, it's either that or the taxpayers have to pay for it because FIFA is giving us no money why they make $11 billion.

537.098 - 550.967 Tom Bogert

So when it comes to tailgating, again, as somebody who grew up going to games that met life in the old Giant Stadium, there is nothing around that stadium. If there is no tailgating, you just go into the stadium, I guess. And I guess that's where FIFA can make more money. So I don't know.

550.987 - 565.093 Tom Bogert

Maybe there's a future where in the next World Cup, they're going to plan a, you know, hey, if you get tickets to the game, you have to do a FIFA breakfast and a FIFA lunch and take the FIFA tram and then the FIFA hotel and the FIFA after party. And just how many more ways can we make money on this as a nonprofit?

Chapter 3: How are ticket prices affecting fans attending the World Cup?

686.821 - 706 Unknown

With what? Yeah, well, I am. And that's fine. I'll wear it. Mike Ryan just touched on it. I remember when I was a kid growing up, I was like, get ready, everybody. Before NASCAR made the same claim, fifth major sport, it was like, look out for professional soccer. It's going to take over America in the next quarter century. It is not. Why isn't

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705.98 - 719.667 Unknown

As we sit here in 2026, why is it not that it's potential that the U.S. could make a run at the World Cup this year? Why is it so delayed, or has it not gotten off the pad at this point already?

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719.687 - 723.173 Tom Bogert

Damage check, do you mean the American interest in the sport of soccer?

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Chapter 4: What controversies surround FIFA's ticketing process?

723.254 - 739.659 Unknown

No, no, no, I'm sorry, the quality of the team. Why is it not more competitive at this point? This has been a couple of generations of investment and otherwise with like more kids are playing soccer now. Look out here. It's 2026 already. Tony Mioli happened, you know, forever ago at this point.

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739.94 - 749.554 Tom Bogert

No, that is totally fair. And there has been a lot of great work through like the professional pathway system because the shortened version for those who are ignorant of European soccer is there is no drafts. It is every game.

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749.534 - 774.883 Tom Bogert

club team is responsible for developing young players to your academy the more you invest in it the better kids you get then they go into your team so you get what you get out of it rather than you know being the wizards of the jazz who are tanking and and you you the Cavs get get LeBron after you know being bad for all right so the the American system has caught up to at least mirror what Europe has done and South America and Asia and Africa and we are producing better players but the game has continued to get better and better

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774.863 - 793.378 Tom Bogert

It's a great question. And again, this is the number one thing around these circles and the people who are planning these things of why it feels like we have players at better clubs and our pathway should be rivaling and our level of coaches. Why are we not seeing this? This was supposed to be a golden generation. And I use that a little bit loosely because.

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793.358 - 806.316 Tom Bogert

When you said golden generation, that makes it sound like it's an aberration. It's a one-off. This was supposed to be the first of the new normal. In 2022, the United States were the youngest team at the World Cup. They got to the round of 16 with the youngest team at the World Cup and a lot of really good stars.

806.777 - 825.183 Tom Bogert

Since then, most of the top-end players have either gone backwards or not come anywhere near this potential they were supposed to get. So things are more bleak than they were four years ago because that progress hasn't happened. It's not like a video game where automatically potential is hit. So there's a lot of talented kids to come out, but... Are they better than you said Tony Miola in 94?

825.644 - 839.908 Tom Bogert

We don't have a keeper that's better than that. Definitely not in this one. Tim Howard was the only one since. Tab Ramos is a midfielder on that 94 team. I don't really think that we have any better midfielders. And same thing, Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey, the forwards, like Christian Pulisic, the star of this team, he hasn't scored a goal for his club team since like October.

840.368 - 855.007 Tom Bogert

And he hasn't scored for the national team since he did a Trump dance more than a year ago, right? Like... this is the opposite of what you want going into the world cup and damage. Like it's a long winded way of saying, I don't have a good answer. These are complex questions and they should be better than they are right now. And the thought was that they were going to be.

855.027 - 857.871 Tom Bogert

So hopefully it's more of a blip, but this is a real bad time for a blip.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of FIFA's tailgating rules for fans?

1389.226 - 1412.758 Stugotz

But the part that I don't like is I feel like it's been so much this week that... The thing that I love, which as a kid, back in the 80s and then the 90s, I had to hide my love for pro wrestling. I couldn't go to school wearing a wrestling shirt. I'm wearing my Roman Reigns shirt right now because I'm a big boy.

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1412.738 - 1413.999 Mike Ryan

Now that's your work clothes.

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1414.36 - 1434.501 Stugotz

I couldn't go to school wearing wrestling clothes. I certainly wasn't going to talk about it, you know, because, man, if somebody hears that I like wrestling, like this is very taboo. This was like my little thing that I liked. And the thing that I'm afraid of now is I don't like the idea of people feeling that it's being forced down their throat.

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1434.981 - 1447.697 Stugotz

And now they're pointing like now, like they hate wrestling. that this is on their television. That part bothers me because I love this thing and I don't want people to hate it because it's being forced on them.

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1447.717 - 1464.66 Unknown

This is sort of funny for me because I'm listening to you talk about wrestling and it's reminding me of how I feel about theater and then I realized, oh, so this is what your experience is with our own show when I tried to introduce the cast list of Octet. You're like, I don't want this. I don't care about this.

1464.68 - 1466.522 Stugotz

I don't want this on my show. Yeah, the thing that I like is cool.

1467.16 - 1470.597 Unknown

That's lame. You understand wrestling is just theater, right?

1471.059 - 1471.903 Stugotz

Yes, of course I do.

1471.923 - 1481.924 Unknown

Okay. Just wanted to make sure. Yes. But cool, because it's for dudes. Yes. Got it. But that is, Zazz, I think what you're getting at is there is an element.

Chapter 6: How is the U.S. preparing for the upcoming World Cup?

1902.219 - 1910.038 Mike Ryan

I was right about, like, the fight. But, you know, it was ugly. Some dude got, you know, stretchered off. It was a stretcher job. He was okay.

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1910.058 - 1910.158 Stugotz

Whoa!

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1910.218 - 1935.327 Mike Ryan

Was it you? no actually it was yeah my not i'm not gonna put i'm not gonna say what did it in from a man's man are you saying mike ryan that you are the one who delivered the blow that got this guy backboarding no no it's actually like a no i'm not gonna say this story i'm not gonna say this story no we were we were swinging though like it was he was a big boy

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1935.307 - 1938.29 Unknown

Holy hell.

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1938.63 - 1945.057 Mike Ryan

Interesting story. I actually lost my wedding band in the middle of that fight, and this was in the infields of Grand Park in the softball field.

1945.077 - 1954.105 Stugotz

Was your wife with you? You could say that, yes. Oh, that's rough, man, having a fight in front of the wife, because the wives are just like, no, no! Not if you win.

1954.126 - 1963.615 Mike Ryan

If you only knew. No, if you only knew. If you only knew how this one went, but I'm not going to say that story. But the very next day, I did find the wedding band in the same infield.

1963.635 - 1963.795 Stugotz

Oh, wow.

1963.775 - 1965.377 Mike Ryan

They were performing at Lollapalooza?

Chapter 7: What concerns do experts have about the U.S. men's national team?

1982.619 - 1984.261 Unknown

The other time I forgot that I had done it.

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1984.882 - 2006.826 Stugotz

Dave, what would have happened in the middle of the game Someone gets hurt, and then on the broadcast they say, so-and-so, he's down, he's holding his leg. Upon further review, it looks like he tripped on a dime. What's a dime doing on the field? Why would you do that?

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2007.734 - 2028.178 Unknown

I was an experiment to see if it survived the game. And as I just told you, it did not. That is so ridiculous. Well, which part? I wanted to see what would happen. The dime is ridiculous, right? Yes. It's an experiment? You're just like, before the game, you're like, what kind of experiment can I do? It's the biggest event in the world.

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2028.238 - 2045.26 Unknown

I wanted to see with cameras pointed at it and all the wear and tear of a pro football game and everything else. No, see, that could get, see, it's the nuance. The devil's in the details, Zazz. A quarter is big. A guy's cleat might slip on that. A dime, come on.

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2045.28 - 2047.984 Stugotz

Oh, so you felt like you were looking out for safety.

2048.69 - 2063.24 Unknown

That's right. That's right. And I did it around the 10. So it wouldn't impact like a kicker. It wouldn't be at a pivotal swing of the leg. You know, like I didn't drop it around like the 30, 35. No, no. It's like more like the 10 outside the hash kind of vibe.

2063.26 - 2094.863 Stugotz

Speaking of what I have jumped in and helped out the way Trista did, she was very, very brave. I remember it was during Radio Row, Super Bowl week back in 2020. Super Bowl was here, and you guys, your show was on one end of, your set was on one end of Radio Row. My show, I was back when I did the show with Amber Wilson, and our show was at the other end of the convention center.

2094.843 - 2105.378 Stugotz

And when I got done, when we got done with our show, we came over to visit you guys. And it was like seconds after, was it Kamaru Usman and Jorge Masvidal?

2106.94 - 2108.482 Unknown

They had like a little issue there. I remember that.

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