Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hello, everyone. I'm Dana Perino, along with Emily Campagno, Jessica Tarlow, Brian Kilmeade and Greg Gutfeld.
It's five o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five.
This is the House of Dogs.
Left-wing protesters in Minnesota crossed a major red line. DOJ and local officials are investigating the storming of a church in St. Paul by left-wing activists who believe that the church's pastor was working with ICE. Former CNN anchor Don Lemon was actually on the scene inside the church as the chaos unfolded.
What do you think Jesus would be understanding and love these folks? We're about spreading the love of Jesus. But did you try to talk to them as a Christian? No one is willing to talk.
Lemon says he was there just to do his job. I had no affiliation to that organization. I didn't even know they were going to this church. Once the protest started in the church, we did an act of journalism, which was report on it and talk to the people who were involved, which included the pastor, members of the church, and members of the organization. That's it.
It's called journalism.
Meanwhile, remember the summer of love in Seattle? Mayor Jacob Fry is selling a winter of love in Minneapolis, seeming to justify the unrest in his city.
I think it's important to tell the whole country that this is not just about resistance here in Minneapolis. It's about love. We are showing something far more powerful and consequential here, which is love. We are standing up for one another. You've got neighbors helping neighbors. You've got people uniting and coming together in this beautiful way.
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Chapter 2: What happened during the church protest in Minnesota?
If I were an employer there in that city, I would fire anyone, any of them that engaged in that shameful, unlawful, horrific, anti-Christian behavior. And if I were a parent there in that city, I would not let any of my children touch. the children of those parents that you are seeing right there, if they have children.
And I would make it clear it's because they are siding with and standing with child rapists and recidivist sodomizers and convicted murderers over and over again to the tune of 1600 in that city alone that have been, you're welcome, removed.
And if I were a tech founder, by the way, I would de-platform all of those individuals that you saw in the midst of their engaging in the felonious behavior I just outlined, you know, filming everything so that they would not have a platform and they would not get their dopamine hits anymore and the dopamine dries up. But here's the thing.
As a Christian, my real inspiration comes from that one woman that you can see on the video that stood there the entire time praying over those vicious people unlawful, anti-Christian, horrific trespassers there. And I pray that their impact remains at zero and that hers covers the world. Control Room, could you play the sound from the ICE agent that is scolding the protesters?
That vehicle right there is honking and impeding our investigations while we're trying to arrest a child sex offender. That's who you guys are protecting. Insane.
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Chapter 3: How did Don Lemon respond to the church protest?
And Brian, one of the things that this has reminded me of is how unpersuasive something like protesting in a church is. It's like the people who would block the highways for climate change to prevent people from going to work for an issue. It just actually makes everybody more angry.
Yeah. I mean, this is a flashback to George Floyd. It's a knockoff of all those things that they did. Were successful at the time, but in the long form, really long term, really hurt them. I think a couple of things. Number one, when there were shootings and attacks in churches, don't they usually come in from the doors from behind and everyone staring straight ahead?
Evidently, these guys and these women got into the church. They sat down at the one moment they stood up and started creating havoc in there. And that to me, right where you're thinking, this is going to be one of those attacks on our churches, synagogues that we've seen in Texas and in the Midwest.
The other thing we think of is Don Lemon, who's actually there pretending to be a talented journalist. He says that the pastor did a bad job. The pastor should have forgiveness like Jesus. While the guy's screaming at you, you see the pastor actually trying to engage these people and they're screaming back. They lost the argument. And not only that, uh,
When I see, and I asked Anna before, did you watch Sunday shows? I watched all of them. Watched them all at once. And this guy, Jacob Fry, sees an opportunity for his moment in the sun. He did every show of Fox News Sunday. And he talks about love, neighbors helping neighbors.
He says, isn't it beautiful that they'll go next door and go shopping for people because they're afraid to go to the supermarket? The only reason they're afraid to go to the supermarket is because they're an illegal immigrant. They're not going to get scooped up buying celery at the supermarket, and people, Mr. and Mrs. Johnson, aren't afraid to go to the supermarket.
If you are here illegally, you committed a crime, there's a problem. The other thing is, Kristi Noem did a really good job. She's on with Margaret Brennan, and Margaret Brennan says most of these people aren't criminals. Only 48%. This is your numbers. Okay. 48% have been convicted, and the others have been charged. They're being investigated. You put that together, that's 70%.
Others have been picked up because they're with these people that have been sought after by ICE in particular. The only reason they need 3,000... because they have 600 cops, is because the cops are not helping the 3,000.
And reportedly, the cops were on the outside of the church, watched those protesters walked in, did nothing when they created havoc, and they did nothing to stop it before it happened. So I have no patience for cops that don't help other law enforcement officials. Guys, I know you have a boss.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of the unrest in Minneapolis?
You got to keep your job. But you got to stand up and speak out and stand for something.
Jessica, we're week three into this.
Any ending soon? It certainly doesn't seem like it. It seems like it's just getting started, and I think it's going to spread to other cities.
In New York, they're practicing right now.
I mean, I would practice, frankly, because I think the Trump administration has a particular point of view on this. And they, you know, he's made it clear that he wants to go after liberal cities, especially sanctuary cities. And so I would be prepared for it. But Brian O'Hara, who is the police chief in Minneapolis, is not one of those guys who says he doesn't want to cooperate with ICE.
He did a huge interview with The New York Times. He was on 60 Minutes last night as well, talking about the fact that his entire career from back when he was in Newark to moving to Minneapolis, he has always worked with ICE. But the way that ICE is doing it Is completely incorrect. He said he's observed observed behaviors.
They're absolutely running in the face of what the protocol is on the entering the church. You brought up it made me think of when there have been attacks. And that was my first thought, too. I was like, what if this is another shooting? Yep. And we have seen it and there are children in there. And that is just. frightening.
And so I think Governor Walz was absolutely correct to say you've got to peacefully protest, but you may not go into a house of worship. But this is all happening against a backdrop that is driving this city to the point that there are people standing outside of their homes, holding their rifles, saying, like, I'm going to protect my community because of what ICE is doing.
And this alarming contrast between how upset Harmeet Dhillon is over this. And the Trump administration, you know, she's saying that she and Bondi are working around the clock. No right is more sacred than the freedom to assemble and pray to God at the same time. And then you listen to Todd Blanch, who was on with Shannon Bream.
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Chapter 5: What legal issues could the protesters face?
And he says millions of Americans saw the video. We investigate when it's appropriate. That is not this case here. So we are not investigating. You got hit by a car. 82 percent. Brian, 82 percent of people saw that video. Fifty three percent think that he should be criminally charged for it.
And then The Wall Street Journal comes out and they're reporting that there are incentives for ICE agents because they need to meet that insane three thousand people a day quota that they're getting rewarded, even if they bring in people who then get released. These stories of Americans being detained saying, show me your papers. There was a veteran U.S. Veteran who's on a carnival cruise. A U.S.
veteran on a carnival cruise with his wife who was taken out of his cabin. Someone who served this country. What is the percentage? Do not act like ICE isn't making... I don't even know how many mistakes a day in pursuit of Stephen Miller's three thousand a day quota and getting paid for it.
All right. I'm going to focus on the backdrop because you went back to the officer to avoid what's really going on.
Yes.
Yes. Because that is actually not the story here. The story is. Yes. The story is how you got here. And you won't admit that that is the reason why we're fit. This isn't about. This isn't about immigration. It isn't about ICE. It isn't about Trump. It is about suicidal empathy that is driven by a rescue fantasy. You have all of these young, middle-aged women going out there
Because they have some kind of emptiness in their lives that are going out there in this kind of rescue delusion, helping people they don't know, strangers who are guilty of crimes. How can you defend that? This is not protesters going to a church. That is a mob. The people that invented the phrase safe spaces. are breaking it up, frightening kids, right?
These are the people that call us fascists and they're hunting people. These are the people that claim to defend women and yet are defending men who abuse women. These are the people that call us homophobic and yet they want to out ice guys for using, I don't know, gay sex apps. Let's be honest here. Fry's a pussy. He's scared of these people or else he would stand up for it, calling it love.
There's no such thing as a mob with love. And imagine showing this tape to Don Lemon 10 years ago, 15 years ago, and saying, is this where you saw yourself, Lemon? Crashing a church service, scaring kids, attacking a pastor. Was this your hope and dream to do this? Radicalization is gradual. Black Lives Matter is now Bad Guys Matter. And now you'll defend anything. You're defending rapists.
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Chapter 6: How do the hosts view the actions of law enforcement during the protest?
I've never actually said that word out loud.
Portending.
Yes. That was a portender.
That was as fast as I wanted.
Coming up next, women's soccer pros demand lockers full of bros.
All right, it's the 80-20 issue that's still a red card for Democrats.
Greg loves the soccer references. The ACLU out with a brand new ad featuring soccer star, wokester Megan Rapinoe and others standing up for the right of men to participate in women's sports.
the field the track the court here you get to be exactly who you are because at our core we're still the kids who just want to play supporting trans youth isn't just about sports it's about freedom on and off the field it's more than a game Right, freedom, except for a woman playing against a man. I digress. Axios quizzing nearly 20 Democrats, viewed as possible 20, 28 contenders.
Most did not want to talk about trans rights. Does that surprise you, Emily?
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Chapter 7: What are the hosts' predictions for future protests and unrest?
Did not want to even bring up the trans rights, these Democrats. How could they not pre-think this issue if they're considering running for president?
Well, because they're cowards. They are giving in to influencers instead of being the influencers themselves and saying, yes, here's what I'm going to do when I earn your vote and then deserve the salary you pay me. I am going to influence your children for the better by not allowing biological males to compete against little girls. Elite voices are not voter voices. And that commercial is so...
out of touch and it's so deeply offensive. So I'm going to listen to Naomi Watts, who got everything that she got because she's Nicole Kidman's bestie and like secured a couple backdoor auditions and enjoyed Britain growing up. And now she is the nerve to tell me what to do with my daughters. I mean, it's shameful. Megan Rapinoe.
Rapinoe got to do this PSA after she was an elite world champion because she didn't have to compete against biological males. If she had, she would not know what it is like to be a world champion because she wouldn't have gotten this far. Fairness is being reframed as hate. And this isn't about sports. Obviously, it's about power.
And any time anyone tries to push back, they are told that they are. transphobic, that these girls, that their position and their livelihood and their futures matter less than cultural compliance. But the thing is, is that the public is ahead of this. We see it. The courts have said absolutely not. Voters have said absolutely not.
But it's about this social influence, this narrative, these dopamine hits. So this is why it's so important to have your kids off of social media and And that your local and city and county elections matter so much that your school board matters so much who sits on it, because those are the ones that have that real power.
And if we stop listening to the celebrities and their influence, then we can wipe away what influence they have.
All right, Greg, you know, I know you love talking soccer. That's what we talk about in the breaks. So Megan Rapinoe in particular. Sorry. My bad. Rappin' hoe. Yeah. Do you know that her entire team was beaten by a team of 15-year-old boys?
Yes. Yes.
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Chapter 8: What insights do the hosts share about the motivations behind the protests?
Don't on the other hand. Maybe these people deserve it. Maybe they do do bad things.
Maybe this is our way of getting that justice. Well, they started it. All these Hollywood stars who kept looking down, telling us how to act, what to do, and what to say. And they decided that in Hollywood, they knew it. They first went around. I know Nelson Mandela, worthy cause. But the first time I ever heard an activist speak on a major stage, I thought, what's that about?
I thought you were just going to say thank you for the trophy. But then they talked about Nelson Mandela. I thought, that's laudable. Next thing you know, they're talking about global warming and talking about all their causes and their pins. And we're seeing all this. And I'm wondering, what is Matt Damon so worried about? This guy is like... He's done nothing wrong.
In his past, I guess he almost got canceled because his ex-girlfriend, Minnie Driver, he made a comment saying there's a difference with the Me Too movement between someone slapping your butt and child molestation. And then Minnie Driver came out and called him out on Twitter. And then he had to go and apologize publicly. And I guess that was traumatizing to him.
But, I mean, this just shows you where the line was put. And they're the ones who put the line in. They started this all. They pulled the pin off the grenade, threw it, and go, wow, that's going to suck.
That's great.
What do you think, Greg? Well, we talked about this. I think that, not to blow our own horn, but let's blow our own horn. We were the first show to talk about this stuff probably 10, 15 years ago when the show started, that there was this movement coming up. It was like a population that found joy in hate. And the one thing that they did not have or offer was forgiveness. That was the key.
It's like what they were talking about is that you pay your debts in jail. But but if you were to say I'm sorry to in the media, people would actually get more intense because they smell blood. An apology is is smelling blood. So the one thing that I was talked about, I said it many times here is you have to share the risk.
And if you share the risk, meaning that if somebody comes after Brian, I will defend him. I won't. But then he will do the same for me. And that's how it works. And then you just kind of give the finger to be. I've been a target like almost like every week of my life. You know, the things that like you would not believe and I wouldn't bore you with.
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