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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Would You Wather? (feat. Amin Elhassan & Teck From Real World: Hawaii)

26 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 8.123 Dan Le Batard

This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz Podcast.

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8.143 - 28.553 Mike Ryan

Empirically, this is the most improbable Super Bowl matchup there has ever been, correct? There have never been two teams at worse than 60 to 1 odds to start a season playing in a Super Bowl. The Pats were 80 to 1 before the season started. Seattle was 60 to 1 before the season started.

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28.533 - 44.852 Mike Ryan

I still don't trust the Patriots, their schedule, getting to play the Dolphins, the Jets, and the minor league division of Carolina and Tampa Bay and the Saints. That is a rare path to the Super Bowl where you're in the Super Bowl and you haven't played anybody.

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44.873 - 52.001 Mike Ryan

Or you've played teams that you were lucky to play against because you're going to Denver and you're playing a quarterback who does what Stidham did on that play.

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Chapter 2: What improbable Super Bowl matchup is being discussed?

52.081 - 57.848 Stugatz

And there's a chance that they go to the Super Bowl and then Sam Darnold turns into a pumpkin again and they go throughout the Super Bowl playing nobody.

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57.828 - 67.315 Zach Gelb

But we should have known that the Seahawks were going to make it because this is the third straight time that when a new pope was elected, the Seahawks went to the Super Bowl as a number one seed.

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67.413 - 74.179 Amin Elhassan

I mean, the first Super Bowl that the Patriots won, Patriots-Rams, was crazy unlikely as well.

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74.379 - 98.341 Mike Ryan

It was crazy unlikely, but that was the greatest show on turf. Once we saw that season play out, we didn't question Kurt Warner the entirety of the season the way we've been questioning Sam Darnold. I don't think we can say that Sam Darnold's going to turn into a pumpkin again. I don't think that that's a reasonable expectation. two years.

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98.361 - 105.487 Amin Elhassan

And he was, what, the number three overall pick in the draft? Literally, this is what he's supposed to be. Right? Right. Just took him a decade to do it.

106.108 - 127.407 Mike Ryan

And five teams. Amin El-Hassan is there and he is ready to get to his weekend observations. I also want to talk to him about an assortment of things going on in basketball because the Giannis stuff is really interesting. I just don't understand how the Bucs are that bad with Giannis on their team. It doesn't make any sense to me. The team around them sucks.

127.387 - 147.705 Mike Ryan

Yeah, but still, like, I mean, if you have Giannis throughout the course of history, if you have that player, you're not seven games under .500. You see where their coach is? Okay, we'll get to him in a second. Yeah, he did get me. He cornered me on that. Is Doc there? Is it too early on the West Coast for Doc to be there? Is that too much of a test?

148.225 - 155.171 Mike Ryan

What do you say, Doc Rivers, to what it is that Zaslow is saying where he got me? Because the Bucs have a bad coach.

155.551 - 177.816 Doc Rivers

Well, first of all, Glad to be on the show. Last I checked, I'm on the top 15 coaches of all time list, and Zazz is nowhere near the top 1,500 of radio hosts. Whoa. And he doesn't even rank as far as movie experts or lovers of football either, so I don't know what this guy's talking about.

Chapter 3: How does Amin Elhassan explain the Giannis situation in Milwaukee?

326.541 - 330.969 Mike Ryan

Time now for Amin's weekend observations. Do them all as Doc Rivers' punishment.

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331.79 - 340.065 Dan Le Batard

Absolutely not. It is time for Amin to share his game notes. No one in the media will tell you what happened better than my boy Amin.

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340.282 - 359.302 Doc Rivers

Weekend Observations is brought to you by Miller Lite. Legendary moments start with a Lite. You know what? I'll do that part in Doc's voice. Weekend Observations is brought to you by Miller Lite. Legendary moments start with a Lite. And it's never Blake's fault. Dan, the stage is set. The card has been finalized.

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359.462 - 386.246 Doc Rivers

And the last two teams that you gushed about and had celebrity correspondence for have been eliminated. Now we have the rematch that Mina Kimes, Marshawn Lynch, and the entire Pacific Northwest have been aching for. Don't need no checkdowns. Super Bowl LX. It's crazy to think that this was all made possible by a former Jets bust and Luke May's little brother. You guys remember Luke May? Big shot.

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386.927 - 416.481 Doc Rivers

Big man on campus. North Carolina? Luke May? That was the guy. Drake May? His little brother. Who's laughing now? Jared Stidham, not to be confused with Jason Statham as Dan did last week, turned back into a pumpkin at around 6 p.m. Eastern, the Lord's time zone. I love people complaining about the snow impacting the game as though it favored one side over the other. They both played in the snow.

417.942 - 420.265 Doc Rivers

Also, I wore a jacket yesterday.

Chapter 4: What insights does Amin provide about the Bucs' performance?

421.606 - 447.736 Doc Rivers

It was 68 degrees. Oh, chilly. You guys getting that cold front down there? We're going to get a little cold front on the weekend. It's going to be 50. Oh, nice. Hey, can we talk about how the Rams lost to a team that had Bart from How High Is Our Quarterback? That's the part where the picture comes up. Did you give them a picture to put up or are you just expecting?

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447.756 - 458.23 Doc Rivers

No, I guessed that they would read my mind, Dan, and know that, oh, he's probably going to mention Bart from How High. There it is. Oh, hey, good job. Is that not?

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458.45 - 463.857 Mike Ryan

Yeah, it looks pretty good. The plume of hair in the front is something they both do well.

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463.917 - 464.938 Doc Rivers

How high is the jaw?

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465.579 - 466.34 Mike Ryan

The jaw also.

467.442 - 478.508 Doc Rivers

Puka and JSN. A battle for the ages. Puka and JSN. Two names that make white liberals uncomfortable for very different reasons.

480.496 - 486.021 Mike Ryan

Is the nickname JSN because people are afraid of saying his last name?

486.101 - 493.648 Amin Elhassan

He's got a long name. Aaron Andrews postgame yesterday called him Jackson SN. I didn't see that. For real?

497.212 - 499.594 Mike Ryan

It's so strange to be scared.

Chapter 5: Which football movies are considered the best by the guests?

526.841 - 548.482 Doc Rivers

Do you remember when everyone was gushing over Tony Romo? Pepperidge Farm remembers. Oh, you guys couldn't get enough Tony Romo. Oh, he's so smart. Oh, how did he know what play was? Oh, Tony Romo's the best. Oh, where have you been all my life, Tony? Now, everyone's like, oh, Tony Romo sucks. Tom Brady, he's awesome. Give it a couple of years.

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548.682 - 549.763 Amin Elhassan

WrestleMania 13, Mike.

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551.345 - 561.785 Doc Rivers

You'll hate him too. Is Fernando Mendoza's brother any good? I'm asking. I need to know. He runs. Nobody knows.

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562.126 - 575.091 Mike Ryan

He runs. I mean, he entered the portal after his brother did something that can't be eclipsed. I have no idea if he wants to get out of his brother's shadow or he's no good. I do know that there are thousands of people in the portal who will never play again.

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575.792 - 601.921 Doc Rivers

Word is he's going to Georgia Tech, so that's why I'm... That's a good spot for him. Cinephobe episode 297. National Lampoon's Van Wilder. Starring Ryan Reynolds, Tara Reid, Cal Penn, Aaron Paul, Bud from The Cosby Show, and Tech from Real World Hawaii. That movie was based off the real-life exploits of comedian Bert Kreischer. Yeah, Tech from Real World Hawaii. You guys remember him? Tag money.

601.981 - 606.707 Doc Rivers

Of course. Yeah. Ruthie was my favorite on Real World Hawaii.

606.747 - 611.013 Stugatz

Ruthie was Tupac. Do you remember those rumors? The internet. Special.

611.053 - 624.831 Doc Rivers

She was. Since its inception. All she needed was just a little Van Damme. There was a whole thing. Cal Penn took the role of a stereotypical Indian because he learned if he didn't, the role was going to go to a white actor in brownface.

Chapter 6: What are the latest updates on the Rams' season performance?

626.313 - 653.788 Doc Rivers

Fun fact, Dan. They hired him a dialect coach to perfect the Indian accent. The dialect coach was a white woman. Cal Penn speaks Gujarati. She does not. Imagine that. Send a photo wherever you get podcasts. You guys remember when everyone was gushing over the Oklahoma City Thunder? Oh, my God, it's the greatest team ever. They're better than the Warriors were. They won 73 games.

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654.19 - 658.58 Mike Ryan

Pepperidge Farm remembers. They lost to Toronto last night. Zaz said they were going to win 80.

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659.401 - 667.98 Doc Rivers

Yeah. Yeah. You guys see that when Lou Dort tried to block Sandro Mamou-Kelishvili and he landed on him? It was nuts.

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669.277 - 690.019 Doc Rivers

no it's not got it yeah got that the first tried to flex by the way on mamu's full name i didn't like that no no if i said mamu i was worried that dan was gonna say man who's playing basketball again and like no oh manu from uh from what are you highlight or whatever like no not that one unless i said full name try the audience i'm trying to do it for the audience

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690.083 - 702.704 Doc Rivers

Can we talk about how the Rams lost to a team that had Johnny Worthington III from Monsters University as their quarterback? There it is. Video.

703.084 - 710.096 Mike Ryan

There it is. Tell me that jaw isn't his. It's the tuft of hair. Again, you're doing it with the tuft of hair instead of the jaw.

710.897 - 720.49 Doc Rivers

It's the jaw. Zaz thinks Mike McDonald has a little D. When asked about it, McDonald's Scott has said, what a fool believes.

723.394 - 748.87 Mike Ryan

What a fool believes. I think Mike McDonald is right here. I think I haven't heard Mike's Mike McDonald in a long time. I've been workshopping. Be ready next week. Oh, really? Perhaps a new bit where I'll keep forgetting. This is very exciting. And the idea that we're going to break out Mike McDonald again.

755.058 - 782.114 Doc Rivers

Ice storm causes game postponement. Ah, shit. I misread that. My bad. I should say ice storm troopers cause game postponement. Let it sit. Can we talk about how the Rams lost to a team that had a human Lego as their quarterback? Tell me that's not him.

Chapter 7: How does the discussion shift to the Patriots' Super Bowl chances?

1094.784 - 1100.151 Mike Ryan

Something legitimately funny can't be funny because we're scared our ginger's going to do something racist by accident.

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1100.171 - 1103.074 Zach Gelb

Carry the hell on, Dan. Rachel.

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1103.094 - 1105.697 Doc Rivers

Dan, the line is where we feel alive, though.

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1106.738 - 1110.122 Dan Le Batard

This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stukats.

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1117.088 - 1142.309 Doc Rivers

I watched the Mel Brooks documentary of my dad yesterday. Judd Apatow makes good documentaries. I assume that that's excellent. It's excellent. It's excellent because Mel Brooks has an uncommon amount of archival footage. Throughout history, going back to him working with Sid Caesar. And it reminded me a lot of, for different reasons, but in that way, of the Motown documentary.

1142.329 - 1162.924 Doc Rivers

I don't know if you ever saw that one, Hitsville. It's incredible. It's on Paramount Plus, I think. But what made it so great was it had archival footage of everything, including the Jackson 5 documentary. audition they had that in in in the hitsville documentary but the mel brooks one was was incredible and they talk a lot about

1163.09 - 1192.641 Doc Rivers

him walking the line uh in terms of comedy in terms of being kind of subversive particularly with blazing saddles they you know they asked whether it could be made today it's like i don't even think it could be made back then it's just because mel brooks was a genius and mel brooks had a writer's room that had obviously richard pryor in there and richard pryor was the one that was pushing for some of the language because he said mel people don't know and you need to you have the opportunity to let

1192.823 - 1215.034 Doc Rivers

mainstream America know, hey, yeah, people are saying the N-word left and right. Like, these kind of racist things that are being said in the movie for fun and for laughs are also kind of a reflection of what society is. And so, Dan, I think you'd really enjoy it. It's an incredible two-part documentary, and I had a lot of fun, and my dad was a huge Mel Brooks fan.

1215.014 - 1232.797 Mike Ryan

I love the book. The book is exhaustive. It's a thick book, but he tells the story, among others, of watching Sid Caesar on the original television. Mel Brooks is so old that he was there for the advent of the first television.

Chapter 8: What are the implications of Giannis's injury on trade talks?

1561.85 - 1580.42 Doc Rivers

Not one bit. Anyone who's in the market for Giannis Antetokounmpo is in the market for Giannis Antetokounmpo. They don't care about him missing the next four to six weeks. They are there for it. And whether that's the Miami Heat, the New York Knicks, the Toronto Raptors are another one that's been listed. They're all... They're ready to go.

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1580.461 - 1595.822 Doc Rivers

What's holding it all up is Milwaukee apparently is still saying, we don't know, or let's see if we can make a deal here around the periphery. Maybe we could turn Kyle Kuzma into something. And they're still playing this game of chicken where they're like, we don't want to trade him. And Giannis is like, I don't want to ask to get traded.

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1596.183 - 1600.729 Doc Rivers

So we're just going to pretend that this thing is going to work somehow.

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1600.709 - 1622.633 Mike Ryan

I have not looked recently. They were 18-25 and then they lost against Denver at home. It doesn't even have Jokic. They're truly terrible. I know that Kyle Kuzma and Miles Turner is not good roster construction. But if I told you before the season, if I put Giannis on any team in the sport, am I going to have more than 18 victories at this point in the season? Wouldn't you have said yes?

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1622.613 - 1645.06 Doc Rivers

Yeah, if you said they had 18 victories, the first thing I'd ask is, well, is Giannis healthy? And he hasn't been healthy, right? He has missed games. I think he's only played 30 games this year. And then many of those games have occurred with a minutes restriction. So those two things do inform a little better why the record is as bad as it is.

1645.38 - 1659.583 Doc Rivers

But it's still worse than what we would believe, even under those circumstances. But Dan, do you remember Charles Barkley in Philadelphia? Like, how could he be that great and that team be that bad? Man, it's a team sport. It doesn't matter how good a player is.

1659.663 - 1666.677 Doc Rivers

At the end of the day, you have to have competent infrastructure, and that includes teammates, and that includes coaching, and that includes everything.

1666.977 - 1683.433 Amin Elhassan

I mean, teams like Miami are going to just put all their chips to the center of the table and say, here, take whatever you want in order to acquire Giannis. But he's going to be 32 this year. He's dealing with a calf injury now. He's been kind of injury riddled. Like, should any teams kind of be worried about that?

1683.802 - 1703.329 Doc Rivers

Yeah, he has a history of being durable. He's going through some stuff right now. It happens. Nobody's perfect. I mean, Jokic has been a durable guy, and now he's been out for a considerable amount of time with an injury. So I don't put him in the same class as when we were talking a couple weeks ago about Ja and Anthony Davis and those guys.

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