Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
All right.
Hello, everyone. I'm Sandra Smith, along with Kaylee McEnany, Harold Ford Jr., Jesse Waters and Greg Gutfeld. It is five o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five. President Trump on his way back from Davos, Switzerland, after a whirlwind trip packed with dealmaking and a little diplomatic drama over Greenland. A historic framework deal for what the president calls a big piece of ice.
But the real chill that came from a clash with California Governor Gavin Newsom. He claims the president tried to freeze him out of speaking at the event. The governor eventually found a microphone and didn't hold back.
I was going to speak last night. It was a well-established event. They made sure it was canceled. And that's what's happening in the United States of America. Freedom of expression, freedom of assembly, freedom of speech. It's America in reverse. This is madness. You see what he's saying about European leaders, you talking down to people, talking past people.
I mean, look, the comments he made yesterday, we're not even discussing because you're discussing all the other comments about windmills or whatever else was happening. You're running around distributing knee pads to CEOs.
And I think it does. I'm not handing them out.
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Chapter 2: What happened during President Trump's trip to Davos?
And it does.
I do have a few if you'd like.
And honestly, it sounds.
By the way, I'm not kidding. They're the new Trump signature series knee pads. Yeah. And they are available online. I told you the last one sold out. He's an invasive species, Donald Trump.
OK, well, while the California governor sparred on the sidelines, President Trump was getting things done, finalizing his board of peace at a signing ceremony packed with world leaders. Watch this.
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Chapter 3: How did Gavin Newsom clash with President Trump at Davos?
The official formation of what is known as the Board of Peace. Every country, just about every country wants to be a part of it. Let me see. Yeah, every one of them is a friend of mine. A couple, let's see, a couple I like, a couple I don't like. No, I like, actually, this group, I like every single one of them. Can you believe it? Usually I have about two or three that I can't stand.
OK, so, Jesse, your take on how things are going there for President Trump, but also, I don't know, does it reflect well on Governor Gavin Newsom to be sort of, I don't know, attempting to spar with the president like he is?
I mean, he can only get attention when he's drafting off of somebody else. You know, whether it was DeSantis in Florida, whether it's inviting Kirk on his podcast or now he's stalking Air Force One over to Davos. The guy can't hold a room. He always has to be bird-dogging some opposition to get press. And you think he's going over there to talk about policy?
He spoke for, like, almost 30 minutes, didn't mention Arctic security or Greenland or minerals or Ukraine, didn't mention a thing that was serious. He gave a campaign speech to a bunch of Europeans who can't even vote for the United States president. and called our president authoritarian. And then the guy brings props. He brings props for a gay oral sex joke. What kind of person does this?
I mean, Donald Trump would not bring props. This is like carrot top territory. And so the Democrats like to talk about upholding rules and norms. Remember how they always used to say, oh, politics stops on the water's edge. He flies over following the president to a foreign country while the president's trying to secure peace and security. And he's bad mouthing him and two American allies.
And imagine if Donald Trump had followed Joe Biden to Davos. and started making gay sex jokes and called him sleepy, or had followed Barack Obama to a foreign country and just started ragging on him in front of the world, it would have been totally unacceptable because no one really takes him seriously. We're not taking this that seriously.
This is the thirstiest lame duck pick-me governor you've ever seen. This whole state's still suffering from the fires. He hasn't rebuilt a single house. No wonder Donald Trump didn't let him into the after party. Why would you let this guy in? I mean... And the fact is, Trump was classy. Trump said straight up to the entire room, guy's a good guy. I like Gavin.
If we can work together, we can help the people of California. And then this guy turns around and calls him deranged. I think Gavin is having a mental breakdown. The whole world knows.
Harold, did you see it that way? I mean, you know, some say it looks like he's just whining on the world stage. Was it a missed opportunity to say what he stands for?
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Chapter 4: What was the significance of the Board of Peace announced by Trump?
Gavin Newsom, I have long maintained, is a slick political operator. But this was a not a footnote to being a slick, slick political operator. And here's why. The most successful playbook in modern politics is the Trump playbook. I think without question, the first Republican to win the popular vote in 20 years, double digit gains among young people, among blacks, among Latinos.
So it's tempting to want to emulate the Trump playbook. And that is what Gavin Newsom is trying to do. But do so at your own peril. We saw Marco Rubio try this. We all remember Rubio with the water bottle. Trump blew him out of the water by saying, look, I'm Rubio. And he had the water bottle everywhere, making fun of Marco drinking from the water bottle in the State of the Union response.
It didn't work out for Marco Rubio. He's come a long way since then. It's not going to work out for Gavin Newsom. You look at Gavin Newsom press shop. I looked at it before coming to air. He's tweeting out Newsom derangement syndrome, clearly trying to capitalize on something Trump has said. He's live tweeting J.D. Vance's speech. And then he's tweeting about Trump's hands.
And, of course, he's trying to emulate Trump the back and forth with Rubio and Trump on the hands on the debate stage in 2016. Emulation is a sincere form of flattery, but it is going to backfire and boomerang. I don't want to give Gavin Newsom free advice, but if you try to copy Trump, it will come back in your face and you might not even make it through the Democratic primary. There's one Trump.
And you can't out-Trump Trump.
Hmm.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of Newsom's comments about Trump?
Greg? Sandra? What do you think about all this? I mean, is the sparring making Gavin Newsom look stronger than President Trump?
Well, I might have a different take on this. I think they should have let Gavin into the USA House, but in a tribute to his visit to the French Laundry, he should have had to wear a mask and be six feet apart from everybody. You know, I think about this knee pads thing a lot because knee pads are valuable in various things. Imagine if Donald Trump brought knee pads to debate Kamala.
Think about that, people. Imagine if a reporter had actually had a follow-up for Gavin. Like, what do you mean? Because they never have a follow-up. They always have follow-ups. They always have the performative ignorance with Republicans. Like, Like, I don't understand what you mean. What do you mean women can't have penises? Explain. But in this case, they don't even ask him a follow up.
Like, what do you mean by the knee pads? What are the knee pads for? Are you coming out against sodomy, a practice that is engaged by millions of voters? Why do you hate gay people? That's what they would do if it was like Mitch McConnell. What's interesting to me is that wherever Trump goes, wherever that place is, is kind of rendered permanently different, sometimes even irrelevant.
Like if you think of the White House Correspondents Dinner, no one even looks at it seriously anymore. Things kind of get smaller. Look what he did to CNN. You know, he called it fake news in years. It's like it's a shadow of what it is. Look at 60 Minutes, once reputable. Look at the climate agenda. Look at the trans movement. Davos falls into that same pattern.
It looks like another small town leveled by the orange tornado. It's like Trump is like Jerry Nadler after using a restroom. You know, you just just condemn it. It's beyond help. I continue with my courtroom analogy that, you know, two lawyers walk into a room. When one walks in, everyone's sphincter clenches, including the judges. But the other lawyer looks like a Maserati salesman.
Who do you want on your side? You want the one that scares the hell out of everybody. And Trump went to Davos to fight for America. Gav went to Davos to fight Trump. And he looks like a guy. He looks like a guy in a meeting who just shows up for the free lunch. We got a pit bull. He's the poodle. And my last point is that I think that when you look at them side by side,
Gavin really cares how he's perceived. He doesn't want to look bad in front of the cool kids. So he won't risk anything. You know, it's everything has to be in his best interest with Trump. He doesn't care. He'll risk everything on our behalf. Maybe he wasn't always like this, but he is now. Even if you don't care what you know what he is, he doesn't care what you think of him.
It's about his client. We're his client. Got it. Thank you, Greg. Thank you, Sandra. Did a great job. Did a great job.
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Chapter 6: How does the panel view the effectiveness of Trump's leadership?
This is the performative ignorance where we are required to explain every story in the news. It's our job to ask the follow-up question when that story comes out on X or Blue Sky.
Yeah. And Greg Bovino today, to your point, saying we've been stopped for eight to 10 hours. He kept emphasizing that during his press conference. That's scary. You know, as I look at this, Jesse, I'm just looking at these protesters and I wonder would they do it again because they stormed a church thinking there'd be no repercussions or maybe they did and they didn't care.
I don't know if they expected the long arm of law to come their way.
Well, eventually you have to shut it down. And the Department of Justice is finally shutting it down. They waited a little too long, but now there's going to be consequences. This is what happens in all of these liberal protest movements. It starts with a bunch of whistle mommies, kind of innocent, and then it gets taken over by hardcore radical militants.
This woman, Nakima, whatever her name is, she's a big supporter of the Black Liberation Army. She praises cop killers. She got a million dollars for Minneapolis for nonprofit work. And what'd she do with the money? She invests in Black and Latina activists who... Disrupt business as usual, a.k.a. capitalism. So she get her money from a Wal-Mart person. She may have to go after. I don't know.
Yeah. So but this is what they do. They launder taxpayer money into these militant women who then cause mayhem and then get arrested. And then they have to bail them out. The other woman, hardcore BLM leader, this other guy with the beard. He's mentally ill. I looked him up. He travels around the ICE facilities and protests at ICE facilities by himself. By himself.
He calls them concentration camps. So I don't want to take away from the fact that there is major investigations going on with Somali fraud. The ringleader who's in prison just gave an interview to Fox News Digital, and she said... The governor knew, the governor, the mayor knew what was going on, and they didn't do anything about it.
And then you have Omar, who all of a sudden, $30 million winds up in her bank account. And there's investigations of them obstructing the ice work, federal investigations. This is just the beginning of what's going to happen there in Minneapolis.
Yeah, there's a lot, and Minnesota is the epicenter of it. You know, Harold, I do find it ironic, and I know you've condemned the storming of the church, that Biden laid the groundwork for this with the FACE Act, with the conspiracy against rights charged under the KKK Act. He used these never-before-used statutes in a way that is now being used in the other direction.
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Chapter 7: What are the main criticisms of Gavin Newsom's political strategies?
I I hear you, Justin. I happen to agree in large part with the images we see on television. I've watched your show, Sandra, as well, as we talk about these terrible things. But no one, and we even flippantly say about this congresswoman, Ilyan Omar, who I have great disagreements with on policy, but if she's done something wrong, then Ms. Bondi and the U.S. attorneys there ought to indict her.
And they ought to go after those who we believe stole this money. All we hear is these stories after story. And the one thing that they did, Miss Bondi did bring against some elected officials there in Minnesota were the two mayors of St. Paul, respectively, in Minneapolis and the governor. And now they subpoenaed them rather. And now, Mr. Ellison.
And they're saying that they're doing that because they think that they're impeding or interfering with ICE efforts. There's been nothing on this other side. But if there is, I just wish they'd get to it because we keep reporting and reporting and reporting. You would think if it was as obvious as our reporting that they would know.
Finally, I think, and I've said this over the last two or three days, I want the worst out of here. I think what President Trump and his team in some of these policies are running into in the five-year-old story, I was glad there was some clarification on that, but I still can't imagine putting a five-year-old on a plane by himself.
Even if the father or the mom, they may have done something egregious. I think that there's a compassion and a forgiveness in our country. for people who are here illegally, who are paying taxes, raising their families and are hardworking. And you see it in the president's base, including Joe Rogan. And you see it on the other side, Democrats who have been, I think, sometimes too forgiving.
But I think we've not found that balance yet. And I think the president is struggling to find it. I think that Vice President Vance was fine today, but I would have gone in with a more conciliatory. I think Dana yesterday thought he was going to go in and you thought and say, we claim victory here and let's move on.
But every story that is disguised as the lack of compassion falls apart when you look closer at it. Yeah, you don't want the kids separated from his parents. But if his parents are criminal and fleeing, you've got no choice. And that's not lack of compassion. We have to have compassion for this country. But I do agree with you. It's like I want to know why these people aren't being arrested.
I have been pointing out this about Omar marrying her brother. If everybody says it's true, how is she still in this country?
Yeah. Yeah. And I would just know Trump said on Tuesday that he only wants people going after the most hardened criminals. But they're not.
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