Obama’s Interior Secretary Goes Off on Trump & Talks His New Book
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the Find Out podcast. Our next guest or our guest today, you're going to have to bear with me because the amount of things that this person has done might mean that I give all of his accolades and then we have to wrap the show. But I'm going to go through it. So we've got the former Attorney General of Colorado, the former United States Senator from Colorado, the former U.S. Secretary of the Interior and also Ambassador, to Mexico. Ken Salazar is with us today. I have to call you Mr. Secretary. I'm sorry. I can't call you Mr. Ambassador unless you really want me to. But how are you doing today?
My favorite is Mr. Secretary, and it's good to be back with you. What a dream it was and how much we did during that time because the Obama Salazar Dream Team really came to shake up the world during the time that you were there, Tim. And, man, we did a lot. And so much of that now is under threat. So that's why I wrote the book.
Yes. And so the book, the book is called Borderlands, My Fight for an Inclusive America. And we're actually going to be releasing this episode on the day the book launches, which is Tuesday, the 28th. So you should absolutely go to Amazon or wherever and buy your copy today. So why did you write the book?
I wrote the book because it's the same purpose I had when I was at Interior and during my own life journey and the positions that you described. Some may say that I was moving from job to job because maybe I can't keep a job. So I go from a U.S. senator, a secretary to ambassador. But the truth of it is, the purpose is what's always guided me. And so I found a higher purpose being part of the Obama team and trying to change the world doing what we did. A few years, and if I'd stayed in the Senate for 40, but we did a lot. And so the book and the purpose really is about an inclusive America, our fight together for a more inclusive America. It's a rejection of Trump's project of erasure and those who support him who are trying to turn back the clock on us 100 years.
We're not going to let that happen. It's about the creation of a new North American alliance so that the North American continent, Mexico, the United States, and Canada, the United States, bringing people together to create a powerhouse of democracy and economy as an example for the rest of the world.
I don't know if people know, but you are actually a fifth generation Coloradan, which I believe means that your family was on that land before it was owned by the United States. So immigration is obviously something that you have cared passionately about in your entire career. Give us a little sense of what is your, I mean, I know what your grade would be for them, but what is happening in this country with this rounding up undocumented immigrants who have committed no crimes and throwing them out of the country, sometimes to places like Sudan?
Tim, we've gone from a time when over 10 million people in the United States who are undocumented are still here today. We're living in the shadows of fear. Today, they're living in the shadows of death, the killings in Houston and in other places around the country. It ought to be shocking to the American people. It is to me, and I think to most decent Americans, Republicans, Democrats. They ought to be concerned about this, no matter who you are.
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Chapters
4 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–6:34
2
Why did Ken Salazar write Borderlands and what is its central message?
6:34–17:37
3
How does Ken Salazar describe the current U.S. immigration enforcement crisis?
17:37–35:52
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What does Salazar propose as a modern, humane border and migration solution?
35:52–39:14