Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What are the predictions for the Thunder vs. Spurs Game 6?
But the following season would probably help me define OKC's place in history. And I know OKC fans get upset whenever I say something about Shea or whatever. You've got to stop with the, oh, woe is me, small market. Oh, the NBA, they only cater to, if we play the Knicks, the Knicks are going to get all the calls. Stop. Don't do the, oh, woe is me. Just go out there and root.
But don't give me the, oh, big market, small market. Is OKC good for the NBA? No. Big markets are. But they're still a great team. So you can say, hey, I don't care what the NBA wants. They want San Antonio against the Knicks. Okay. So what? Go win the game tonight. Drive the NBA crazy. Or the fans crazy. Yes, Marvin.
I'm going to have to disagree because I think that's the old way of thinking where we think about small market teams. I think it's more about the star. If they had a star, if it was like Steph Curry, it doesn't matter where he's playing. If he's on a really good team and it doesn't matter about the market, especially in this day and time where the Internet runs everything.
So you really don't need a big market. But I think it's the combination of small market plus how they play. But if you're in a small market, you have that inferiority complex. Whether it's true or not, it's like, oh, we're not going to get the calls tonight. Oh, they want Wemby to go to the final. I know how this works, okay?
I've been doing this for a long time, and I know the small markets, certainly in baseball and basketball, not football because that doesn't matter, but these smaller markets where they don't want us to win. OKC is a great team, and SGA is a star-ish kind of player. He's not a video clips where you check your phone in the morning. He's just not.
You might get more video clips out of Chet Holmgren than SGA. Chances are maybe he does something interesting. SGA is just methodical. It's, I know exactly what I'm going to get. It's like having the same meal every single day, and somebody says, how was it? Good. Same meal. That's it. It's like there's one restaurant in OKC and it's SGA.
He's serving up what he does every single night against every single team. That is not something that is must-see TV. That's what the NBA wants. When you get to the finals, they want a big audience. Wemby is, you know, a different creature. And the Knicks are going to be the Knicks. And you get celebrities there. You get the atmosphere there. You get, you know, it's all involved there.
That's what you want. Now, that's not what you always get. You can't get the Yankees against the Dodgers in the World Series every year. If you could, baseball would be like, yes, we'll sign up for that. But it's tricky when it comes to dynasties. What is a dynasty depending on the sport? Yes, Marvin. The Pistons and the Rockets, they both went back-to-back. But we don't consider them dynasties.
We remember them, but they're not considered dynasties like the Lakers and the Bulls. Yes. I think you've got to win at least three in five years. If you go three-peat, then you're a dynasty. But it depends on the sport. If you go back-to-back... Like we keep talking about the Patriots back at the beginning of, you know, this decade or century where you go, oh, back to back.
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Chapter 3: What insights does Joey Votto share about life after baseball?
That's why it doesn't happen. It's harder to do that in the NFL than it is these other sports. Yes, Dylan.
Are you considering the Patriots two dynasties or one continuous one, obviously with a lull in between? Because I imagine as long as Brady was there, that's kind of one.
I would say two with a pause. Because they went, what, 10 years without winning anything. But they won. Like, you don't have that dip. Sometimes you'll have a team that wins, and then there's this dip. And then they come back, win again. I would say Patriots definitely a dynasty. Yeah, Dale.
Do you want to know what the longest continuous dynasty in history is?
Ming. The Ming Dynasty.
Yeah, they were on a run, man.
Yao Ming Dynasty.
They're up there, but it's actually the Imperial House of Japan, the Yamato Dynasty. Longest continuous by blood dynasty. Over 1,500 years. See the Patriots touch that one.
And how many years were they favored, though? I think most of those years. Yeah, it sounds like that. I saw where the Arizona Cardinals aren't favored in any game this year. That's a left turn. Segway.
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Chapter 4: How does Mike Tirico view the Thunder's potential dynasty status?
Is it the repeat nature of titles that's a bigger factor? Like if you win like every other year for six years, while there's no repeats or three-peats or anything, does that still feel like a dynasty? I mean, it should be, but.
Well, it depends on the sport. Like Seattle's not favored to win the Super Bowl this year. They got maybe the third or fourth best odds. But if they did, I mean, that's really, really, really rare.
Yeah, Paulie. The 70 Steelers won the Super Bowl in 74 and 75. They made the playoffs and did not make it to the Super Bowl the next two years. Then they won two more Super Bowls. That's four titles in six years. Pure dynasty.
Yeah, and we remember those players. When you can recite the lineup, then that usually helps you kind of lean towards that impression, that imprint that they left on your life, on the sports world. Yes, Marvin.
And there's sometimes when people say dynasties, you have to repeat. I don't subscribe to that because look at the Bird Celtics.
They won in 81, 84, and 86. But we consider them a dynasty because they were always there. They were always in the hunt. And the teams they lost to, they lost to the Lakers. So there's no shame in that, and they were always competitive. Yeah, I think that's what I want to see is you don't want to have that, oh, what happened? Oh, they didn't make the playoffs. One season, then they came back.
But it's harder to keep a team together. I mean, the Celtics weren't leaving with Bill Russell and Red Auerbach. Those guys stayed. There was no free agency. The Steelers, they stayed together. You have to look at before free agency and after free agency and trying to keep your players together. Yes, Mark.
If the Thunder win their second straight, will we look at them the way we look at the Pistons? We don't think of the Pistons as being a really deep, really good, really competitive team. We look at them, Mahorn and Lambert getting in the fights, roughing up Michael Jordan. Are we going to look at them the same way we look at the Pistons? Well, the Pistons had personality.
OKC doesn't have a real personality, a big personality. I mean, they tried to do an SGA Chet Holmgren commercial. And you're like, OK. Like the Pistons were the bad boys. They were the villains. There was a documentary about them. They did a 30 for 30 on them. See, will there be a 30 for 30 on OKC? You got a better chance of a 30 for 30 on Wemby and the Spurs.
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Chapter 5: What are the challenges faced by small market teams in the NBA?
Yeah, I think having those players locked in under contract moving forward is key. Well, those big three in J-Dub, Jalen Williams, and Holmgren, and Shea, but now with those first-round picks that he has, you can do things like trade a one and three twos for Jared McCain.
Nobody had that capital to go get a second-year player who Philadelphia said, you know what, we can't play three guards with Tyrese Maxey and B.J. Edgecombe and McCain, so let's move him while his value is high. And if Sam doesn't make that move, with these injuries they have, maybe they're not 3-2 in this series, right?
So those are the ways you can build something that lasts for a long time in an era where that's really hard financially to do because of paying all the, look, you draft well, you have to pay these guys. And then that's a problem. I think of the Lions and the NFL. They've really drafted well the last few years with a bunch of young core players. Now you've got to pay them all.
And so every time there's another edge rusher out there, Lions fans are like, well, why don't you go get in? Well, you can't. You just don't have enough financial room. How big of a story is Wemby skipping out on the media? I don't know what happened at the end of the game, Mike, but I don't know if that's a big deal tonight for you guys in leading into game six.
It's a watch early in the game, right? You'll watch early in the game. Are there more hard fouls? Is there some message sent? I think, Dan, and you know, you live so many of these series. Gosh, we sat next to each other during some of the finals runs where we were both working radio and doing SportsCenter over the years. Like, you carry a tone to the next game, but it changes just like this.
And I think it's different when veterans are the guys who are out there setting that tone. Young guys have a lot going on. They have never, half the San Antonio team, probably two-thirds of their rotation, have never faced an elimination game in the NBA playoffs, right? Think about it.
It's the first playoff series for Wemby and Castle and all those guys that we've talked about, Dylan Harper and even Vassell. They did not face elimination in the first two rounds. They are facing an elimination game. They will walk into the game today with a feeling of pressure, of must-win that they never have before, except in the NBA Cup in December, where you knew there were tomorrows.
Here, you don't. So I think it's really hard to have that and be of the mindset of, let's set this hard foul on this guy. So I don't know if it carries over one to the next. Wenby not talking, not the first time, not the last time. Somebody skipped out on the media. Like first-timers, before he gets warned, he'll get fined if he does it again. Lesson learned, I would guess.
Talking to Mike Chirico, and he'll be on the call tonight. Game 6, Western Conference Finals, Thunder Spurs, with Reggie Miller and Jamal Crawford. Tip-off 8.30 Eastern on NBC and Peacock. I watched a little bit of WNBA action with Caitlin Clark, and I was trying to juxtapose that with the NBA. And it feels like there's more play on moments in the WNBA than there is the NBA.
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Chapter 6: How does the concept of a dynasty differ across sports?
Not shave. And watch Bream and those guys work for a couple of weeks. I'm looking forward to the finals. Will you go to a game? No. Whenever this ends, either tonight or game seven on Saturday, that's the end of the run that started in September with Sunday Night Football and then Olympics and Super Bowl and started the NBA for us at NBC. And so this is the last 365 yards of the marathon.
So I am going to go home. and chill until the u.s open in a couple weeks and then chill after that but uh i will i will enjoy watching for sure do you have broadcasting superstitions on game day No, no, not really. I have patterns and habits, but it's not like, oh, my gosh, if I don't eat a Caesar salad with chicken, this is going to be a bad broadcast.
Although although with Reggie Miller and Zora Stevenson, we have ordered more Caesars with chicken in NBA arenas than than most people over the last two. But this has been I forgot how much fun the NBA is. This has been so much fun. And Reg and Jamal and Zora and Ashley Chamity, we have had the greatest time.
If there's anything I'm rooting for tonight, I'd love to get us to a game seven because I'd love to do two more days with this group. We've had a blast. And you have Reggie on every week, so everybody knows how fun Reg can be. I mean, two weeks on the road with Reg, that really three and a half weeks has been just all-time fun and Jamal the same. So it's been great.
I think Jamal has been unbelievable. He's great. Dan, his stories, his vision, what he sees in the game is really good. And, you know, three man booths work or don't work based on a ton of things. These guys are so giving and they talk to each other. We go a couple of possessions and they're going back and forth and back and forth. I'm just sitting there listening to them.
There's no reason to get in the way of this. And that starts in the car. It happens at lunch. It continues on the air. And that's when you have something good. So I'm having the greatest time. And shout out to these two cities. They'll be the small market against the big market. But, man, like I have a headache.
My ears ring for 30 minutes coming out of the building because your headphones are cranked up because you can't hear each other. And it's so ā this has been so much fun. It's been great. Before I let you go, the NFL growth here. I know now it feels like we're kicking Sunday 1 o'clock games to the curb. Yeah, yeah. But I understand it because I'll watch one game at 1 o'clock.
I'll watch a 4.30 game, occasionally the red zone, but then you watch a standalone game on Sunday and a standalone game on Monday and a standalone game. This is what all of these different partners want. But where do you stand on sort of the, I don't know if you say the fragmentation of what used to be the NFL schedule and where we're headed? I used to get frustrated. I go back to 40 years ago.
I'd get really frustrated that I couldn't watch the Bengals play at 1 o'clock when they weren't all that good, or even when they were halfway decent. Pick a team, because I like football. So, you know, having four or five games in the one o'clock window, still fine. There are weeks it gets thin. There are weeks towards the end it gets thin.
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Chapter 7: What defines the success of the OKC Thunder in the current NBA season?
Nobody even wants to hear about your story. And the more I travel, the more I feel like it humbles me in the best of ways. And I had a terrible during the course of my career. You get it. You develop a terrible ego. An awful ego. And even though I come off as I can act like I have humility, inside I thought I was special. And just the traveling alone reminded me that you're not special at all.
Get in line. When I was in a line for 75 minutes outside of a taco stand or a coffee shop or something, and I'm standing there like everybody else, and I'm thinking, if I was back home, I'd be able to call in and get to the front of the line.
Right?
They're like, dude, beat it. Where was the strangest place you were recognized? you know, some places in Europe, you cross paths with people, but almost nowhere. And that was such a gift. I mean, I'm not a famous person and I played in a small market, but to be able to just really be left be, and it was just the constant reminder of how unspecial you are. It was being shoved in the subway.
You know, you're in Mexico City or you're in Tokyo and people are hissing at you because of like, Because you're too much in their space or you're stepping on their foot or your bag should be between your legs. It was just a constant reminder of, dude, you couldn't be less special.
But the amazing part, you were wearing your Cincinnati Reds uniform when you were traveling and nobody recognized you. Wow. Eye black. My number on the back. Are we taking Otani for granted sometimes? He hasn't even gotten hot. I know that he's had a really nice start to the pitching side of things, but offensively, I don't even sense that.
And I was reading that he's still not satisfied, but I saw some stuff yesterday in his swings that tell me we really need And I don't like using hyperbole. I think I'm going to try to, in the course of my media career, to be as tame as possible. But I really think we might be in the middle of one of, if not the greatest season in the history of baseball.
And I say that because, first of all, most of the all-time great seasons have asterisks slash question marks. And the other few... were before integration was even a part of the game. And so the extreme ends of greatness were mitigated because integration was a part of the game. And he's playing against the very, very best in the world now.
So to me, I think we have a chance to see one of the great seasons of all time. It feels like the Cy Young is really important to him. And I mean, he's got, I don't know if you say unfair advantage. He created the unfair advantage that he gets to hit and pitch at a very high level. He's going to win another MVP this year. right? Nothing's for sure.
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