Chapter 1: How should I address past addictions before marriage?
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From the oldest of five kids, the youngest three all have special needs. My brother, he has a physical condition, so he can't do a whole lot. So they basically gave me the responsibility of making sure that he didn't break bones.
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. That is an insane job to give to a six-year-old. That's madness. Yo, yo, yo, what's up? This is Don Jaloney. Just kidding. This is John Deloney with the Dr. John Deloney Show. Taking your calls on your mental and emotional health and your relationships, your marriages, your dating life, whatever you got going on.
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Chapter 2: What should I do if my spouse comes out as gay?
Yeah. No, no, no, no. I don't want you to hear that. I want you to feel that. That is an insane job to give to a six year old or a nine year old or a 14 year old. Hmm. That's madness.
Hmm. It's a madness. It was similar too. So my, one of them, one of my brothers has real bone disease. So he breaks bones really easy. And the other two, we, my parents adopted the youngest to have FASD. And it was kind of, we were all homeschooled growing up and it was kind of, When dad was gone at work, which he worked a lot, you know, to provide for five kids, three with special needs.
When dad was gone, I was expected to kind of take up the mantle there. What does that mean? I, I would watch over my, um, my siblings and like there was a circumstance where my brother, he actually crazy, crazy coincidence, I guess, but he actually had a tree fall on them. The one with the one with brittle bone disease. So it was me and my, everyone except for my, my dad, what was home and
And mom, my mom grabbed my brother and was able to take him to the emergency room. But I was left in the shock and awe as I was 11 at the time with my three other siblings, like not knowing what to do, not knowing what's even going on. Like when my brother was dead. When he was being taken away, it was pretty extreme. There was lots of medical stuff going on, like, is he going to make it?
And my siblings are thinking the exact same thing, so trying to mediate all that as well.
Well, the fact that you were put in a scary situation, or you're the oldest, you're the 11-year-old, and we've got to take one kid to the ER, and I need you to step up. That's not a crazy thing, right? Because the circumstances are crazy, right?
Exactly, yeah.
But... The fact that you're 20, almost a decade later, and as you're telling this story, I can hear it replaying in your body, in your nervous system. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That tells me an important piece was left out. And that is, you were an 11-year-old not holding things together. You were an 11-year-old who was all alone. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Not just alone for a couple of hours while dad got home, but an 11 year old who was going to be judged for what you did while mom was gone. And why did you let this happen to brother? And why did we, you have two adopted siblings with special needs. Why didn't you fill in the blank with no attention to walking in the door and hugging the 11 year old first and saying, thank God you stepped up.
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Chapter 3: How can I cope with guilt from my past actions?
I'm not that kind of guy. I shouldn't have had those thoughts. I shouldn't have looked at that on the internet. I shouldn't have hit that guy in the parking lot, right? Guilt is a good thing. Shame is an identity.
Well, and I remember very early me and my brother with real bone disease, actually, now that we're kind of becoming adults, we're able to have those kind of more in-depth conversations together. And both of us have struggled like that's been our turn to move very like I remember doing like being involved in that when I was six or seven.
And I remember I didn't want to talk to my dad about it because I knew that he would be exhausted and more than likely flip out. So I went and talked to my mom, who was a very, very loving woman. But both of us remember it exactly the same. When we individually went and talked to my mom about it, for the first time, I've never seen my mom act so crazy before.
And she started blaming us, coming in and attacking us. She wasn't... Like there, she was coming after my brother and I, and I remember after that, it was just like, that was, that was a very big core memory, defining moment.
Okay. And so what you have to commit to doing is not passing that same level of fear. And am I good enough questioning onto your new wife? Yeah. Yeah. gosh, how do I do that? You have to be really intentional.
And it starts with you being honest and saying, if you haven't been already, these are conversations you'll need to have now because they're going to resurface in a million wild ways over the course of your marriage. If you enter into every conversation and every interaction, every tough situation with your fiance in a, oh, you might leave. If you really saw me and knew me, you would leave. Hmm.
That's actually, I was just talking, I'm good friends with my pastor at our church and I was just talking to him on the, the way home from work today. And I was like, I, the part of the conversation is, man, my fiance is feeling really, really distant. What did I do? Like where, like, well, like what's, what's going on? It is like, it immediately turned into fear.
Um, because your mom left you, bro.
Yeah. She just didn't kick you out of the house. When you went to her at the age of freaking six and said, I looked at something that made me feel gross inside. She said emotionally, get away from me. Yeah. And dad just took off.
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Chapter 4: What steps should I take to communicate effectively with my partner?
Yeah. I'm going to seek vitality in life. I'm not just going to sit at home feeling dead in my own skin. Every time my partner gets up, my fiance gets up to go to the bathroom and I feel like, what did I do? What's wrong? Does she not like me anymore? Oh my gosh, what's happening? And the way I can shut that voice off is with pornography or with the drink. Right? Yeah.
That's your, that's, that has to be your path moving forward. But all of that's going to start with a full transparency with her. Hey, I've never told you about what really the kind of the weight I've had to carry. My dad looked at me and put me in charge of his special needs children and made it my responsibility at nine, at 11, that if something happened to them, that was my fault.
It's madness. Madness. When my mom used to leave and have to rush one of my siblings to the emergency room, I got graded on my performance test. not hugged with gratitude. It's madness. I'm sorry that you've had to endure that. You get to decide what kind of man you're going to become next.
And the challenge for you is those two people, the two people that were supposed to be ride or die for you weren't. but you've got to have men and women that are out ahead of you that are ride or die with you. And you're gonna have to go seek them out and you're gonna have to be really courageous and trust again, be honest again. That's your mission, my brother.
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Chapter 5: How do I navigate changing values in a relationship?
We were both good with like, Hey, I beat out twice as many people.
That's like the old chasing game. You're like, dude, I, I, I tried out a hundred percent of the field and you win.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Um, But then, you know, three weeks ago she comes out and says, hey, I'm gay. And so for me, instantly I'm thinking, okay, well, we don't have kids yet. We are in a position where we could separate fairly quickly and easily. What was the context of the coming out? Well, I didn't have a lot. She has been kind of on a journey.
Her mental health has had a lot of ups and downs. And she over the last, you know, we've been married for just over three years now. And I, with me is kind of the first time she's had the emotional safety to do her own exploring of her, of her own identity and inner self.
Um, and so she's been working through that, uh, a lot of it with me, but you know, this part in particular, more so on her own with her therapist. Um, and so she, um, has been embracing more of her queer identity. And that was what prompted her like, Hey, you know, I don't want to hide this from you anymore, Josh.
I want to share this with you that this is, I'm, I'm embracing more of this side of my identity. And apparently that's what she had intended to say. And when it came out with the words, I'm gay, my immediate conclusion was, okay, you're a lesbian. Yeah.
So, but what's the implication for, I'm going to explore this side of my identity. Outside of a, outside of a, and by the way, I spent my entire career with LGBT organizations in higher education, okay? So, like, I've been through this conversation with 18 and 19 and 20 and 21-year-olds and 25-year-olds for two decades.
Like, before it was, it was everyone was talking about it and after everybody was talking, right? I haven't heard this conversation. I'm just going to explore this thing. outside, but not explore it.
Yeah. I mean, and for her, I think she's still figuring out what that means, but the example she brought up and what is still driving me to consider divorce. Because I think if it had been phrased differently, it wouldn't have come up as a consideration. But she also mentioned potentially opening up the relationship. And she was very clear, like, if you say no, it is a hard no.
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Chapter 6: What is the role of honesty in maintaining friendships?
And it hasn't occurred to me. I'm out. So for you, you heard this and then you heard like the, that's not what I meant. I'm sorry. What is it about this moment in time in your relationship with this person that you're saying, yeah, I can't go any further.
I think for me, I want stability in a marriage.
Okay.
And if, and I'm going to come back to the values, not this specific one, but if those values are shifting, I feel like I don't have that stability.
And give me, and you've probably heard me say this on the show a million times. I always say couples have to be aligned in their values, but they can be all over the place with their beliefs. That's fine. Right. What value has shifted?
I mean, she said that she won't do it if I'm not up for it, but just the fact that like, that she's open to the idea. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Okay. And yeah.
What, give me another value. Give me another value. Cause I feel like a lot is hinging on this one, this one exploratory question.
It is, it is.
And that's a big part of my problem and why like, I guess what I'm challenging you is my gut tells me there's something deeper. Or there's something else?
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Chapter 7: How can I confront a friend about their troubling behavior?
Or I'm out to lunch there.
Uh, that is how I feel. I'm not going to say whether it's right or wrong. Cause she, you know, she might, I mean, if we're, if we're so off, off our communication that we had this big of a misunderstanding. I don't want to say that that's correct, but it's how I feel. That's how I feel.
Okay.
You nailed it.
Feelings are part of it. Feelings are some data, but they're not always truth tellers. Our feelings job is not to tell us the truth. They're to keep us safe. So let me ask you the hard, hard question. What is true? Inside your marriage. Because I hear you trying to be open-minded and open-hearted and expansive and forgiving and inclusive.
You're trying to be all of these things, but I want you to be honest about what is true in your marriage.
We are very different people than we were.
The sentence that's in my, in my head is the person you marry no longer exists. Is that too big? Is that too big of a stretch?
We heard that before marriage and like, we're gung ho and embrace like, yeah, you got to choose to love, you know, who you marry and who they're going to be five years from now. And I guess, I guess you don't think about what that actually means when they change.
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Chapter 8: What should I consider when dealing with relationship challenges?
I guess on the outset, as a guy with some old school buddies, I got buddies that are more than 40 years old. Mm-hmm. We got values all over the planet that are different from each other. Especially, we got beliefs all different. But you better believe we pick up the phone and call each other. And I'm wondering how good this friendship was. Yeah. Or maybe it's so blown up.
It's better off if we talk seriously like that, I would say. I mean, I think step one is to call your friend and go, bro. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
For sure. And this might be a stunner. But sometimes girlfriends don't tell the truth, too. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Could there be a chance that that story is just one-sided?
I don't think so. She seemed very sincere when she told me this.
Okay. I think your friend of eight years, almost a decade, is at least worth a phone call to find out. Yeah, certainly. And I guess I'll say this. One of the hardest lessons I've had to learn in my life is that friendships that were ride or die for a decade, for two decades, people grow up and they grow apart. And it's one of the... There's no breakup with your buddies. Right. Right?
I don't know. Like when you break up with a girlfriend, you like... It's just, like, over. Like, we're breaking up. It's, like, all these rules. Like, we don't call each other or text each other or whatever. Or if we get a divorce, there's, like, legal proceedings.
When you have buddies that, like, you got in fights with in elementary school and middle school and high school and y'all did things together and y'all spent the night at each other's houses and y'all went and, like, when suddenly you're like, oh, I didn't know you were that dude. I'm out. There's not a set of rules after that.
Mm-hmm.
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