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The Dan Patrick Show

The Best of The Dan Patrick Show

21 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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5.228 - 16.484 Dan Patrick

Hey guys, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.

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We're the first people to do podcasts.

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18.427 - 33.328 Dan Patrick

We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but you know. Tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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Winning on clay is an art. The rallies are relentless.

36.955 - 42.464 Renee Stubbs

And at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know. I competed there for decades.

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Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcast for no-nonsense breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players, and the moments that define Roland Garros.

50.504 - 66.15 Renee Stubbs

She's an outsider to win the Frenchman. And she likes clay. Listen, Lena Rybakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Last night, a blown call changed a game.

Chapter 2: What insights does Isiah Thomas share about his career?

432.656 - 451.803 Dan Patrick

And I started to think about the Spurs and OKC. They're both young, and it feels like they're going to be around for quite some time. And it reminds me of the Colts and the Patriots when it was Brady and Peyton Manning. It felt like if you were going to get to the Super Bowl, you had to go through either the Colts or the Patriots.

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452.725 - 471.952 Dan Patrick

And also, when you think about it, these teams aren't the prototypical, we shoot a lot of three-pointers. Because they don't. They don't have those guys. SGA doesn't shoot threes. When they'll shoot a couple threes, but their offense isn't predicated on we have to shoot at least 45 threes.

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472.313 - 496.037 Dan Patrick

And I find that interesting with contrasting styles what's going on in the NBA where it feels like, hey, you've got to put up at least 45 if you're going to win games. That's the new analytics with the NBA. The Spurs and the Thunders saying maybe not so fast. What other poll questions, Dylan, do you have for the first hour? Todd sent over an interesting one.

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499.444 - 500.346 Dylan

Getting started already.

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501.429 - 519.307 Dan Patrick

When their careers are over, who will we remember with more amazement, Shohei Ohtani or Victor Wembanyama? I think this is a great poll question. And when I saw it from Todd, I checked to see if it was from Todd. And I go, I'll be damned. It's from Todd.

Chapter 3: What happened in the Thunder vs. Spurs game?

519.327 - 530.112 Dylan

Yes, Todd. You kind of alluded to it yesterday. Paul even may have brought it up. Those names came up yesterday. It wasn't formulated specifically as a poll question, but we hinted about the greats, these guys specifically. So why not make a poll question out of it?

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530.345 - 553.75 Dan Patrick

Well, right on cue, Otani homers leading off the game and goes five scoreless innings last night. You know, 20 years from now, people are going to, oh, this day in sports history. Oh, what did Otani do? He's going to be like the modern-day Babe Ruth where it feels like we have a Babe Ruth stat. On this day in 1929, it feels like we're going to have that with Shohei Ohtani.

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554.351 - 590.979 Dan Patrick

But Ohtani is – I mean, there's nothing like Ohtani. I know Wemby is different than anybody we've ever seen. I don't know. That's tough. I mean, we've seen some brilliant highlights with Otani already. But his highlights aren't like Wemby's. He might hit a home run. He might strike out seven in five innings. But okay, Wemby can go 41-24 and have 10 blocks. That hasn't happened.

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591.44 - 618.682 Dan Patrick

Now, I know we're seeing Otani do both of these things simultaneously, but Wemby plays defense as well. I mean, he's playing offense and defense. Otani, when you're pitching and hitting, playing offense and defense. So I would think dramatic moments, it would be Wemby. Yes, Dylan. But if you're a basketball player, you are supposed to play offense and defense, right? Some guys just don't. Yeah.

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619.564 - 650.005 Dan Patrick

But he plays at a higher level than anybody. Like, Otani's not the best pitcher in baseball. But he can pitch like he's the best pitcher in baseball. There's nobody like Wemby. Wemby's the best defensive player, not even close. And then offensively, he holds his own. And he's just learning at 22. What's Otani? 28? Does that sound about right? Oh, how old, Paulie? He's 31. Okay, wow.

650.906 - 652.928 Dan Patrick

He got started a little late. Yeah.

653.684 - 660.774 Dylan

I think the key to this poll question is the word amazement. When Benyama had a play last night, he had a right-handed runner.

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It rims out, and he reached across the lane and tipped it in with his left hand. And even Reggie Miller goes, what was that? Because his hand just kind of comes out of nowhere, this long broomstick arm. And he tipped it from the backside. So that's amazement. I think what Otani has, Otani's like the first guy on the moon. He's setting all these records.

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Lead-off hitter to pitch five innings in a game and get a win. No one's ever done it before. Babe Ruth never let off. He pitched. He never let off. So he's going to have all these records that are, they're not just unbreakable. No one's even going to have the chance to do it.

Chapter 4: How does Patrick Ewing reflect on his time at Madison Square Garden?

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All right. I don't want to be a killjoy, sorry.

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862.464 - 892.973 Dan Patrick

Yeah. But Willie Hernandez of the Tigers back in 1984. Justin Verlander. Yeah, yeah. I hate when somebody says a pitcher can't be most valuable. Like, they have their own award. Okay. It's not like pitchers say, hey, we need our award, you know, if we can't be MVP. Yes, Dylan. Do you think we would be more likely to see another Wemby first or another Otani first?

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894.435 - 924.845 Dan Patrick

Obviously, there's a genetic component to the Wemba Nyama, like, in terms of, like, being 7'5". But... Right now, I would say Wemby. Right now, I would say Wemby. But you've got to get somebody to give you a chance to do both hitting and pitching. That's really the key. We might see somebody this size do what Wemby's done because this is how it happens.

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The evolution of athletes is you're inspired by an athlete, and then you try to replicate what they do. Yeah, Paul?

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Paul Skeens was a great hitter at Air Force and a great pitcher, then became just a great pitcher.

937.285 - 954.552 Dylan

These teams, like the Pirates, are not going to let Skeens bat 500 times. When Otani was deciding which major league team to go to, he said, I'm hitting and pitching. And only a few teams said yes. The Angels were somewhat desperate, from what I've read, and said yes. You needed the opening, like you said.

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And he's already had procedures done too. And he's 31 years of age. You hope he'll be able to stay healthy to do both. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick Show weekdays at 9 a.m. Eastern, 6 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Hey, it's Ben, host of The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller. It would mean a lot to have you join us on our weekly auditory journey. You're asking, what in God's name is The Fifth Hour? I'll tell you, it's a spin-off of the Ben Maller Show, a cult hit overnights on FSR. Why should you listen?

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Picture, if you will, a world where we chat with captains of industry, in media, sports, and more every week, explore some amazing facts about human nature and more. Listen to The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Chapter 5: What unique skills does Victor Wembanyama bring to basketball?

1046.464 - 1079.477 Dan Patrick

And then I wrote down on my little notepad, hey, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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We go straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight reel. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered.

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Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And for more, follow TimboSlicelife12 and the TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.

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1114.067 - 1131.469 Renee Stubbs

The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis. And I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Rene Stubbs, and on the Rene Stubbs Tennis Podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garros. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay.

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Genshin win. I mean, she went down to three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French, right? And she likes clay.

1140.46 - 1158.818 Renee Stubbs

Listen, Lena Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving well, good luck. Consider this your courtside seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

1163.123 - 1172.496 Dylan

Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.

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Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.

Chapter 6: How do injuries affect team performance in the playoffs?

1389.132 - 1416.157 Isiah Thomas

SGA is more of a passer than Jordan was at that particular time. Jordan was what we called a reluctant passer. He would actually take on the double team, right, as a challenge and try to score over the double team as opposed to kicking it out. And when Phil Jackson came along, put him in a triangle and put those snipers around him, that's when everything changed.

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1417.861 - 1421.668 Dan Patrick

Have you seen anything resembling Wim Bin Young before?

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1423.285 - 1452.783 Isiah Thomas

I would say Ralph Sampson. Early Ralph Sampson, you know, his first three years in the NBA, I believe he was in the NBA Finals his third year. His third or fourth year he was in the NBA Finals playing against the Celtics. Upset the Laker dynasty. Remember, they swept the Lakers. And that's when they changed the playoff format because they didn't want the Lakers going out early.

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1453.527 - 1455.578 Isiah Thomas

So, right, they changed the playoff format.

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Yeah.

1456.411 - 1482.098 Isiah Thomas

You know, you've been around, Dan. You know what happened. You know how the rules changed and got manipulated and everything else. And I see you scratching your face right now, but, you know, it's all good. I understand. But they didn't like the Lakers being swept, so they gave the Lakers more time to win in the playoffs. But Samson was that dominant. And if Samson don't get hurt,

1482.078 - 1495.236 Isiah Thomas

You remember Bill Russell saying that Ralph Sampson, if he continues on the path that he's going, he would be considered one of the greatest players, if not the greatest player, to play all game.

1497.179 - 1505.25 Dan Patrick

Ball-dominant guards, now it seems like it's commonplace. Was there such a thing as a ball-dominant guard back when you played?

1505.804 - 1530.31 Isiah Thomas

No, because you had, you had guys in the locker room who would say, if you don't pass me the ball, I'm going to, I'm going to stick your little ass up on the wall. You know, um, you know, big, big guys were, you know, they, they wanted to play too. And it was a team game where everyone shared, um, you know, but you know, ball dominant guards, um,

Chapter 7: What was the significance of the rivalry between the Pacers and the Knicks?

1866.876 - 1875.488 Isiah Thomas

And that's how psychologically, you know, you get a little off when you're trying to win.

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1877.442 - 1888.599 Dan Patrick

I mean, that's what made you great, but Mahorn's look when you smacked him in the face, he just looked down and grinned, and it was like, no, you don't want any part of this. You don't want any part of this.

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1889.741 - 1906.575 Isiah Thomas

You know, again, so thankful. So thankful that he would take that attitude, right, and say, no, you don't want any part of this. But, hey, I'm... I'm sorry.

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1908.659 - 1910.502 Dan Patrick

Did you eventually say sorry to him?

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1911.123 - 1938.105 Isiah Thomas

Absolutely, I did. Absolutely, I did. And still do today, right? Because you say the video pops up. And, you know, we're all men, and it's something to chuckle about. But then it's something also to, you know, kind of respect, like... You know I did you a solid by not hurting you. And I'm like, yes, thank you, every day. Thank you, Rick, for not hurting me.

1938.886 - 1943.772 Dan Patrick

Can you see a player trying to be like Dennis Rodman today?

1945.494 - 1982.004 Isiah Thomas

I think we have several who try to imitate his style defensively. And they're known for, you know, defending and rebounding in our league right now. What they don't have is, you know, his... his kind of moxie in belief. I mean, when Dennis came in athletically, I mean, you saw Dan, he was a freak athletically. I mean, running, jumping, rebounding.

1982.925 - 2015.23 Isiah Thomas

And what I really admired about him and got to understand was how smart and brilliant he was about the game. And accepting, keyword accepting, what he could do and what he couldn't do. And I see players now trying to maximize and do things that they can't do. But if they focused on rebounding and defending, as he did his whole career,

2015.463 - 2037.888 Isiah Thomas

I think he went into the Hall of Fame and never averaged double digits in scoring. But rebounding and defending is what he did and what he was known for. There are a lot of players who have that capability, but I don't know if they have that perseverance and discipline to come to the arena every night and say, this is what I'm going to do.

Chapter 8: How does Isaiah Thomas view the evolution of basketball coaching?

2271.22 - 2286.602 Dan Patrick

That's in my other studio, but I do have a large Bob Knight doll. People think that the doll that I had there was Bob Knight. It's Lou Holtz from when he was at Arkansas. Somebody sent me that, but people thought that was Bob Knight.

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2287.243 - 2295.014 Isiah Thomas

Oh, Coach Knight would be so upset being compared to Lou Holtz.

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2295.495 - 2298.199 Dan Patrick

He would be upset being compared to anybody, I think.

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2298.219 - 2300.282 Isiah Thomas

Oh, he would be so upset.

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2300.887 - 2325.73 Dan Patrick

One of these days we have to talk about him because he hated everybody at SportsCenter. And all of a sudden, Jay Billis said, talk to Dan Patrick. He knows basketball. Coach Knight said, have him call me. I call him. I think I'm being punked. And we maintained a friendship until he died. So it was just a complicated guy, as you well know.

2326.537 - 2351.389 Isiah Thomas

Well, most geniuses are, and he truly was a genius about the sport. And everything that we talk about in sport defensively, And now offensively, you mentioned Steph Curry, that Golden State offense with pass, moving, cutting, playing off the ball, coming off screens, and all of that came out of his mind.

2352.411 - 2366.392 Isiah Thomas

And the defensive and offensive philosophies that are being implemented still today, all of that came from his head. And so the geniuses are always a little complicated, but that's why we love them.

2367.854 - 2370.077 Dan Patrick

Thank you, Isaiah. We appreciate your time.

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Thank you.

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