Dave Arnold joins Dave Chang and Chris Ying to talk about fat washing, which leads to a conversation about the merits of originality and innovation in the culinary world. Dave Arnold deciphers fancy-sounding bartending techniques and gives his “bar test” that he uses to determine whether a bar’s cocktails are worth ordering. Plus: an all-time rant about foams on cocktails, and top five fruits including the best pears money can buy.Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Dave Arnold Producer: Victoria Valencia, Cory McConnell, Gabi Marler, and Euno Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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