Can Biden Win? A Look at the Democratic Party & the Upcoming Election
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What is the episode about and who are the guests introduced?
Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Don Lemon Show. I hope you're having a fantastic 4th of July weekend. We are working on this 4th of July weekend, and you can see us. We're working, and Richard is working so hard. He's in his car on his way between jobs and between barbecues or whatever he's doing. That is Richard Green you're seeing at the bottom. Because he's in a car, I figured I had to... First, he is a democratic strategist, political communication strategist and a civics educator and also a lawyer. And then we have the very smart and talented and really accomplished Andrea Katz. She is an associate professor of law at Washington University School of Law in St. Louis or in my old hometown. As they basically call it, Warsh U there.
She teaches and writes about constitutional law with a specific focus on presidential power. She also has more accomplishments beyond that, the Harvard Law Review Forum, the Texas Law Review, the Columbia Law Review. Her work has appeared in all of those. Did I get it right, Andrea? Yeah.
Nailed it.
I nailed it.
Okay.
Okay. So thank you all. Listen, I really appreciate you joining us. We are in unprecedented times. As Andrea and I were talking before we started recording this, before the camera started rolling, is that we don't know what to think. Andrea, do we know what to think? Even in history, have we ever had anything quite like this?
No, I was saying I think the closest, you know, like I work on the history of the presidency. I don't think there's been an election like this. I think even before the debate, these were two of the most flawed candidates we've ever had in history. I think, again, I want to go on the record. I think Biden has been quite a solid president, but he's old. And now, you know... with the calls to step down and everything, it's totally unprecedented. I think the closest parallel we've got is Lyndon Johnson on his own volition stepping down And I think it was March 1968. But very different circumstances. He was actually, you know, really busy in, you know, conducting the war, didn't want to spend time campaigning, realized that the issue was splitting his party.
And just, you know, he said, you know, in one of his biographies, he said, I want out of this cage. OK, Biden doesn't want out of the cage. So it's really apples and oranges, I think. And after Johnson steps down, the Democratic Party is in total chaos for the rest of the summer. So.
Yeah. But so Biden doesn't want out of his cage. But I mean, do you do you think that do you think it's the right thing to do? I don't know. You know, if you want to answer that question for him, it's only up to him. But it doesn't seem like he has the momentum and he doesn't really have the support of his party, Andrea.
Yeah. I think this is more a question for Richard. I mean, I'm happy to take a stab. I feel like in this election cycle, we all have the collective memory of a goldfish. You know, initially I thought this is going to come and go. You know, I've written before about how the presidency is not one man. We have all this sort of, you know, kind of mythos about the buck stops here and everything like that. I think Biden is completely capable of doing the job. I honestly do. But I think if the narrative doesn't go away that he's too old, then yeah, I mean.
Yeah. Richard, Andrea said it, you know, you're probably better at answering that question, but where do we go from here? And, you know, and all the question with all the things.
Right. First of all, I want to agree with Andrea. I think Joe Biden has been a spectacular president and, shockingly progressive, shockingly productive in a very, very tough town and tough environment. He's accomplished so much, but he has one job. Right. He saved America from Donald Trump four years ago. And that is his number one job. Is he the guy who can prevent Donald Trump and Project 2025 from fundamentally changing our system of government and life in our country? And I think the jury is out. I mean, I think. you can look at every possible criterion about Biden versus Trump and versus blah, blah, blah.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is the episode about and who are the guests introduced?
0:12–6:31
2
How unprecedented is this 2024 election compared to past presidential contests?
6:31–10:41
3
Should President Biden step down after the debate — what are the arguments?
10:41–21:21
4
Can Joe Biden still convince voters and regain momentum before the convention?
21:21–40:19
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