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PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard
Fri, 18 Apr 2025
Mina Kimes’s Celebrity Jeopardy! semi-final featured a Guardian of the Galaxy from the Marvel Cinematic Universe and a tech millionaire podcaster. How did Mina do? The answer: NOT a Daily Double. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who are the participants in Mina Kimes’s Celebrity Jeopardy! semi-final?
What I'm going to do is take us on a ride.
A ride.
A ride into a studio, a hallowed studio. And on the stage, Dan, is... an actor from the Marvel Cinematic Universe named Sean Gunn, noted Guardian of the Galaxy, a dude who hosts, in my opinion, you know, a kind of odious podcast, All In, named David Friedberg, and our good friend, Mina Kimes.
Why was Mina shaking her head at All In? What happened there? A kind of odious podcast?
Oh, no, I was nodding in agreement. I'm also not a fan.
As far as celebrity goes on Jeopardy, the celebrities are not a high end of celebrities. Mina might be the most famous one here. How dare you? Hold on a second. Guardians of the Galaxy is a wonderful franchise. Great writing, great acting, not a lot of famous... people coming out of the Guardians of the Galaxy universe from behind the scenes, from small characters.
The other thing that's important to note is we're in the semis now, right? So a lot of the real, the most celebrity of the celebrities have been called at this point.
Okay, see, all right.
So now we're just, now let's say what this is. This is the bottom feeder at the last rung of cheap television where we go get people who call them celebrities and mean as a celebrity. But I don't know if those other two people are.
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Chapter 2: What challenges did Mina face with the Jeopardy! buzzer?
A boy in Maine sold Greenwood's Champion ear protectors after patenting this type of winter headgear in 1877. Mina. What are earmuffs? That's right. He's the inventor of the earmuffs.
Okay, I forgot that the first question in that montage was... about what team is in Tennessee. That maybe wasn't as impressive.
Well, no, but you know what? I want to look at her face again after that because I did think she found it funny how easy that question was, but you seemed happier with the other questions and the answers that you were getting right.
The emotion you're trying to identify is actually relief because I was like, thank God I didn't miss the football question because that was my worst nightmare going on this show is that there would be a football category and that I would lose the category, thus giving ammunition to my haters for decades.
Good to play that game with great, great fear. Yes. Mina Kimes, that's right. Mina Kimes, who has done now 70 mock drafts and wants to get every one of the picks right because she's competitive. Who can... is afraid that the internet is going to mock her because a Jeopardy question she gets wrong about the Titans.
If you're to talk about the most essential skill for Mina as a Jeopardy draft prospect, the thing that I think is so important that becomes very clear in this episode, in the semifinal, is the Daily Double.
Oh, God. This is the part that I don't want to watch. This is the thing that haunted me. I can't even think myself to watch this.
We gotta walk through it. We gotta walk through it. There's a build here. Because Mina, at this point in the story, has $9,700. That's great. She's in control. But this thing, which was a strength in Mina's first Celebrity Jeopardy! win, which got her to the semifinal, becomes very relevant.
Thinking about the Roman Empire for 600.
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Chapter 3: How did Mina’s competitiveness affect her Jeopardy! performance?
And then when I was in that situation, I panicked like a word I can't say.
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You are rooting as a competitive person to get the Daily Double, correct? Yes, you want. I was hunting. We were all, so this is another thing.
In the first game, I was hunting for them. In the second game, we all were. So, you know, everybody's kind of playing in a different way.
So you're not scared of it in any way. No, you want the Daily Double. But why did you get scared when you got the Daily Double?
Because I'm a loser. I don't know.
But what happened? I'm asking you, take me through the thinking process of, so you're leading and you're afraid that you're going to make a bet that does such bad math that you're so nervous.
Yes, I was nervous I was going to blow my lead. I was like, I'm in control of this shit. I've been dominating the category.
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Chapter 4: What was the impact of the Daily Double on Mina’s game strategy?
What is a whale?
I was convinced my thing was broken at that point. I'm losing it. The questions are so easy. The scores.
They're all so easy. The scores, Dan. Sean Gunn, $20,500. Mina Kimes, a very respectable $16,400. Dave Friedberg, a distant third, $8,400. Not really a factor is where we are at this point in the story.
I can't believe how human this is, Mina. You're sitting here savaging yourself about how idiotic this is. And who doesn't understand, even though you're crushing it, a lack of confidence in yourself, even after all of these easy questions, because you really...
Because... You're still on the Daily Doubles, you're talking.
Yeah, well, I'm talking... What I'm talking about is the pressure of the moment making you make smaller bets when the biggest bets would have been on yourself. And it's just so interesting to not have the confidence in that moment because, see, I...
I think I would be afraid to do all of this in front of people, vulnerably allowing them to examine whether or not you're quote unquote smart enough or fast enough by testing your intelligence on television. I don't think I'd want to do that. It doesn't seem like it would be, it seems like it would be pressurized even for charity.
So to get in that situation, be plagued by it, however nervous you were before it, if you were indeed nervous, get to the moment, be crushing it, and then not have confidence when you have a moment to slow down and think.
It wasn't like a lack of confidence. I'll be straight up with you guys. I don't watch Jeopardy. I'm not a Jeopardy person. So I did a little bit of research into betting strategy, which comes up at the end. I did not ask anyone about Daily Doubles. And I do think if I had asked someone, a Jeopardy person, they would have explained to me, you should bet a lot.
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Chapter 5: How does Mina reflect on her Daily Double betting decisions?
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Can you imagine Dan Campbell after a loss, fourth down decision?
I have a one-year-old. I think he would probably have lost in Celebrity Jeopardy.
She is so mad right now, Pablo.
And I don't know whether she's mad at you or me or herself. I don't even know what those rankings would be.
Well, I was mad at myself, but I've transitioned away from being mad at myself to being annoyed by this line of questioning.
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Chapter 6: What are the key moments and questions from Mina’s Jeopardy! run?
The show that said it's okay if you miss Social Security payments was like, this guy should be...
So I was... Okay, now I'm so glad. See, this actually is a great window into my mind here. Because watching it, yes, at the moment I was devastated and I'm so mad at myself for not... Because I know geography. I know history. I was just like, my brain was whatever. But my process was correct there. So I'm actually...
Like, I feel a lot better watching how it played out, Pablo, because I did bet the exact right amount, which was something that I looked into.
So explain what happened. So in the moment, you said you messed up the math.
So this was something... Like, I prepared for this, and then talked to you about Daily Doubles. You know Hayes Davenport? He is a guy who went to school with Pablo, who I'm friends with.
Co-host of Hollywood Handbook, another podcast.
Super funny dude, has been on Jeopardy. So I asked him for advice, and this was the one piece of advice he gave me. If you're in second place... and you're in striking distance, meaning you can jump first, only bet enough so that third place can't jump you. So if third place can't jump you at all, you bet $0. That dude had just enough money to jump me, right? Which sucks.
But the reason you do that is because you're not going to win unless first place is wrong. So you don't have to, and first place is going to bet enough to not get jumped. So All you have to do is worry about third place. And that's what I did with my betting strategy. $1,000 was enough to beat third place, right? If he had either gotten it right or didn't get it right.
So in the moment, I was like, wait, did I do this wrong? I was actually more upset that I did it, but I did it right. Because if third place had been wrong, I would have won if we had all been wrong. Because first place had to worry about me. Did that make sense?
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Chapter 7: How do Mina and Pablo analyze the notion of choking on Jeopardy!?
evaluate you thought it was settled in the orange bowl baloney we have with us here on our very stage here in orlando the hurricanes of miami of florida so scared so cute dan's already one of his own cars just all over that this american drove one mile in under 40 seconds that was an average speed of 91 miles an hour name that american auto manufacturer Miami, Dan. Ford.
Henry Ford, that is correct.
They were slow there.
Let's submit the players.
I'm Dan Levitard. I'm a 19-year-old sophomore majoring in news editorial journalism and politics. I'm from Miramar, Florida.
All right, Hurricanes.
And I'm just walking here.
Wait, you're 19 in this class? 1972 Summer Olympic Games took place in what city? Oklahoma Camp. Munich. Munich is right. Which Boston Red Sox pitcher... Oh, here's the buzzer technique. Here's Dan's.
Miami, Todd.
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Chapter 8: What lessons did Mina learn about preparation and confidence for game shows?
I think that it is unique because people are always like, oh, it's political or whatever. I think it's unique to my job because I have to do it so f***ing much. Do you have an equivalent of that in your guys' lives? Like a thing where you're just like, I'm compelled so often to address this exact thing. Must I do this?
You might even say that these Aaron Rodgers segments... They're her own personal daily double.
That doesn't even make sense.
I feel like it does.
It just doesn't make sense.
I'm sorry. Logically, that's a terrible analogy.
Pablo Torre Finds Out is produced by Walter Abaroma, Ryan Cortez, Sam Dawig, Juan Galindo, Patrick Kim, Neely Lohman, Rob McRae, Rachel Miller Howard, Carl Scott, Matt Sullivan, Claire Taylor, Chris Tuminello, and Juliet Warren. Our studio engineering by RG Systems. Our sound design by NGW Post. Our theme song, as always, is by John Bravo. And we will talk to you next time.
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