LEMON DROP | Kahlil Greene on Birthright Citizenship, Juneteenth, & Pride
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
We have such a great guest today, Khalil Green, who is the I call him Mr. Gen Z, but he's a Gen Z historian. So, look, I've been speaking to attorneys. I just recently spoke to an attorney who said he cannot believe how judges or how biased judges are. And he actually said quite racist as it relates to justice. what's happening with immigration and the deportation of citizens, not necessarily who are here illegally, or even some citizens who are documented citizens, documented in this country, or permanent residents, etc.
How does the Supreme Court ruling threaten birthright citizenship and who is at risk?
And this seems to me, you know, this fits into that same thing. You said that you hope that there is a case that you can litigate, but when you have the Supreme Court who is, you know, basically Donald Trump has them in his pocket. Do you really have much hope that a case that, you know, that litigating a case perhaps in the future would change anything?
I want to say I do. I mean, I hope that they have some respect for the Constitution. But obviously, we've seen them just destroy decisions that were sort of thought to be established like Roe v. Wade. But the birthright citizenship, I mean, it's even older than that. So one might hope that they would upkeep the sort of longstanding tradition that's there. But you never know. I mean, something that can provide some semblance of comfort is always reading the dissenting voices. So in this case, Sonia Sotomayor, as well as Katonji Brown Jackson, they all had dissenting views and they outlined why this was wrong. So I think in those sort of words, we can find the arguments that might be brought up later on, but we can only see if the conservatives will sort of come to their right senses.
I had a friend and a former colleague on recently who is an immigration advocate, and she was crying on my show live. And she said, this is not the America that my family came over here to. to live in, right, for opportunity. This is an America that many immigrants now, documented or otherwise, don't know. But unfortunately, this is the America that we're living in right now. Can you imagine what immigrants are feeling in this country, especially Latino immigrants?
Yeah, I mean, they're feeling scared. And I think the thing that we should all be aware of is it expands. So originally, Trump said that he was only going to deport the illegal or the undocumented immigrants who are violent or criminals. And then it expands to sort of anyone who had political opinions that were against the administration. And then it just expands to anyone who wasn't documented. And then now it's expanding to people who had, in theory, who had their citizenship through being born here, but their parents weren't So we're just seeing that that sort of the target expanding to so many people. And you never I mean, I don't think just immigrants should be scared. I think everyone should be scared because that's how it starts.
It's gradual. But then all of a sudden it feels like anyone who's a opponent of Trump can be on the chopping block.
Why do you say anyone should be scared, not just immigrants?
Well, it goes back to that timely quote of, I can't remember who it starts with, but it's like, first they came for the Jews, but I didn't speak up because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the communists and so on and so forth. And when we look at the history of authoritarian regimes, they always start with demonizing the people that A majority can get behind, right? So a majority of conservative and Republican base could get behind deporting illegal immigrants, as he calls them, violent legal immigrants who are undocumented people with criminal records. And then there's less of a pushback there. And as you go and as you become more gradual, there's less and less protests and less and less fighting against it.
And that's how it works. You can't just start by attacking everyone. You have to be strategic with it. And the Republican Party and conservatives are being very strategic with their sort of deplorable actions and their unconstitutional actions.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:13–0:48
2
How does the Supreme Court ruling threaten birthright citizenship and who is at risk?
0:48–5:26
3
Why might litigation fail to restore birthright citizenship under the current Supreme Court?
5:26–13:20
4
How has the Trump administration expanded immigration enforcement and who could be targeted next?
13:20–24:21
5
Why do some MAGA supporters accept exclusionary legal interpretations of the Constitution?
24:21–32:33
6
How are Juneteenth and the 14th Amendment historically connected to citizenship and racial justice?
32:33–43:17
Speakers
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