Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hello, everyone. I'm Dana Perino, along with Kennedy, Jessica Tarloff, Jesse Waters and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five. And a stunning divide here at home over who to believe, Trump or Iran.
The president says he's having productive negotiations with the terror regime on a deal to end the war, claiming Iran agreed to no nukes and even revealing that the Iranians sent a gift related to oil and gas.
We're in negotiations right now. They're doing it along with Marco, J.D. The other side, I can tell you, they'd like to make a deal.
What makes you trust them? I don't trust anybody. I don't trust you. They gave us a present. And the president arrived today. It was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money.
And I'm not going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize. No, it wasn't nuclear related. It was oil and gas related. And I'm involved. I'm involved. Why?
I'm going to be so big.
Oh, I don't want to talk about it.
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Chapter 2: What is the current state of negotiations between the U.S. and Iran?
I'm the president of the United States, Tom. And I'm not going to talk about it. It's beneath me to talk about saving millions of lives.
But Iranian officials are denying discussions are even happening. And some Democrats, including Barack Obama's former CIA director, appear to be more inclined to believe Iran over the president.
I tend to believe Iran more than I do.
That's crazy. Do you believe the Iranian officials over the president of the United States?
And yes, we know he's lying when he says that the Iranians are talking with us. We've heard the president say things that have proved to be completely untrue in the past. We really don't know what to believe. Is it good that their military infrastructure is being degraded to the degree that it is? Yes or no? You can't because it's a premature question.
And this CNN commentator says she's unsure on whether the president is any better than the world's biggest sponsor of terrorism.
The leaders of the Iranian regime, they lie. I think the problem is we don't know if our president is also telling the truth. And so it feels like there are two bad actors in this case. And I am confused. I really don't know. I want my president to be honest. Two bad actors don't have to be the exact same type of bad actors. One is a little bad. One is a little worse. Too bad actors.
Well, I mean, at least she's being honest in her stupidity. I think that's I think that makes her slightly better than most people on CNN. But do you want to compliment an amazing compliment? It's amazing that the media and Democrats consider Trump. The first president ever who has to wrap up a war in three weeks or it's a failure. Why?
It's a tribute to him because the expectations are so high that he usually does things so big and so phenomenally. It's like, oh, wait, I thought this was going to be done on day one. It's like. Everything he has done has been pretty much impeccable. You don't have to agree with the war, but the way he's conducting the war is pretty good. It's actually great.
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Chapter 3: Why do some believe Iranian officials over the U.S. President?
I'm sure you could. But also, thank you to the producers for stopping then. This is kind of similar. You know how I am about like you throw around Nazi people, tune you out, and then you can't make your point. And usually you can find with most people that live within the spectrum of like the 80 percent in the middle. They have generally the same views about things.
If you make a good case or you can at least get to a place where you can see where the other side is coming from. So I certainly wouldn't use that kind of language. Donald Trump has not ordered hundreds of thousands of people to be killed. And yet. That's tomorrow's episode and I will be back.
But it is important that people are allowed to and that their questions about what's going on are even welcomed. That is healthy. And, you know, Greg, you said how he's been conducting this war has been great. There are a number of people who are not out there making those kinds of statements, like even from John Brennan, who are raising real questions. John Brennan is a fraud.
If you're going to bring up John Brennan as your source, this man is a known barricader, a liar. I'm saying don't use John Brennan as the example. And you did. Because he was in the montage. So that's not my fault. What is happening? Just listen. Donald Trump himself and Pete Hegseth and top officials with the administration have told us completely backwards explanations for this multiple times.
We have heard it will be a few days. Actually, it will take months. No boots on the ground.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of military infrastructure degradation in Iran?
Also, maybe a draft. And we're sending thousands of troops to the region. Did you hear about a draft?
Yeah.
Well, you were on vacation. I'm glad you got some.
I wasn't dodging.
We already. Not like our president. We already won. Also, give us $200 billion. We fight with bombs. Also, let's give $14 billion in oil sanctions relief. We're going to end the regime. They'll never get a nuke. Just kidding. Those aren't our goals anymore. There are serious developments happening.
in the fact that Israel and the Saudis want us to keep going, perhaps past the point that the administration wants to keep going. Then you have the question of what happens in a year, two years? Let's say that we get out in the next few weeks, which maybe that is the plan. Can they rebuild these facilities? not just talking about the nuclear parts.
I'm talking about the drone manufacturing and the ballistic missile manufacturing, which has been actually to this point our greatest issue. Those are all very real and valid questions rooted in things that Donald Trump is saying himself. He already said again today, we already won. Why are we even talking about this? Can I just jump in for a second? Please, whatever.
Jessica asked a question that a five-year-old would ask. When is this thing going to be over? Stop it. That's not a serious contribution to the discussion about a war, Jessica. We knew what was the objective, and we're going about it methodically. If you don't know what the goal is, you weren't listening.
I do. Let me explain it to you this way.
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Chapter 5: How does the discussion of masculinity relate to modern society?
I mean, we sustained a couple casualties. You know, this is war. There's going to be problems. It's not going to go according to plan. But to say the guy's lying about peace talks three weeks into the operation and you're the CIA director former. I mean, that's either the guy has TDS or it's a psyop to undermine the commander in chief and spew phony. Foreign propaganda on American television.
You nailed it, though. The Israelis and the Saudis, the whole region, Europe, the Australians, the Japanese, they're all coming together to make sure we don't have to deal with these people anymore to keep the straight open. And now you have China begging the Iranians to surrender before Friday because they can see what's coming. I'm not saying you have to.
Agree with everything Trump's doing as the commander in chief. I get it. You don't have to agree with the way we went to war. But once you're in it, you got to be in it to win it. And you have to understand there's a huge payoff if we're victorious. The street was open. We're the ones that caused it to be closed.
And now we're trying to.
The Iranians have been bombarding the street for 40 years.
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Chapter 6: How does media coverage affect public trust in political leaders?
It's actually put a five to fifteen dollar premium on every barrel of oil that goes out of there. Once you take them out of the equation, oil is going to go down. Everybody knows it. We're the new Ayatollah. Yeah. What could this major energy related gift to the U.S. be that he mentioned? And he said it is related to the Strait of Hormuz. I'm glad you asked that, Dana.
We are out of time.
I have been thinking about this for several hours and I think it is a golden whoopee cushion. That's right. Very expensive, very rare and filled with gas. So that is what the president that that is what he has been teasing. If he's lying, it only lends to his unpredictability. Let's say he's not really talking to the Iranians.
Let's assume that he's making this up to either buy time or just to confuse whoever is left, because whoever is left is so incredibly paranoid that they think that somehow Saudi Arabia and UAE and Israel and the United States have cobbled together. A new Iranian regime. And that is who is going to be leading the country.
And the second they pop their heads out of their hole, they are going to be blown off. So even if he is talking to no one, there is still a utility in that. And I do think Jessica has a fair point asking when this whole thing is going to end, because the misdirect is fine for our enemies. It's not OK for the American people. And we deserve a timeline, especially when people are worried about
I don't think you want to put a timeline on something like this. It'll be over when he says it's over. And the objectives have almost been accomplished. Okay, is this a 20-year war? Is this a 20-year war? It's three weeks, everybody. Take a break. Let the man cook. And obviously, we're going to be successful. We got the Marines coming. Okay, is he a short order cook or is this a 20-year meal?
Listen, if you're complaining about three weeks, Kennedy, I think you need to be a little more patient, okay? And let the operators do their thing. This is not easy. This is war. And it's a very effective campaign so far. It's not like we haven't seen this movie before. Okay, you're comparing this to Iraq? I'm saying... You're comparing this to Iraq?
It's been three weeks, Jessica.
We have intervened in the Middle East multiple times. People have legitimate questions. Okay. And we're asking those questions.
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Chapter 7: What are the arguments surrounding Trump's approach to the war?
The other side is ruthless. And with respect, my party needs to be more ruthless about winning because if we don't win back the House of Representatives, we may not have a fair and free election in 2028.
And I really believe that.
Trying to be right, like saying chicks have penises. And here's Greasy going ruthless on Jesse's derriere.
I mean, you talk about a critic. You think Sean Hannity has criticized me or Jesse Waters read about how my sister talks about me. She's on the record. Sorry, Jesse.
Oh, somebody's got the hots. But PA Governor Josh Shapiro argues his party's problem isn't style, it's substance or lack thereof.
I believe that government can be a force for good in people's lives. By the way, otherwise I wouldn't be doing this work. At the same time, I've also seen how too many of these governmental institutions have failed too many people.
That's what I want to know. How do you think the Democratic Party has failed?
I think we have failed to deliver tangible results for people.
It's a shame, Jessica, that he's Jewish because he will not be elected, as Kamala Harris made it clear. And given what you guys did with Gaza, you make it clear that you do. You will not welcome a Jewish president. Your party that's got to drive you crazy. It drives me crazy. And I'm not even Jewish. I mean, I do have Ashkenazi in that part of me.
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