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The Dan Patrick Show

Hour 2 – SEC wants to secede, Joey Votto

28 May 2026

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Chapter 1: How is Isaiah Hartenstein affecting Victor Wembanyama's performance?

0.031 - 3.763 Dan Patrick

This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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5.228 - 12.618 Joey Votto

Hey guys, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas.

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12.979 - 16.464 Dan Patrick

We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.

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16.544 - 21.811 Unknown

We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.

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22.092 - 31.144 Joey Votto

Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but you know. Tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

31.565 - 32.005 Dan Patrick

Just listen.

32.045 - 33.227 Joey Votto

We don't care where you hear it.

33.764 - 36.689 Todd

Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy.

36.789 - 57.334 Joey Votto

Not quite. On Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter.

Chapter 2: What are the SEC's concerns about the current college football landscape?

141.395 - 173.655 Joey Votto

If you miss the show, you can podcast it. If you want to see the show, just go to Peacock and we stream it live every weekday. Watch past episodes, too. The Dan Patrick Show, available anywhere you are, any way you want it. Welcome to the Dan Patrick Show. I'll take a sports Emmy. I don't care what category. Hosted by Dan Patrick and joined by the four Danielas.

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173.675 - 200.655 Joey Votto

So I guess Danette in Spanish is Daniela. Con las Danielas, Thor, Marley, y el famoso. Dan brings you the biggest guests and best interviews in the world of sports. Shea Gilgis, the rest of his career, when his career is over, will probably look back and say, yeah, but. I hate that we do it, but he was a guy who was always flopping. He was a guy who was always, you know, searching for fouls.

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200.875 - 225.64 Joey Votto

Instead of giving him credit for being right now a two-time MVP and favored to win another championship. Broadcasting from the man cave. It's unfortunate. This is Dan Patrick. It's hour two on this Thursday. Gang's all here. We're fully assembled. I'd say fully loaded, but that is a different meaning with Dylan. But Todd is here. Dylan in the back row. Marvin, Paulie, yours truly.

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225.66 - 250.147 Joey Votto

And, of course, the backroom guys as well. Joey Votto. You know, what's the beer company that has the most interesting man in the world? Is that Modelo? Dos Equis. Dos Equis. Okay. Joey Votto might be a good, most interesting man in the world because since he retired, he was the first baseman for the Reds. He's been all over the world doing all kinds of things. Surfing in Ireland.

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250.567 - 272.047 Joey Votto

He learned how to be a sushi chef in Japan. Yoga instructor. Yoga instructor. He is the most interesting man in the world. So maybe we can have him audition for Dos Equis. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show. Poll question, play of the day. We already had that. Stat of the day. We'll have a few of those.

272.528 - 289.518 Joey Votto

Say good morning if you're watching on Peacock. Thank you for downloading the app. And we say good morning to our radio affiliates around the country. Game six tonight. San Antonio, a slight favorite. Three and a half points. Wemby did not meet with the media.

290.459 - 315.076 Joey Votto

This after getting the Magic Johnson, I don't know what the official definition is, but it's a Magic Johnson award of being the best interview for members of the media. Most cooperative with the media. And he then got warned. He didn't get fined for not talking to the media after game five. Other players, this isn't all they're giving preferential treatment to Wemby.

315.096 - 347.057 Joey Votto

There's other players that it says to warn the players and then the next time you find them. But Wemby didn't talk to the media. There's obviously a subcurrent here. And my thought is it's Isaiah Hartenstein. I think that he has given Wemby fits. He was one for nine when Hartenstein guarded him. If you look at the victories, 37.16 rebounds, three blocks. That's what he's averaged.

347.077 - 363.623 Joey Votto

In the three losses, 22.9 rebounds and three blocks. So still, good stuff. He needs to have great stuff tonight if they're going to send this back to OKC. But Isaiah Hartenstein, he knows exactly what he's supposed to do.

Chapter 3: What adventures did Joey Votto experience after retiring from baseball?

364.126 - 388.726 Joey Votto

be physical, have energy, whatever it takes. Set picks, rebound, keep the ball alive, whatever it takes. And every championship team has at least one of these guys. Now, you could say Hartenstein and Caruso are those two guys. Josh Hart for the Knicks. You have those guys that you go, I don't know what it is that you're going to have to do tonight, but we'll let you know.

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388.766 - 413.961 Joey Votto

And I think that's the beauty of great teams. Down through history. We talked about this yesterday. All of these great teams, I don't care how good your great player is or your second best player is, it may come down to that fourth, fifth, sixth. Andre Iguodala always stands out. He won the MVP, the finals MVP. You have those guys who do something.

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415.173 - 440.438 Joey Votto

And I think every championship team has those guys. I mean, the Celtics with Bill Russell felt like they had a bunch of those guys that you just kind of said, all right, come on in. You do this. We'll, you know, don't need you next game. You can go with the Laker team, you know, with Shaq and Kobe. You still needed those guys coming off the bench. You know, you needed Rick Fox, Robert Ory.

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440.907 - 464.97 Joey Votto

You needed guys who were going to do the little things, and that'll be important tonight. That's what I'll keep an eye on, certainly with Wemby. But I hope that he gets in the paint, creates some things. I want to see a game seven. And, you know, this is right along the storylines with OKC. Last year, they didn't put away seven games for Denver, seven games for the Pacers.

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465.631 - 492.953 Joey Votto

They weren't blowing people out. They were holding on. And now you might get to another game seven with the Knicks waiting for you. 877-3DP-SHELL. Operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls. I saw this. We talked a little bit about this yesterday. Kirby Smart, the Georgia head coach, was talking about how many teams do we need in the playoffs. 24 teams.

493.388 - 523.023 Joey Votto

Now there's talk that maybe the SEC takes its ball and goes home and secede from college football, which I don't really want to have the SEC and the word secede together. That's cool. Hey, we're going to have our own football conference here. This just feels like, okay, everybody caught up with the SEC. The Big Ten did. I don't want to say everybody. And now the SEC is like, wait a minute here.

523.884 - 542.066 Joey Votto

What's going on? Well, you're not doing what you were able to do and nobody else could do that before. You got three of the top five recruiting classes are in the Big Ten. Oregon and USC are one and two. The Big Ten has the last three national titles.

Chapter 4: How did Joey Votto become a sushi chef in Japan?

542.546 - 569.99 Joey Votto

4-0 against the SEC in the last three seasons head-to-head in college football playoffs. The money with NIL changed everything here. That pipeline, hey, you're going to get these guys, they're going to go to your school, that's not the case anymore. Indiana won a national championship. And because of that, everybody has to think, if you have a quality football program, why not us?

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571.071 - 586.369 Joey Votto

And the SEC still stands alone as the best conference, top to bottom, but I think things have changed. I don't know if it's and it's not coming back because, as my college football source said, you've got to have tech money or oil money.

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588.152 - 614.069 Joey Votto

If you want to sustain your treasure trove, and teams are spending upwards of $40 million a year on their football teams, $20 million, if not more, on their basketball teams, depending on the importance of that. That's why everybody wants more money in the college football playoffs. The SEC is fighting that right now. And look, anything Greg Sankey says, I believe, I trust.

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614.79 - 639.78 Joey Votto

But this is a situation where I think they're just looking for how do we monetize this so it benefits the SEC. I don't think anybody has had this altruistic approach and said, let's do what's best for college football. Okay, when have you ever done anything that's best for college football? This is about money for all of these programs.

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640.461 - 665.964 Joey Votto

And I think that's where the SEC, it used to be Alabama and Georgia, Georgia and Alabama. And it's not anymore. They're still great programs. They'll still compete for national championships. But things have changed. And that's where teams, you know, boosters, your collectives, they get together and they go, well, what did Mark Cuban give Indiana? Like, how much do we need to really compete?

666.625 - 691.586 Joey Votto

So now you do the math, and now you go, okay, we need to get some of these players. We need to get transfers. What are we offering them? So now it's like we're enticing you in ways that we never could before. And that's why you're seeing it's not Ohio State, it's not Michigan. You know they're going to be great. Now you get Indiana in there. Oregon, another great recruiting year.

691.907 - 713.685 Joey Votto

USC might get it right here. Yes, Dylan. Essentially, the nerd money in the Big Ten is now beating the oil money of the SEC. I don't know if the SEC has oil money unless we're talking about Texas and Oklahoma. And then they haven't won any national titles in a while. Just saying. Yes, Paul. You got Walmart money down in Arkansas. You do.

714.867 - 729.102 Paulie

I would say, though, with the SEC, they are on the side that most of the college football fans want. They don't want the expansion of 24 teams, so the average college football fan might support the SEC's, not secession, they don't want that, but direction.

730.28 - 749.402 Joey Votto

Yeah, but do I think this is just for the betterment of college football? Sorry if I'm a cynic on this, Paulie, but I've learned to be a cynic after 40-some years of hearing this same rhetoric here. And let's do what's best for the kids and the sport. That's not what's happening here. Yeah, Paulie.

Chapter 5: What challenges does baseball's ABS system present for players?

782.962 - 786.689 Joey Votto

They prioritize education, not how good is our football team.

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786.709 - 787.651 Paulie

Ugh, education.

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787.671 - 813.266 Joey Votto

Yeah, I know. I know. Buzzkill. Imagine all those billionaires giving library. Yeah. Oh, great. You got a library named after you. It'd been nice if we got a five-star quarterback. What's the poll question today, Dylan? You want a quick recap? Yeah, sure. Why not? All right, Dan. Well, according to the Internet, 66% of people think the Thunder Spurs series will go to a Game 7.

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814.167 - 824.501 Joey Votto

And then in 100 years, which athlete from this era will be the most remembered slash spoken about? We went with Tom Brady, LeBron James, Shohei Otani, or other. 46% say Otani.

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All right.

825.877 - 849.876 Joey Votto

One thing about the expanded playoffs is, depending on how much strength of schedule goes into the seating, expansion could be a route to scheduling tougher non-conference games. And maybe we get these rivalry games back. Maybe we get Notre Dame-USC. I know that they've been talking Oklahoma-Oklahoma State. I want to see those rivalry games. I think it's important.

849.856 - 880.358 Joey Votto

maybe it's not as important because everybody's worried about strength of schedule. And if we get four losses, can we make a, you know, 16 team playoff or 2014 playoff? I, I understand that, but man, this is a, and I'll go back to last year where my college football source said, wait till this next season that we will have the most disruption we've ever had. And that's where we are. It's crazy.

881.259 - 919.133 Joey Votto

4 to 12. 12? 24. How about 16? No, we want 24. It's just wild. NIL, collectives, how much money you're spending. I don't know when it stops. I know the NCAA needs help from Congress. That should tell you everything you need to know about these people in power that, you know, now it's too late. Like, you can't go, hey, hold on here. Let's stop here.

919.233 - 947.684 Joey Votto

We want to have some kind of – the NCAA has no teeth here. Now, do I like other schools being able to compete for national titles? Yes, I like it. Indiana was a great story, wonderful story. Maybe it comes back to the norm where the Blue Bloods do well. But look, basketball, changing right before our very eyes. The schools that you go, they're going to be there every year.

Chapter 6: Why do players view the term 'salary cap' as toxic?

948.185 - 966.126 Joey Votto

Now you're like, oh, okay, Kentucky is there maybe, or Kansas is there. Used to be you just plug them in. It's not the case anymore. Because all it takes is one or two of these players, and you get them for one year. Next thing you know, you've got March Madness. Yeah, Paulie.

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966.166 - 970.712 Paulie

I do have some good news from college football. This was a story the other day that almost got past the goalie.

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971.113 - 993.903 Joey Votto

The SEC, they're expanding the amount of conference football games, so they're going to get rid of Cupcake Weekend in November. Remember that third weekend in November when Alabama would play Eastern Illinois, Auburn versus Mercer, Georgia versus Charlotte? Yeah. Starting with the 2027 season, that will be gone. So the Alabama-UT-Chattanooga game of 2026 will be last call for that. All right.

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993.923 - 1000.611 Joey Votto

Cupcake weekend is gone. Got to make sure I get my tickets for that one. Nellie in Kansas leads us off. Hi, Nellie.

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1003.014 - 1028.865 Todd

Yeah, good morning. One comment and one question. 6-2, 240. My comment is I'm really pulling for the Spurs tonight, and I'm hoping Mitch Johnson continues to get airtime. Talk about product placements. That's off to those girls. And then my question is, Dan, how do you balance your friendships with athletes and then your interview style?

1029.205 - 1036.635 Todd

And then not only your friends, but just athletes in general. How do you be critical and yet still welcoming to get them on the show?

1037.456 - 1060.331 Joey Votto

Well, I think the more I know you, the more apt I am to ask you a tougher question. But I got to be fair to them. I try not to do gotcha. And I think there are certain questions you have to ask certain people. How they answer those, that's up to them. But they know I have to do a job. And that could be asking a question.

1060.872 - 1079.671 Joey Votto

I refuse to do any interviews where somebody says or their PR person says, he's not going to talk about that. And the number of times we've said that, then it's a no-go. We can't do it. And Todd's usually the messenger where I say, Todd, tell them we can't do it. Yeah, Todd.

1079.691 - 1099.132 Joey Votto

Or there's the, we need to see a list of the questions, which is, how are you supposed to get a decent response if they can kind of rehearse ahead of time what they're going to say to the questions? Yeah, never, never do that. But I got to be fair to you. And I think the reason why you get a lot of the interviews we get is they know I'm going to be fair. I'll do my homework.

Chapter 7: What are the implications of NIL on college football programs?

1246.494 - 1247.656 Joey Votto

We invented a podcast?

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1247.876 - 1256.627 Dan Patrick

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Yeah, a pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special.

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1257.007 - 1259.831 Joey Votto

So how did we actually come up with the name Hey Jonas, guys?

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1260.512 - 1264.917 Paulie

I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it, and...

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1264.897 - 1272.229 Joey Votto

Well, we were thinking of originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.

1273.691 - 1275.774 Dan Patrick

This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.

1276.035 - 1277.077 Joey Votto

I have a very different memory of this.

1277.457 - 1281.624 Dan Patrick

We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas.

1281.944 - 1296.888 Joey Votto

And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. Oh, wow. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

Chapter 8: How does Joey Votto perceive his journey after leaving the MLB?

1686.266 - 1707.579 Joey Votto

I've got nothing to say. I'm not that interesting. This is my best moment in life right here exchanging with you. Wait, wait. You're the most interesting man in the world. Forget the guy on the Dos Equis commercial. No, no, I didn't do. I don't think it's a good idea to do that. And really, I don't think anyone's interested. I am.

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1707.759 - 1728.905 Joey Votto

I was fascinated when I saw that you were all over the world doing all these great things. And, you know, you spent 17 years in the major leagues. So probably add another five or 10 to that where you didn't get to do these things. And a lot of athletes are that way after they retire. They're like, I didn't get to go to an Indy 500 or the Kentucky Dirt.

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1728.925 - 1755.928 Joey Votto

You know, like normal things that we can go to. but it felt like you had a bucket list of these are places I want to go and things I want to do? Not to be disrespectful to the athlete community in general, but I get scared of being someone that talks about the past, that talks about the days of yore and how special I was and how I did this and that and magazine covers and all this stuff.

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1755.908 - 1777.943 Joey Votto

celebrity type experience. And I promised myself, you're going to go see the world and you're going to see how people live and you're going to participate. Maybe not live it exactly, but like witness it and be reminded you're not special at all. Nobody cares about you. Nobody even wants to hear about your story. And the more I travel, the more I feel like It humbles me in the best of ways.

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1778.364 - 1792.26 Joey Votto

And I had a terrible, during the course of my career, you develop a terrible ego, an awful ego. And even though I come off as I can act like I have humility, inside I thought I was special.

1792.24 - 1820.02 Joey Votto

and and just the traveling alone reminded me that you're not special at all get in line when i was in the line for 75 minutes outside of a you know a taco stand or a coffee shop or something and i'm standing there like everybody else and i'm thinking if i was back home i'd be able to call in and get to the front here they're like dude beat it yeah so where was the strangest place you were recognized

1821.687 - 1842.177 Joey Votto

You know, some places in Europe you cross paths with people, but almost nowhere. And that was such a gift. I mean, I'm not a famous person, and I played in a small market, but to be able to just really be left be, and it was just the constant reminder of how unspecial you are. It was being shoved in the subway.

1842.217 - 1858.059 Joey Votto

You know, you're in Mexico City or you're in Tokyo, and people are hissing at you because of, like, because you're too much in their space or you're stepping on their foot or your bag should be between your legs. It was just a constant reminder of, dude, you couldn't be less special.

1858.48 - 1885.65 Joey Votto

But the amazing part, you were wearing your Cincinnati Reds uniform when you were traveling and nobody recognized you. Wow. Eye black. My number on the back. Are we taking Otani for granted today? He hasn't even gotten hot. I know that he's had a really nice start to the pitching side of things, but offensively, I don't even sense that.

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