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The Big Suey: The Billy Hamilton of Hockey

Mon, 02 Jun 2025

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"I urinated next to Clint Black, the country star, once." Who cares if Connor McDavid is the fastest player in hockey? How 'bout he wins somethin'? Also, Amin has a report from his in-person experience with Pascal Siakam and Gregg Doyel. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?

1.573 - 22.133 Billy

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29.095 - 29.576 Billy

Cuervo.

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51.07 - 59.872 John Amaechi

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63.581 - 84.325 Bill Clinton

Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there.

84.505 - 91.606 Bill Clinton

That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.

92.586 - 118.572 Greg Cote

this episode is presented by smirnoff we do game days please drink responsibly the smirnoff company new york new york you can be very afraid and properly respectful of conor mcdavid and also have what i'm about to say be true as to why it is the defending champions might not fear what cometh this way even though i would fear what cometh this way not just with home ice but because

119.032 - 143.958 Greg Cote

the growth of this kind of transcendent talent sort of demands that he step up and win this to be the talent that I believe everyone hockey thinks he already is, just better than everybody. And what he's facing, though, is the following. It is a franchise that not only took out and beheaded Tampa and all that it was, but made Boston and New York go about doing a different kind of business.

144.518 - 169.251 Greg Cote

And now has Toronto's GM saying, we need to change our DNA because what we are isn't what they are. And so now you're slicing through the top of the toughest conference with the deepest team Paul Maurice has ever had. If Connor McDavid is to be the champion, I believe him to be, that his greatness demands, he will slay this giant. But it will be a giant he slays.

Chapter 2: Why is Connor McDavid considered the fastest in hockey?

209.134 - 217.802 Greg Cote

But how about the quote, though, from Toronto's GM, we have to change our DNA? It's obvious. But what you're leaving in your wake in Carolina and Toronto.

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217.862 - 232.519 Billy

I don't think Carolina gets a message ever. Like, what are we leaving? Like, let's just run it back. Rod Brindamore always is like, we're this close. And I'm like, thank you. Thank you, Rod. I love how Carolina approaches everything. God bless the Carolina Hurricanes. Keep running it back. You guys are close.

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232.819 - 250.478 Greg Cote

Amin had the proper tone with the Knicks when he says, they were very good. Why do we have to immediately change the architecture? Well, the why is Carolina and Toronto had some of the best teams they've ever had, and it wasn't good enough. They had teams good enough to hope that this was the year that

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Chapter 3: What are the challenges facing the Edmonton Oilers?

250.838 - 272.414 Greg Cote

And it was taken out by the defending champion in a way that's so overt that you have to change the way you're doing the entirety of business because they've passed you. We know how competitive these things are. So when it's these two teams, they just buzz sawed through the playoffs. I know that Toronto, I know that Toronto took them seven games, but the playoffs are generally pretty hard.

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272.734 - 291.252 Greg Cote

This all intents and purposes to pretty easy paths for somehow for, I'm not saying the teams weren't good. I'm just saying to go 12-2 through one conference and to go through, you know, tested once by Toronto, you ran through the conferences. These are clearly the two best teams.

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291.332 - 308.636 Billy

You ran through the toughest division ever. Certainly in hockey. And I think the divisions, I really hope the NHL goes back to one through eight best records in the conference because you have a situation with Carolina where they've just tricked themselves into thinking they're the second best team in the conference when they're not. I don't even know if they...

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309.056 - 325.668 Billy

They'd probably get a wild card if they're stuck in the Atlantic. And by the way, if you ranked the teams in the Eastern Conference 1-8, first-round matchup would be Carolina and Florida. I bet you that five-game series loss would hit a hell of a lot different if it just so happened to be in the first round.

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326.429 - 332.754 Tim Kurkjian

I mean, the regular season really didn't matter. I mean, both the Panthers and Oilers kind of rested up for this playoff.

333.454 - 361.489 Billy

and the panthers really needed that uh that rest because we saw magic chuck in the tampa series come out and did what he did during this four-year run it's a pretty amazing way that the panthers have gotten to the playoffs and then three consecutive finals because they've done it all they won a president's trophy and they realized second round exit at the hands of the tampa bay lightning we're not good enough let's trade the face of the franchise then they squeak in as an eighth seed do it all on the road get to a final broken

362.069 - 376.9 Billy

And then they are the best team in the sport. Well, not President's Trophy, but have home ice throughout the Eastern Conference. And this one, they decided, you know what, we're just going to be road warriors the entire postseason. They can beat you any type of way, and they can get to the final any type of way.

377.06 - 388.789 Greg Cote

When Paul Murray says it's the best team he's had, and the last one he had was a champion, and when what, I will keep saying, cometh this way throughout hockey history, when something that looks like this.

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Laughter

Chapter 4: How did the Panthers evolve into a winning team?

397.758 - 414.663 Billy

He's the fastest skater ever. I mean, he's one of the greatest players ever. I got to say, hats off to you guys, because a lot of Panthers fans were worried about what you guys would do with your Stanley Cup preview. Just run it back, call the best player in the world who's already plenty pissed off, overrated. I'll give my dad time. Yeah, I mean, we get it.

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414.743 - 428.186 Billy

He's got to win the cup for you to crown him one of the greatest of all times. But I think it's very clear who the best player in the world is right now. If you want to rank him against Ghost, that is your prerogative. And if you want to frame the discussion that way, I guess go right ahead.

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428.206 - 434.468 Billy

I don't know how it serves it because that guy, I don't like the look in his eye and I don't like the way that he plays hockey. That guy's a demigod.

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434.568 - 455.483 Greg Cote

All right, can you help me here, Billy? Because Mike's trying to cut us off at the knees before we even get started. Greg Cody, it wasn't just Vegas that made it all go to his head. Greg Cody made himself the center of the Stanley Cup final. He made himself the center, the star media personality calling Conor McDavid overrated last year, infuriating Mike Ryan.

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455.563 - 474.235 Greg Cote

You guys got so serious that you thought my billboards were going to jinx your team? Everybody ran diarrhea shitting themselves, not allowing me to do some things because Mike didn't want us blamed for ruining the Stanley Cup final championship run because we had to get Greg Cody more attention.

474.255 - 479.158 Rachel

Yeah, silly superstition. They blew a 3-0 lead. We were all panicking.

479.518 - 482.84 Greg Cote

Well, not me. That would be the situation that we were in.

485.482 - 487.104 Billy

My ass was inside my chest.

487.564 - 491.689 Rachel

Okay, Connor McDavid is the fastest skater in this series.

Chapter 5: What was the significance of the press conference with Pascal Siakam?

577.149 - 588.098 Greg Cote

Okay. Art Carney. It doesn't feel like you're trying to help. Let me get a palate cleanser here. Give me the testy Siakam. The show's been a little scattered today. Give me the testy Siakam I asked for 40 minutes ago.

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588.82 - 601.702 Emily Davis

What do you mean? What are you talking about? They played harder than us. It's okay. We played hard, but they played harder. What's your point? I don't get it. That happens in the game, though.

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601.742 - 602.523 Mark

That's basketball.

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602.823 - 629.613 Dan Le Batard

Yeah. You're good? You're good, bro? You're looking for something, I know, but damn. No, no, but I'm telling you, though. I told you. What else do you want me to tell you?

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629.633 - 633.216 Chris Cote

I want you to tell me how.

Chapter 6: What insights did Amin share about his experience with Siakam?

633.236 - 641.744 Dan Le Batard

That's all I'm asking. Well, what about you tell me? So go ahead. Who is this guy? Who is this guy? What's your name, bro?

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643.866 - 653.501 Dan

Oh. Did he know who he was? He doesn't know who he is. He doesn't know who he is because Greg Doyle's a columnist, and columnists sometimes don't come to games. So I hear.

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653.681 - 654.762 Amin Elhassan

Swoop in for the playoffs?

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655.162 - 656.523 Dan

That's really true.

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657.644 - 674.718 Greg Cote

It used to be that if you were Pascal Siakam in your town, you would know who the local newspaper columnist is. You would know who that is. I would have no reason to think that Pascal Siakam is going behind the paywall at the Indianapolis Star to see what Greg Doyle wrote about his 30-point performance.

675.098 - 675.718 Rachel

He can afford it.

676.318 - 686.421 Greg Cote

Well, I just I don't imagine that these guys are going. All right. Put it on the poll at Levitard show. Are the Pacers all paying for Indianapolis star subscriptions?

686.481 - 695.723 Dan

Yes. Vote yes. Maybe the team pays for all of them to have it. Support local journalism. There you go. Number two, Clay Thompson used to famously read actual newspapers. There you go.

696.743 - 711.434 Rachel

We love that. By the way, Siakam, I thought, gave a very good answer, a very legitimate answer. I like an athlete who's willing to admit, man, we busted our ass. We played hard. They played a little harder. It's not a crime to admit that. So I was there. But how?

Chapter 7: What lessons can be learned from the playoff performances?

853.832 - 862.554 Greg Cote

Go ahead and play it back. All right, so let's see if we can see the back of Amin's head in the shot if we play it back, because I don't see anybody's head. Up, up, up.

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863.054 - 864.035 Bill Clinton

Up, up, up, up, up.

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864.055 - 870.097 Greg Cote

There you go. Let's see what we've got here. Go ahead and play the sound again because there was something else I thought was funny about this.

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870.117 - 879.862 Emily Davis

You know what was at stake. You're saying they played harder than you guys. You didn't fight them hard enough. How is that possible?

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879.882 - 880.422 Mark

What do you mean?

880.502 - 888.366 Dan Le Batard

How is it possible to not fight hard enough in games? They played harder than us. It's okay. We played hard, but they played harder. What's your point? I don't get it.

888.806 - 890.747 Jane Doe

My point is you're saying you guys got out fought and

891.443 - 922.107 Dan Le Batard

That happens in the game, though. That's basketball. You good? You good, bro? You're looking for something, I know. But damn. No, no, but I'm telling you, though. I told you. What else do you want me to tell you? Well, what about you tell me? So go ahead. Who is this guy? Who is this guy? What's your name, bro? Oh.

923.448 - 929.011 Dan

That's me turning my head back and forth because I'm like, is this really happening right now? On the scene. Check out his body. Yes.

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