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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Local Hour: The Half Mental Health Day

12 Nov 2025

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Chapter 1: What are the current vibes around the Miami Heat and Golden State Warriors?

1.28 - 10.498 Jeremy Tache

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11.27 - 23.325 Jeremy Tache

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23.606 - 39.292 Jeremy Tache

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39.332 - 48.157 Jeremy Tache

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Me.

49.019 - 67.12 Jeremy Tache

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67.141 - 83.814 Chris Cody

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84.094 - 95.554 Stugotz

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Chapter 2: How does Jimmy Butler influence team dynamics in Miami?

540.86 - 553.516 Jeremy Tache

You thought that was what Andrew Wiggins was? That's not who he is. He must be thinking of a different one. There is another Wiggins. Yeah, there is another. That one. Aaron Wiggins in Oklahoma City, and he won a championship too, so maybe. Maybe.

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554.017 - 573.042 Jeremy Tache

I thought Andrew Wiggins was coming here to be a number one scorer and grow into the role the way Heat players do when they get somewhere, come from somewhere as underachievers. Yes, I believed. Am I an idiot for believing that that's why they traded for him and how they traded for him? That may have been why they traded for him last year, but I think they quickly realized –

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573.022 - 592.054 Jeremy Tache

Andrew Wiggins as your top scoring option is awful. And this year, when Andrew Wiggins is like your fourth or fifth option, I like that guy. That's not why they traded for Andrew Wiggins. All right, so here's Andrew Wiggins. So you can compare vibes between locker rooms here. We're going to go back and forth. Here's Andrew Wiggins talking about the Heats locker room.

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592.074 - 617.985 Norman Powell

You know, even though having some guys out, you know, we're still able to do what we're doing because of the system we're in. And the guys are all just stepping up and, you know, doing it all collectively. You know, the coaches are doing a great job getting us in position to – So we're already going to start with the culture talk again, right?

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618.146 - 636.518 Jeremy Tache

Hard place to win. Right now, it's an impossible place to win. Undefeated at home. That's an impossible place to win. I want to get to tonight's game against the Cavs. What the Cavs are doing is offensive. This part of basketball is offensive. They've got a home-and-home that's not even at their home. Second leg of home-and-home. And they're not playing their key players.

636.578 - 651.961 Jeremy Tache

And Donovan Mitchell's in Louisville last night. And all of that is just not great that nobody's respecting the regular season that way. The Cavs know they're good. They know they're going to make the playoffs. Easy as you can make it. It's four days in Miami. You don't have to fly anywhere. You can just play two games in Miami.

652.002 - 671.528 Jeremy Tache

There's no reason for Donovan Mitchell to sit out this game when he's flying to Louisville. It's not a back-to-back. I mean, he wants to watch his alma mater play. Come on, guys. What is this stick-in-the-mud stuff you guys are doing? He'll be back. Here's the entire list of people that are apparently out for Cleveland. I didn't even know this. Darius Garland, Donovan Mitchell.

671.948 - 695.233 Jeremy Tache

Donovan Mitchell's out for rest. Oh, God. Evan Mobley, out for rest. Max Strews, injured with a foot injury. Jalen Tyson, Larry Nance Jr. Why are people out for rest when the NBA has done this thing that we typically haven't seen in its history where it's back to like the 1940s of travel. We're in town. We're going to treat it like a baseball series. Yeah.

695.213 - 701.06 Jeremy Tache

So we're going to mitigate the travel issues. So you don't actually have to be out due to rest because you're not traveling.

Chapter 3: What challenges is Andrew Wiggins facing in Golden State?

1389.94 - 1407.696 Draymond Green

But you have to make those personal agenda work in the team confines. And if it doesn't work, then you kind of got to get rid of your agenda. Or eventually the agenda is the cause of someone getting rid of you.

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1409.633 - 1432.845 Jeremy Tache

This is actually a very intelligent quote about the dynamics of basketball and the NBA in particular. Basketball is five people trying to do their own thing, but trying to do it within the framework of we do it together as a team. And this particular person, say what you will about him selfishly, does all of the things no one else wants to do on a basketball court.

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1432.865 - 1456.091 Jeremy Tache

So no matter what you think of Draymond Green, is speaking from a position of authority of what it is it takes to be a good teammate when you are someone like him who once scored 32 points in a Game 7 of the Finals? Yeah, I think Draymond, more than any player that has problems, they always talk about, you know, like, oh, he has a temper issue, whatever. He always plays the right way.

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1456.492 - 1477.363 Jeremy Tache

Like, his basketball decision-making, he doesn't take dumb shots. He doesn't, like, make wild passes for the most part. He's pretty... at keeping his temper separate from his basketball decision-making. What he's talking about there is absolutely correct. Everybody in the NBA has an agenda. No one's out here walking out here like, oh, I just want selflessness.

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1477.783 - 1492.982 Jeremy Tache

Everyone's got some sort of goal, but the idea is how do we make it all work within the same framework? It's not communism, right, where we're just, everyone is an equal robot, but it's also not a free-for-all kind of laissez-faire free market economy where everyone's just doing whatever the hell they want.

1492.962 - 1515.697 Jeremy Tache

there is a level of kind of like capitalistic tendencies within a socialist framework when you talk about basketball. And so what he's saying there is sometimes you wanna do things And they help us win, and sometimes you want to do things, and these things detract from our winning. And the idea is to minimize that and maximize the other side. He is an authority here, correct?

1516.038 - 1533.667 Jeremy Tache

Like, he's viewed as a bad messenger because he's got a temper problem, but he's an authority. They've won championships with him as the furnace and fuel of play basketball correctly. And... this is going to be a bad time, keeping people accountable to that, holding people accountable to that, right? Because that's really what this is about, right?

1533.687 - 1554.856 Jeremy Tache

When they're talking, they're talking, first of all, we know these guys, they're not passive aggressive people. So I'm pretty sure whoever they're talking about, it's not like, what, me? Like, they know already. Jeremy's looking at you sideways. Do you think that Jimmy is passive aggressive? I mean, did you witness the last year? I think he's aggressive-aggressive.

1554.936 - 1577.075 Jeremy Tache

Jeremy, when Jimmy doesn't like somebody, does he keep it to himself? He doesn't keep it to himself, to them. So that's fair that he wouldn't be passive-aggressive within the locker room. But it's what the... What the words are in front of the media certainly are to specifically influence things, you could argue, to an agenda. Certainly, certainly.

Chapter 4: Why is the Heat's team chemistry considered exceptional this season?

1783.729 - 1798.448 Jeremy Tache

I will say, though, I think he's right in the people that he's identifying. in terms of people that aren't necessarily doing the things necessary to help the team, even though his own actions, especially when they meet real adversity, kind of also work against the team's interest.

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1798.488 - 1815.337 Jeremy Tache

Right, so the idea is like, yes, he's never misidentifying the guy who's not pulling their weight, but how do you get them to pull their weight? Do you go off on them and then just ignore them for the rest of time? That's not an effective strategy. You're trying to build them up to get to that place.

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1815.598 - 1827.523 Jeremy Tache

I think Carl Anthony Towns is an example of what he was in Minnesota and what he is now has grown. Players grow. Players change. And Jimmy seems to have a way of kind of like... You're either here or there, and once you're on one side or the other, that's it.

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1827.543 - 1844.453 Jeremy Tache

Are you guys with me on the idea, though, that we really celebrated 35-year-old Jimmy Butler from a different time, lumberjack guy, when he was undressing 20-year-old Cat, who was not yet a grown adult because he came out of Kentucky as a freshman. Undressing isn't that bad. No, you understand what I'm saying, though.

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1844.533 - 1868.878 Jeremy Tache

Jimmy Butler, with 13 years of difference, is going to have what connection point with whatever Carl Anthony Towns is at that size being the best shooter from the perimeter he's ever seen while Jimmy's getting 16 free throws a game? Look, like Jeremy said... I'm not saying it's bad, right? Especially in the context of Golden State, Draymond and any of those guys, when they do it, it's real.

1869.258 - 1890.302 Jeremy Tache

One of my favorite stories, I don't even remember if this was public or not, but when the kid in Philadelphia, now I'm drawing a blank. Maxie? McCain? No, the one that was in Golden State, Oubre. When Kelly Oubre was in Golden State and Clay was starting to come back and they were talking about, okay, so Kelly, you're going to come off the bench. And Kelly started pounding. I'm a starter.

1890.543 - 1913.7 Jeremy Tache

And I think it was Clay that went off. Someone went off on him in the locker room. Hey, man, you know what this place is? Do you know what we do here? Who are you to say I'm not coming off the bench? Andre Iguodala. who was an all-star, came off the bench for us. Who the hell are you? That's the type of locker room they are. They don't suffer the kind of the immaturities of fools.

1914.141 - 1935.816 Jeremy Tache

They will let you know immediately. And so what they're doing here, I'm not even certain, I'm not saying they're wrong. I'm not holding them accountable. The thing is, the only reason why we're talking about it here and why it's relevant to us is because that part of Jimmy, which can be useful at times but other times destructive,

1935.796 - 1964.537 Jeremy Tache

was at the end of the time here just destructive right it was no longer useful i think that the valid criticism of jimmy is when he does identify that guy he does very little actually mend the fences and it doesn't seem like there's really a path for the person that he's isolated in that way to work themselves back into the good graces and then the juxtaposition of why we're talking about it specifically now is when you hear wiggins and norm powell and all these guys talk and it's like oh this is this feels amazing but

Chapter 5: What are the implications of load management in the NBA?

2223.448 - 2237.863 Andrew Wiggins

But we're cheering everybody on. We're playing super hard. We're picking each other up. And we're believing in it. We're believing in the system. We're believing in one another. And it shows when a game like this, when you need tough-minded resilience, physicality, and belief, And execution, and we're able to do that down the stretch.

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2237.883 - 2246.053 Jeremy Tache

I can't believe we're going to get more annoying as a heat show. That grating, like Jeremy arriving with the smile. I can hear the smile on his face.

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2246.073 - 2247.656 Chris Cody

You can hear it. It's like Pablo. You can hear the smile.

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2247.676 - 2253.123 Jeremy Tache

You can hear the smile talking. He's happier than Norman Powell is. He's good on television. Stop going at Jeremy.

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2253.283 - 2259.771 Amin Elhassan

There's a reason why he's won an Emmy. And I would say that this first segment of the show has been more national in scope.

2261.273 - 2263.496 Jeremy Tache

He said two Emmys in the background.

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Wow.

2264.318 - 2268.289 Chris Cody

And this is not just on the broadcast. You can hear. This is to the arena.

2268.329 - 2279.34 Jeremy Tache

What does it say about this team that you get different contributions in different moments every single game? Great question. Hard hitting. It's a good question.

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