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Chapter 1: What is the story behind tequila?
Now's a good time to remember where tequila's story truly began. In 1795, Cuervo invented tequila. Cuervo. What are you doing here?
Cuervo. Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up.
Cuervo.
Cuervo.
I'm going to take off the table, Stugatz, the bad beat at the end of the night, the terrible gambling bad beat that costs you a lot of money. I'm going to take that off the table as one of the options in the question I'm asking you guys. Okay. All of sports...
basketball, soccer, football, whatever sport you wish to choose, the ending of a game that's going to have you lose sleep most likely that night is blank anywhere in sports. Because I think the hockey overtime goal that kills you on the road is something that makes sports fans sleep less than anything except maybe like a buzzer beater.
I think a buzzer beater for me, but especially when you're up 3-1 in that game.
Well, but just the fear in overtime, okay, that the game can just end and exactly that way because that right there last night is why that's the only team I fear if I'm the Panthers because they can do that to you when you're up 3-1 and no one else can do that to you. There's not another team in the sport. No one else has. There's not another team in the sport that can do that.
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Chapter 2: What are the most painful ways to lose in sports?
To them, have Sam Bennett talking after the game about, usually we don't let up, but we let up. No, you didn't let up. It's they shot a bunch of times because they're really good. You were gassed and you had a power play and you can't allow a power play in overtime against that team. You're describing letting up.
Them getting gassed. Yeah, it was uncharacteristic, but to your point, I think that was the first Panther loss of the postseason, of the last few postseasons, really, where I'm like, yeah, we could maintain possession a little bit more. We were a little sloppy with the puck in our own end, but...
we got beat like this wasn't like the toronto series or when we effed around with carolina playing with our food where i'm like yeah we'll tighten that up we know what's wrong we made some lazy passes in the neutral zone and we got beat that's a really one of the first times a long time that you can say that about a postseason panther run where the other team was better than you on the night that was just a great game though fantastic i think i'm like i have the the prism of we won the championship last year so you have a cup in your
pocket i had all the fear i had all the fear last night but i was able to kind of step back and just be like holy shit overtime game one like this is going to be an excellent series thank god it wasn't carolina dallas can you imagine right who who in their right minds like man you know what i wish i saw right now jamie ben that would really do it for me really makes game two a must win it really does duke it really does yeah from your lips my man
Can you guys give me another sport that you think... Because the way the Bills lost to the Chiefs were like a drop or we could have gotten to that. That was a pretty brutal way for the Bills to lose. A controversial call, a
Yes, the bowl still wakes me up at night. A bad error in baseball. I know people don't care about baseball, but the Buckner situation, bottom of the ninth, bad error. That's a bad one. Game six of the World Series, though.
It takes that.
But just losing on an error. Like David Freeze, the Rangers are an out away from, a strike away from a World Series twice in a game, and then they end up not winning the World Series at all. But your point's taken, Dan. That sucked. Not great, but it was game one, and that's what Panthers in seven can look like.
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Chapter 3: How do the Panthers fare in the Stanley Cup finals?
Everybody's rooting against the Panthers, and I will tell you I had a thought that I haven't had until now last night because I am scared of what Edmonton has become. My thought was, man, it would suck and feel like underachievement if the last three years only ended in one title with as good as this team is. Like, it would hurt to have only one title in three years.
But I'm telling you, I'm not saying it has to be like this, but if you told me what would it look like to recreate my fears in a way that would make me think that the Panthers are not going to be able to overcome this. It would look like last night. It's McDavid to Dreisaitl at the end, and the reminder, oh, Dreisaitl didn't do shit in that series last year.
This is the Dan Levitard Show with the Stugatz Podcast.
Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at Levitard Show. Given his name... Shouldn't Dalton Kincaid be better at football, given just his name? I was thinking about great names, Stugatz, because Dreisaitl, we're going to try and fix that echo. Is everyone getting that echo, or am I the only one getting that echo? Dreisaitl is a pretty perfect name.
for a hockey player, and I wanted to ask all of you to give me what you believe to be the most perfect name in the history of hockey players. Oh, wow. Do you want to play this game? I believe it's an eternal game. Men of our age can play at any time. It can break out anywhere you are and be fun for the whole family.
I've been waiting for this game and this show my entire life. I have five. I mean, how about that?
You have five? Yes.
Five perfect names. Well, five cool hockey names is what I have.
Okay, so you're claiming, because I think I have one that will be the winner.
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Chapter 4: What makes Connor McDavid the best player in hockey?
What a Ziggy Palphine. Billy, what? What do you guys have?
What do you guys... I mean, there's no better name than Jeff Bukabum.
I disagree. What if I counter your Bukabum with Ray Joe Rutzelainen?
Oh, wow. A Rutzelainen. I'm giving the confidence behind that one. I feel pretty good about Jeff Bukabum.
You want to spell? You want to try to... I don't know how to spell Ray Joe. Ray Joe Rutzelainen. Careful.
That's the tough part of the name to spell? It was Jeremy's birthday yesterday. You be damn careful. Yeah. No, Jeff Boogaboom is a name. It's a good one.
How about Nikolai Habibulin? Oh, wow. The Boolean Wall? Wow. That's a great name.
It's a good name.
It's a great name. It's a good hand. It's a great name.
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Chapter 5: How do players cope with the pressure of the finals?
Zoli Zalapsky.
Oh my God. Wow. Look how pleased Roy is with himself. As he should, I mean.
If we're playing fun owner names to say, I nominate Tillman for Tita.
Yeah.
Oh, that's a good one.
It's just owners. You're just doing it.
Well, that's what we were doing yesterday with Ishbia. So I want to play that game. How about Garth Butcher? Pretty good name. The Butcher. They actually called him the Garth.
That's weird. That game last night, when I tell you guys, and I know you've been tired of this analysis of fearing hockey throughout. the last two playoffs because it can be so random, but it hasn't been that random this year. The two best teams have buzzsawed through the playoffs and they've gotten to face each other. And that result, Roy, is exactly what I was afraid of in all of the ways.
The Panthers, keep in mind. So they get the goals from Bennett and Marchand, and it makes them a team that now has 50 road playoff goals. That hasn't happened since the 93 Kings, okay? That team had Gretzky on it.
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Chapter 6: What are the best hockey player names?
I know. That team had Yari Curry on it. That team had McSorley on it. That team was basic. the champion Edmonton Oilers scoring on the road in 1993 the Panthers get the two road goals go up 3-1 they had been under Paul Maurice 18-0 when they've got the lead at the start of the third period they've been 31-0 when they've got the lead after the first or second period
and what happened to them is 46 shots and they got those two guys and i'm telling you there hasn't been a feeling in edmonton since they had the great one that felt as good as mcday as um dry sidle scoring that goal the smoke blowing in the the horn going off and he spreads his arms in the photo behind me that's going to be a classic photo
in edmonton of him scoring that goal and that goal was beautiful and the panthers were done like they it's a dumb it's you can't allow that power play and they were going to lose anyway because they had no legs and and they were fried and i'm not used to it because they're the boa constrictor in the third they they crush everybody in the third they're not the ones who get tired
Yeah, they looked absolutely exhausted. The breakouts were basically flipping the puck in the air like what they did against Carolina. And when he actually tried to get into Edmonton's own, it was a dump in and they couldn't support their own four check. It just looked like the legs weren't under them at all.
I feel like it's a credit to the Panthers, though, how much they were in that game last night. That thing felt from the beginning like this could be bad. This could be a 5-1 Edmonton win. Because they scored in the first two minutes? They got outplayed. Outside of a three-minute stretch, that first period was dominated by Edmonton. We're up after that first period. We dominate the second period.
The third period was not good. But I take away from that, yes, Edmonton is better, but we are too. I feel good about the Panthers after that game. That's a bad loss, man.
They're 18-0 under Paul Maurice when they lead after two periods.
It's a bad loss. That's not a bad loss, dude. That is a tough game. That is a great team they're playing on the road. Chris, it's game one, Stanley Cup Finals. You're up 3-1. Yes, we lost. They didn't play well in that third period. Yes, I'll give you that, but I'm not going to sit here and say this is a 21-period series.
Game seven. With the context of they don't blow two goal leads, it hurts. But that was the deserved result. Edmonton was better on the night. Ron Tugnut.
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Chapter 7: What insights do the hosts share about the Panthers' performance?
Yeah, but we can't play this game, though. I was with Panther fans last night, and they start doing the thing. Why is our fourth? It's like, this fourth line has been carrying us this entire playoffs. They have one bad game, and you're going to be like, get this fourth line. No, this is why we're so good. We play our four lines, and they've played well.
Yes, that's a bad penalty, but I'm not going to punt on Nosek after one bad play.
Paul Maurice was very quick in the postgame to highlight, we're not in this position. We're down two goals against Toronto in game three. We go to overtime. That fourth line saved our bacon. Noshik was a huge part about that comeback and eventual series win. Yeah, it was an unfortunate penalty. You knew they would make you pay for it, but whatever. Those are the breaks.
Thankfully, they got to win three more games.
So when you guys say good loss or bad loss, I think it's a crushing loss. And it's because it's the first time in this postseason where a champion can look across the ice and be like, oh shit, they might be better. It hasn't happened. They haven't had any reason to think that through everything they've been doing.
But when you're the best at something, and in game one, they erase that because they're the one team in the sport that can. 3-1 doesn't matter against them.
That's a fine. I'm not certain it was my phone. Then why are you holding it? I know, but how do you know my phone is the one that buzzed? I don't know. I always have it on silent. It was me.
Anyway, the Panthers, obviously, they gave up that early goal in the first period, but they quickly erased that. So I'm not really worried about them going into game two. They're going to adjust, and they're going to play better.
Okay, you say that, but you also would acknowledge that what I'm saying is something that is totally reasonable.
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Chapter 8: What is the significance of the Panthers' playoff history?
Let me explain something here, Dan. They're not giving you what you want. What you want is tears. They're giving you confidence.
I'm not giving confidence. Like, he literally just sold my take. Yeah, they might be better. And if that's how this ends, I guess, yeah, shit. We ran into the player of his generation that is peaking at 28 years old and doing all the things. And Greg Cody should shut his mouth when it comes to Connor McDavid's defense. He showed you that was the best offensive forward. McSelkie on the ice.
He saved several plays, several chances for Edmonton. I don't understand why there's this notion because maybe he's not winning the Selkie Award and people aren't talking about it because he's a demigod offensively. But there is no reason for Connor McDavid to not be one of, if not the best defensive forwards in the league. He has all the tools. He has the instincts.
He has the speed to make up for mistakes. He showed you why. He was much better defensively than Dreisaitl, who's awesome this year. He was much better than Barkov. who's an all-timer defensively. He was incredible last night.
What do you guys yell whenever McDavid gets the puck around mid-ice and he's getting going? I'm always like, cut him off! It's so hard to do that.
Just me with a beer in my hand.
Cut him off! Like, as if that's an easy thing to do.
That's right. It's good coaching. It's good advice. Stop him!
Be faster than the fastest man alive. That's me every time. He gets the puck. He gets going with the speed. I'm like, cut him off!
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