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The Don Lemon Show

HOT TOPICS | MAGA BACKSTABBER ALERT: They Are Turning On Each Other!

28 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What recent events have caused tensions within the MAGA movement?

18.29 - 40.012 Don Lemon

Good morning, Lemonheads, Lemon Nation, a big stretch. Last night was a doozy for me. Hold on one second. Hey, Siri, turn on Do Not Disturb. Last night was a doozy because my little senior doggy Gus Gus is usually wandering around here somewhere. I just had a rough night. If you have a senior dog, you know what I'm talking about. They get grumpy at night sometimes.

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40.072 - 62.304 Don Lemon

I don't know what's going on with them, but hey, you love them. You got to do whatever. So anyway, not much sleep last night, but I'm glad he's still here. You know, you guys remember he's the one that had pneumonia not this past Christmas, but the holiday before. we didn't think he was going to make it, but he is still here.

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62.885 - 85.087 Don Lemon

He's still roaming around and driving us crazy, but you know, we love it. Okay. So there's a dog in the background. That's Boomer. And even if I call him Boomer, he won't come. He's just chilling. He's like, do your work. It's really weird. The dogs know the routine. Like they know when I'm getting ready to work. They know when I'm going out.

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85.328 - 109.097 Don Lemon

They try to follow us sometimes if we go out during the day, but then in the evening, they know we're going out to dinner. They don't even try. It's like they're so smart, right? Yep. So anyways, welcome everybody to the show. First order of business, make sure you hit the like, make sure you hit the thumbs up because it does affect the algorithm. Do you guys hear that? Can you guys hear that?

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109.87 - 131.87 Don Lemon

yeah i can hear it you know what that is right radiator it's a radiator if you live in new york you you know that means the heat's coming up and it's a little chilly in here so that's a good thing you guys know that sound when you the when the water or the steam is coming up or whatever it is yep heard the radiator and there it is it's clicked in and Yeah, I feel like getting warm.

132.19 - 150.091 Don Lemon

So anyways, and that's why when you guys, when I'm always clearing my throat or blowing my nose, it's because also these radiators are so dry. So you have to have a humidifier, but I don't know if there's a humidifier big enough to take care of that. So anyways, like and thumbs up. It affects you. Put the like and subscribe thing up for me, Andy. It does affect the algorithm, please.

150.832 - 173.948 Don Lemon

And more people become aware of our content. So that little thumb, it looks like that on the YouTube, okay? And so make sure you hit that. And it is I think it's when it's dark on the thing. That's that means that's when you hit it. OK, so don't hit it twice because then you undo it. But there you go. So like and subscribe. Also, Andy, let's just tell folks why we're here since we're here.

174.282 - 179.931 Don Lemon

I see someone saying something about my old network and a lot of people agree.

Chapter 2: How are Kristi Noem and Stephen Miller involved in the blame game?

181.153 - 199.303 Don Lemon

Since we are here, I just want to tell you guys so that we don't wait till the end of the show and maybe we'll do it again. But we are nominated on this show for four awards. in double ACP image awards, which is a very big deal. And so, look, it's a big deal that we're nominated, but yet we'd like to win. Yes. Is it going to be a tough climb? I'll tell you.

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199.343 - 218.032 Don Lemon

Yeah, because we're going up against major broadcast networks who have millions and millions of eyes on them every day and on their websites and on their broadcasting and the radio and on their their own cable, whatever. And they can promote people because this is by vote. But, you know, we're the little engine that could. We're David. They're Goliath. And so perhaps we can we stand a chance.

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218.072 - 235.771 Don Lemon

So all you have to do is go to Don Lemon dot com. Here it is. Don Lemon dot com. And it just in order as we have them. So you go to Don Lemon dot com and you click on one where it says outstanding podcast. And look, every 24 hours of reset. So there you go. So we can vote again. So you hit vote. Right.

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And then you go back out to Don Lemon dot com and you go to two and it's outstanding podcast news and information. And then you hit vote and that turns it red or orange or yeah.

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245.021 - 269.832 Don Lemon

And then you go back to donlemon.com you hit three outstanding news and information series a special and you hit vote and then you back out to donlemon.com and then you hit four outstanding host in a talk or news information and then you hit Don turns it red and then you go back out to donlemon.com and then you go to five and you scroll all the way to the bottom

270.807 - 292.63 Don Lemon

to the register or whatever, submit now. And you hit submit now, and then it will, see that box pops up and you can check. If you scroll through, scroll through, Andy, in that top box, and you can see, like, are these the ones you want? And it says all four say Don Lemon, make sure they're four, six, and they say Don Lemon. And then you hit submit.

292.913 - 314.435 Don Lemon

And I think you have to put in your email or something and look, and you can do it every 24 hours. It resets. You hit submit and then there you go. It will set. Okay. So thank you so much. I appreciate that. And also remember on February 3rd and 4th, man, I'm going to be traveling so crazy. February 3rd and 4th, DL Hughley and I are going to be at City Winery. You can go to Donlemon.com as well.

314.455 - 341.668 Don Lemon

And you can click on there and get some tickets. Atlanta is sold out on the 17th and 18th and our tour is coming up. Okay, so do that back to Donlemon.com. Also, if you want to know where I get this, that is on our merch page on this thing. So that's our mug. And then people ask me about my, this is a Stanley, right? So I have a hot tea in there, but this is what we call the Donley on the program.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of the federal shootings in Minneapolis?

342.897 - 366.269 Don Lemon

They were sold out, I'm not sure. But I keep my cold water in that one, okay? So there you go. So thank you guys for joining. I really appreciate it. I hope you're having a great day. Okay. No sooner did we have like, oh, this is gonna be a kumbaya. Oh my gosh, kumbaya. Let me know where you're streaming from, by the way. Someone says, I'm drinking out of my down lemon mug now. That's great.

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366.369 - 393.171 Don Lemon

Thank you so much. I got to get my old people be known mug okay so no sooner do we have like it looks like not necessarily a truce but some sort of where it was gonna they were gonna rejigger or like at least try to work together uh in Minnesota and no that's not happening but should I do it did you guys get the thing that Peter said he was gonna get for me just in case

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394.079 - 395.741 Stephen Miller

No, we don't have it yet.

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396.241 - 418.182 Don Lemon

Okay, I'll do it. The girls are fighting! Put the thumbnail up. The girls are fighting. And you know who's fighting? Kristi Noem and Stephen Miller are fighting. And that's what we have on the thumbnail. Backstabbers or whatever it is that we have on the thumbnail. They are fighting. I mean, it is juicy. So if you guys don't have some tea, we're going to give you the tea this morning.

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418.302 - 442.95 Don Lemon

I'm going to pour some more tea in my thing. Stephen Miller and Kristi Noem are... Y'all hear that? My tea. The tea is pouring. Stephen Miller and Kristi Noem are like this. No, you. No, you. No, it was you. No, it's you. No, it's you. I did not say it was you. They are fighting. Backstabber alert. Turning on their own. And guess who's right in the middle?

443.651 - 462.578 Don Lemon

The head honcho who starts all the fighting. Mm. That's crazy. I wonder who's going to get the most, who's going to be smeared the most with like lipstick or hair products. I don't know if you guys remember this. Before Stephen Miller decided to shave his head, do you guys remember that? And he had that little hair around here.

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And then he would fill the top end with topics, you know, like the little powder or the stuff that you put on your hair to make it dark.

Chapter 4: How is the Trump administration responding to bipartisan criticism?

471.451 - 476.078 Don Lemon

And then when he was standing out in the rain one day doing a live shot and his...

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478.268 - 499.318 Don Lemon

his hair started to melt you guys remember that anybody see if you can find that producers when stephen miller's hair melts in the rain you guys remember thank you someone else remembers that right um there's someone in the chat says i remember that like rudy giuliani when he was standing there and like the orange and black was like pouring down his face okay Steven had enhancements.

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499.378 - 512.202 Don Lemon

I don't know if he had enhancements, but I remember when his hair melted. And, you know, Kristi Noem has had enhancements because if you've seen the picture of her before and after, then you know. But she's always with a face full of makeup and preening and pruning.

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512.522 - 533.895 Don Lemon

And as a matter of fact, the New York Post said yesterday she needs to stop her, I guess what they call her, they kind of said preening and pruning and pruning. and her photo ops and all that, where she goes out and she's on the horse or she's on the jet ski or whatever it is, on the boat. I mean, look at her. So I wonder who would get all smudged up.

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534.776 - 544.929 Don Lemon

It would be like Alexis and Crystal in the lily pond. What was the name of their house in Denver?

546.15 - 547.452 Ilhan Omar

Fighting.

547.472 - 570.914 Don Lemon

Fighting. i mean fighting so let's start off with the fighting part okay let's see what do we have do we have a headline so they are blaming each other i think it's the axios report there's an axios report about how they're fighting and it's mark caputo mark caputo is putting it is Great journalism, Mark Caputo. Mark, we're trying to get you.

571.435 - 591.129 Don Lemon

Blame game erupts over Trump team's false claim Alex Preddy sought massacre. And this is Mark Caputo. And so let's read in a little bit. We will read in and then we're going to give you a report. A report that really sums it up with the Aaron Burnett, my friend, over on the CNN.

591.51 - 606.563 Don Lemon

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem is under fire for issuing misleading and incendiary information that claimed immigration agents killed an armed Minnesota protester Saturday because he wanted to massacre them. That language has now become a source of controversy in the Trump administration.

Chapter 5: What does the term 'backstabber alert' signify in this context?

730.095 - 752.355 Don Lemon

So here's where they're zooming in. Immediately after Freddie was fatally shot in Minneapolis about 10.05 a.m. Eastern time on Saturday, administration officials in Washington knew they had a potential disaster on their hands but had little information. The officers directly involved in the shooting all shut up and got lawyers real quick. So there wasn't a lot of information.

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752.375 - 778.433 Don Lemon

One source briefed on the statement said, they got lawyers real quick, huh? but they're not allowing other people to investigate, but they were able. Here's the thing. They were able to do what? They have the right to, not that they were arrested, but the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be held against you in a court of law. Okay, so they are what?

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779.755 - 818.478 Don Lemon

Entitled to and are receiving their due process rights. The exact same thing that they are denying many of the people, if not most, that they are rounding up. So it is justice, the Constitution, and due process for me, but not for thee. Do you guys feel me, what I'm saying? Why are they getting lawyers if they, thank you very much, SoCoKid. Soka kid, which I think is South California kid.

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819.099 - 834.474 Don Lemon

Why, if they are, if they have complete immunity, why are they getting attorneys? If they didn't do anything wrong, you know, like, look, they have the right to. Maybe they knew this was coming. So they have every right to get an attorney. People would say, all right, it's pretty smart to do that.

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834.494 - 861.429 Don Lemon

But what I'm saying is, why are you allowed your due process rights to get an attorney, not to say anything, to take the fifth, all those things, but the very people you are out there rounding up, you are not doing that for them. That's why you're in this trouble. Now that I say to you, karma's a bitch. I know it's a cliche. And what's done in darkness will always come to light.

861.509 - 883.71 Don Lemon

I mean, some of it's done in darkness, but the shit you're doing in the light is going to get more light on it, a big spotlight on it, the sunshine. So they know that they fucked up. And that's why they went and got an attorney, Stephen Croons, who's just on the thing, says because they're guilty. Look, I don't know if they seem like they are. If you look at the video, that's what it shows.

885.817 - 899.713 Don Lemon

So all of them shut up real quick, and then they're not allowing local and state investigators any of their, they're not giving them access to any of the information. They're not allowing them to investigate. What kind of shit is that? That's not how it was supposed to work.

900.754 - 935.698 Don Lemon

The CBP officers on the ground furnished a report that White House officials told Axios left officials with the belief that Freddie had brandished a gun. Now, when you are, when you come from A rogue administration or a rogue regime, I like the alliteration, rogue regime, and lying is part of the, what do they say? It's not the whatever, it's not the glitch, it's the whatever it is.

937.58 - 957.882 Don Lemon

That's what this is, that's what lying is part of. Miller heard gun, Miller heard, gun and knew what the narrative would be. Pretty came to massacre cops. A source briefed on the process of assembling the press statement said, now you guys know I've been going over it saying, you know they went over this.

Chapter 6: What are the consequences of misinformation in political statements?

968.051 - 990.962 Don Lemon

Sorry, producers. And so the process of assembling a press statement said that Miller, now, I would not, it would not, I would not be beyond him to do something like this if you have heard him speak and if you have had any interaction or encounters with him. Miller heard gun. and knew what the narrative would be.

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991.523 - 1017.529 Don Lemon

Pretty came to massacre cops, a source briefed on the process of assembling the press statement said. Any early comments made were based on information sent to the White House through CBP, Customs and Border Patrol. Miller told Axios in response to an earlier version of this story in which others blamed him for the massacre statement. For the massacre statements.

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1019.517 - 1028.335 Don Lemon

You can show the stuff, the videos of them mocking him or whatever. So let's, this is, let's see the Stephen Miller. Let's see the Stephen Miller hair thing.

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1030.038 - 1031.321 Stephen Miller

Do we have the cold bear one?

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1031.722 - 1042.238 Don Lemon

Sure. Why not? I know they're joking around with him, but let's see it. Because it did happen. I just want to ship proof that it happened. Also, the one from Anderson Cooper, if you haven't. I'll get back to it. From the 360 of him.

1042.278 - 1067.304 Unknown

Now, folks, we haven't heard a lot lately from White House senior advisor and man who someday neighbors will describe as a quiet guy kept to himself. Stephen Miller. But this weekend, Miller emerged from his secret lair for an interview on Face the Nation. He started out by enforcing the administration's strict rules on holiday greetings. Good to have you here in studio.

1067.664 - 1069.166 Ilhan Omar

It's great to be here. Thank you. Merry Christmas.

1069.346 - 1089.145 Unknown

And Merry Christmas to you. Miller's not exactly a people person, but he's trying to make a connection. Merry Christmas. What a warm holiday feeling we mutually have, parumpapumpum. Now, Trump has been threatening to shut down the government for a while over the border wall, and Miller defended it and then went off on some judges.

1089.886 - 1102.142 Ilhan Omar

We're going to do whatever is necessary to build the border wall to stop this ongoing crisis of illegal immigration. This is a very, if it comes to it, absolutely. One of the great tragedies that is going on in our country today.

Chapter 7: How are Republican leaders reacting to the chaos within the administration?

1142.898 - 1143.379 Don Lemon

Keep going.

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1144.12 - 1169.349 Unknown

He sang over the sound of you looking at his sprayed-on hair. He looks like Eddie Munster and the Count from Sesame Street had a baby, and then the baby went bald. Now, as a reminder, this is how Stephen Miller normally looks. There has not been a right-wing propagandist with fake hair that obvious since Joseph Goebbels tried to weave.

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1169.409 - 1179.09 Unknown

I got to salute the hair and makeup team over at Face the Nation. Because, you know, before he went on the air, he turned to them and said, how do I look?

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1179.711 - 1181.776 Don Lemon

Um, good.

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Good.

1183.255 - 1184.597 Unknown

You look good.

1186.078 - 1209.253 Don Lemon

So I thought we would find it. But I mean, there is actually something I do believe his hair was melting during a live shot. But anyways, I digress. So he's saying in this Axios report, they're saying that was a nice little fun break there in this Axios report. They are saying Stephen Miller is responding, saying he was the one. Right. That everything had been approved. Put it back up.

1209.273 - 1223.872 Don Lemon

Let's put the thing up, the report that everything had been approved through. Yeah. His report said others within the White House attempted to clean up the DHS. Now, what is the part about Stephen Miller? Is that back a little bit? There we go. There we go.

1224.252 - 1246.977 Don Lemon

And earlier comments were made based on information sent to the White House through CBP, military access and response to an earlier version of the story. OK, so were they not on the same page? Because it sure seems like Bovino and Kristi Noem were speaking directly from the exact same script. Roll it. An individual approached U.S.

Chapter 8: What does this episode reveal about accountability in politics?

1331.865 - 1355.69 Don Lemon

This is Stephen Miller, right? Responding to Chris Murphy, who's saying ICE must leave Minneapolis. Congress should not fund this version of ICE. That is seeking confirmation, chaos, and dystopia. Okay. And then Stephen Miller responds to that. And then J.D. Vance, by the way, retweets, reposted it. An assassin tried to murder federal agents, and this is your response.

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1357.913 - 1387.446 Don Lemon

Now, was that approved by CBP? Stephen Miller, for you to call the man an assassin, was that approved? Everything, go back to Axios, please. Everything in this administration, there's always videotape or a tweet that contradicts what they're saying. The same thing is when Caroline Levitt gets up there every day and says, lie, lie, lie. But Caroline, go, Bob. And you're like, wait a minute.

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1387.466 - 1407.676 Don Lemon

I said, Bob, you're done. They should just shut up and let the person say, no, Bob is not finished, Caroline. Well, you don't want to go or whatever? Okay, well, I want to ask Bob's question. Bob, what's your question? And then every day do that until she gets frustrated and she has to walk away. And then they will come up with some sort of strategy for follow-ups because they like that show.

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1408.097 - 1426.877 Don Lemon

They don't want to shut that show down. That's what the reporters don't understand. Because if you challenge them every single day, thank you, Stephen Crooms, for your generosity of gifting a membership. You can gift memberships. If you're already a member, you can gift a membership. So thank you. Gift memberships. And people do it all the time, especially my legends. Thank you so much.

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1426.897 - 1449.068 Don Lemon

I appreciate it. Maureen and others. Okay. So, yeah, you know, all they have to do is if they keep doing that every single day, They will get frustrated and the White House will have to figure out some sort of way to respond or to rejigger so that people will take follow-up questions, but they're afraid to do it.

1450.791 - 1472.945 Don Lemon

And they don't want to shut that show down, that dog and pony show down, because that's part of the show rundown every day that they're putting on. It's like Celebrity White House. And if you deny them that part of the show, they're going to go, oh, shit. What do we do? We just can't have the sycophants in there because there's not enough drama. There's not enough back and forth.

1473.647 - 1498.888 Don Lemon

And they need the back and forth. So either you allow our... follow-ups, and we're out. We could get better reporting without you. We don't need you to tell us every day and be stenographers for what you say. Nobody cares. What she says plays well in the Fox News world, and it gets people all riled up, but it never means anything.

1500.05 - 1520.168 Don Lemon

think about it does it never means anything and it never sticks so what is the point because five minutes later in the other part of the show the next after and after the break donald trump in the oval office for another dog and pony show right so That's the thing that penetrates because he says something stupid. He fights with Zelensky. He calls a reporter dumb.

1520.969 - 1542.409 Don Lemon

He contradicts what Caroline Leavitt says, or he says something that where they all have to clean up. So that part, perhaps you should, they should keep that part in because he's, but then what is, does that ever stick? And then don't forget. Okay. Well today on this episode, after the break, we're going to go, he's going to walk to the helicopter. He's going to give you another show.

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