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The Entrepreneur Experiment

EE498 - Brian Lee: From Chopped to TRYKA’s 10,000-Athlete Launch

14 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 21.575 Brian Lee

What I love about Troika is I love the industry. I love what it represents. I love it inspires, it helps communities. And I never realized how many people it was going to affect and touch until we started this journey. And when you're there around the finish area, strangers are walking up and thanking you for a great event. Thank you for creating Troika.

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21.615 - 26.08 Brian Lee

Like a magical moment for me to say, okay, this is not just another business like before.

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Chapter 2: Why did Brian Lee launch TRYKA after Freshly Chopped?

26.46 - 34.912 Brian Lee

This is something special. And we need to wrap our arms around them, protect it and grow. But we need to grow with the right culture and protect the communities and everything it stands for.

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38.137 - 42.102 Gary Fox

Brian, welcome to the pod. Thank you. Told you I'd get you in the end.

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43.164 - 44.065 Brian Lee

Good things are worth waiting for.

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45.587 - 52.077 Gary Fox

Welcome. I'm delighted to have you. I described you as a serial entrepreneur this morning on my LinkedIn post. How many businesses do you reckon you've started?

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53.859 - 79.228 Brian Lee

Started or succeeded? If I go back, everything is a business to me. Ventures, roughly. Ventures, one, two, probably about seven or eight. One, obviously, that's scaled in my adult years. But during my childhood years or teen years, I would have said there's at least four there. And then my adult years, I say there's another four. That's the thing.

79.809 - 90.719 Gary Fox

People realize, people think, they look at you and go, Trico, what a success. Whereas I was listening to a pod coming in this morning. They were like, everyone wants to view, but no one wants to climb.

92.482 - 114.008 Brian Lee

Yeah, a lot of people say, why do you do it? Why do you want the pressure? Why do you want the hassle? It's kind of like it's a hobby that you love to do. And as much as the challenges are there, it's what gets you up in the morning. And I love going to the gym, but I also love going to work. And as we all say, it's not work if you love it.

114.46 - 123.454 Gary Fox

When did you decide, right, I'm going to combine the two, right? Because a lot of people are just going to start businesses based on a problem they see or whatever, whereas you seem to have combined passion with work.

124.596 - 135.773 Brian Lee

Yeah, well, that only came more recently with Troika. So from my exit from my last business, it really came in a bit of soul searching.

Chapter 3: How does TRYKA cater to the everyday athlete?

135.953 - 163.781 Brian Lee

What am I going to do next? What's my purpose? What am I trying to achieve? And I said, if I want longevity out of what I'm doing, I kind of need to do what I love. And previous businesses, I enjoyed building the brands and that's what I loved doing about them. But I didn't actually love the industry or the business they were. But... What I love about Troika is I love the industry.

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164.221 - 184.849 Brian Lee

I love what it represents. I love it inspires. It helps communities. And I never realized how many people it was going to affect and touch until we started this journey. And when you're there around the Finnish area and strangers are walking up and thanking you for a great event. Thank you for creating Troika. Like that made...

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184.829 - 200.059 Brian Lee

a magical moment for me to say, okay, this is not just another business like before. This is something special. And we need to wrap our arms around and protect it and grow. But we need to grow with the right culture and protect the communities and everything it stands for.

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200.92 - 202.804 Gary Fox

I said something to you there when we were chatting about

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Chapter 4: What strategies helped TRYKA grow to 10,000 athletes in 7 months?

202.784 - 217.74 Gary Fox

the social stories you put out around the events is so cool. People's journey to like complete Trican. It's far more, it's not really a race for them. It's more like the start of a journey or the completion of a big journey for them.

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217.761 - 243.335 Brian Lee

Yeah, like we say internally and it's something we're going to actually start speaking. People basically come as they are, but they leave as more. And the whole brand is built around the word Troy. And It's about the effort that's shown up. It's not all about the winner and the focus. And if we build this just to be another race, it'll have a lifeline and it'll be a fad and it'll go.

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244.177 - 266.473 Brian Lee

If we build this to have a purpose, be inspirational and look after communities and all the people that are involved. We're all the affiliates, all the gyms, the companies, they all have their own communities and then we are one joint community of Troika that brings everybody together to experience that in one place and that's what Troika is.

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267.584 - 283.433 Gary Fox

Yeah, that's quite clever, actually. So you're not just building one community yourself, because again, that's a word that's used a lot over building a community. But I think what you just said there is very interesting. You're building on top of other communities that exist already. So as a business, you're then just you're catapulting on top of what's already there.

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283.413 - 290.5 Brian Lee

For example, one of the questions started at the very start, would we create a trike training center, a trike gym?

Chapter 5: Why is community engagement important for TRYKA's success?

291.261 - 313.748 Brian Lee

We're just competing with our customer, competing with our gyms by doing that. We don't want to do what other businesses have done and taken food from their table. If we can assist every small gym operator with training, getting clients to their gym by them having a new purpose to come to Troika.

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313.808 - 337.78 Brian Lee

We have local gyms in Donegal, little communities in Kerry, all writing in and thanking us for creating Troika because their memberships have gone from 10 people per class to 30 people per class because the normal... everyday person now has a place that they can go and compete in a friendly, competitive race. It's not about who hits the top of the podium.

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338.081 - 363.808 Brian Lee

It's about their journey getting to the race and beyond the finish line. Every single person that takes on the Troika event has an own personal story and a reason why are they taking part. So what we ask is what's your why? Why are you doing this? Whether it's mental health, it's an escape, it's a lost loved one, whether it's an illness, that everyone has a why and why they do it.

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364.048 - 368.713 Brian Lee

Why are you showing up and doing it? It's a feel good factor. Wherever the result is, it makes you feel good.

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369.494 - 387.286 Gary Fox

You mentioned something there about it not being a fad, because that's what I find very interesting. People are like, oh, High Rocks is a fad, Trike is a fad, CrossFit was a fad. Not really. I'm bought into everything that you're doing. So for people that aren't familiar with like High Rocks, Trika, this whole space, why do you think it's there to last?

Chapter 6: How does gamification enhance the TRYKA experience?

388.249 - 406.913 Brian Lee

Well, It's there to last because it's given people's purpose. The average day of people meeting people, for example, in the local pub and out in nightclubs is kind of drifting more into the wellness space. So how could health and well-being be a fad? How could people want to care about their health be a fad?

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407.394 - 428.063 Brian Lee

Like the more healthier we are, the better we feel, the more we're staying out of hospital, the better example and inspiration we are to the next generation. Like, how could that be a fad? If it's a concept, as I said, it's just a race. That's a fad. If you build a culture with purpose around it, it'll last forever. But you have to live by those words.

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428.463 - 440.262 Brian Lee

Our core values are welcome, inspire, and community. Nothing about performance, athlete, or PBs. So we need to live by them, by everybody we work with, from third parties right to the core of the customer.

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441.804 - 444.268 Gary Fox

Okay. So who's your target consumer then?

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445.109 - 467.185 Brian Lee

Our target consumer is, in an age demographic, we have 8 to 80 plus. But realistically, we say it's the everyday person, someone that is not trying to be that top 10, 15, 20% of a performance athlete. We do have a home and a place for them, but we limit that to maybe only a small 2% of the space.

467.165 - 475.384 Brian Lee

But we try and make home for the everyday person who just wants to turn up and try and give it their all and feel it's a place they belong.

Chapter 7: What role does self-belief play in entrepreneurship?

475.724 - 501.47 Brian Lee

That's why we created the Troika 500 race, where you do a single doubles or as a relay of four. It's a shorter race, but only 500 meter runs in between the eight exercises. They feel that's a place where they can start their journey if they've never done it before. And our number one is we have women's doubles 500 is our most popular. A couple of thousands of women do that at every event.

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503.333 - 522.655 Brian Lee

I would say 65% of our athletes are women. which is pretty unique. That's pretty good. And it's great to create that welcoming environment because normally women would feel intimidated. And it was one of the core principles when I sat down to come up with the idea of Troika was, how do I make this a more welcoming environment than others that exist?

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522.716 - 532.846 Brian Lee

Because some others that exist, I feel, are too intimidating for the everyday person and they don't belong there. It's not all about the concept. It's about the brand, the culture that you build around the concept.

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533.467 - 541.376 Gary Fox

How did you come up with this idea? Like you obviously, I followed your journey for a long time. You're obviously very, very active in the fitness and wellness space yourself personally. So how did you come up with this?

541.676 - 560.318 Brian Lee

Yeah, as you said, like I've owned gyms, I had shops, everything's been health and wellbeing space of where I'd like to put my hand to. How I came up with it was over two or three year period, I was competing in High Rocks races and

Chapter 8: How does Brian Lee envision the future of TRYKA?

561.344 - 583.588 Brian Lee

they've they were they've created basically the marathon which is not the marathon but a hybrid fitness race but they're the only one putting on marathon races so for me I said this is great they are servicing the top 20% of people I went did a race the pro doubles race and I had two lads shadow boxing

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583.737 - 612.512 Brian Lee

In the warm-up area... Which... I just thought was... Hilarious... But also... Very... Kind of off-putting... To the brand... For myself... And I just felt... One kilometre runs... Was a very hard start... To any journey... And someone wants to get into this space... They would never start here... It's a very good point... I was only making this... Reference to someone recently... We were in London... And like the men's warm-up area... Is a very... Intense place... You've... You've two types of people... You've the people like that... Who are like...

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612.492 - 624.037 Gary Fox

I'm going to kill everybody. And any of the lads were like, what is going on? And they're kind of like going and they're doing a few like heel kicks going. It's a very strange place.

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624.117 - 643.486 Brian Lee

It is. And I got a little bit of the ick kind of feeling from it. And I just said, If I'm already starting... Because you're their exact demographic. I am. And I'm that person around and running with the top off. And I said to myself, I'm actually starting to dislike what I'm standing for.

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644.026 - 655.662 Brian Lee

So I said, if there's no one else has a place to go, I said, someone's going to create a space for the everyday person to feel welcomed, feel involved. And if someone's going to do it, why not me?

658.375 - 680.299 Gary Fox

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680.768 - 700.769 Gary Fox

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701.63 - 719.179 Gary Fox

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719.243 - 745.183 Gary Fox

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