Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hello, everyone. I'm Dana Perino, along with Emily Campagno, Harold Ford Jr., Jesse Waters and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five.
I think he's terrible. I thought he did a terrible job at the Grammys. I thought the whole Grammys was terrible. I watched part of it. It's not watchable. But he was a lousy host. I'd say not as bad as Jimmy Kimmel, but pretty close.
And that was President Trump just a few minutes ago talking about the Grammys as the music took a backseat to left wing politics. Big names like Justin Bieber joining other celebs and wearing ice out pins and using their acceptance speeches to attack President Trump's immigration agenda.
Before I say thanks to God, I'm going to say ice out.
No one is illegal on stolen land. Our voices really do matter, and the people matter. And I say sorry. I hope everybody is inspired to join together as a community of artists and speak out against what's going on. And I'm going to leave this and say ice.
Immigrants built this country.
I'm up here as a granddaughter of an immigrant.
But not everyone is a fan of the posturing. Bill Maher warning Democrats that Hollywood activism does not persuade voters.
Democrats, it's great you have all the big celebs, but people see them as an arm of the Democratic Party, which they already suspect for lacking common sense. We know the celebrities mean well, and we thank them for having their heart in the right place. But just do you. Do what you do so well. Use your extraordinary talents for the noble cause of bringing relief.
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Chapter 2: What did President Trump say about the Grammys?
And Jelly Roll took home the prize for Best Contemporary Country Album and used his time on stage to tell the crowd about his faith.
I believe that music had the power to change my life, and God had the power to change my life. Jesus is for everybody. Jesus is not owned by one political party. Jesus is Jesus, and anybody can have a relationship with him.
I love the cutaway to Areva McIntyre. She's a legend.
Chapter 3: How did celebrities express their political views at the Grammys?
Okay. Probably to be expected at the Grammys, but talking about stolen land, there's almost like on the farthest left of the woke-ism spectrum.
So Billie Eilish built a house on the stolen lands. And then she won't let any illegal squat on it. Remember what happened when the illegals came to Martha's Vineyard? They brought in the military to kick them out. The music industry tried to act like they have the moral high grounds with immigration. Dana, I watched the Diddy documentary. These people are nasty. Nasty. And...
You know, also, they're the cartel's biggest customer. I mean, they do more blow than Charlie Sheen. Watch it.
Hey, he's clean now.
Now? Now. ice keeps families more together than the music business. Trust me. I mean, 23 and me couldn't even figure out the family trees in that industry. It's not about the policy. It's more about a protest because for four years, you didn't see them wearing pins about loving the open border.
They just talked about trans and Fauci and Ukraine, whatever was fashionable at the time in order to make themselves feel like they had the moral high ground or feel like they were politically engaged. Uh, liberals run the Grammys like Trump runs the border. You have to show an ID to get in. You have to have merit and you have to have an invitation. They don't even realize that.
But what's really going on is this is a now global music industry. The audience is global. That's where the money is. And everybody downloading is Gen Z and mostly women. So that's the target audience to this anti-ice message. The people say, oh, you got to respect their opinion. I do respect their opinion, but I don't value their opinion because their opinion is not informed.
If I want to hear a great song, I listen to Lady Gaga. If I want to hear about immigration policy, I listen to Stephen Miller, who also has a great voice. What else can Miller do?
But, hey, we may find out.
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Chapter 4: What was the reaction to Hollywood's activism on immigration?
Harold Ford, does Bill Maher have a point to Democrats when he says, guys, this is not persuasive?
He does. Good to be with everybody. But here's the thing, though. I didn't look I didn't turn the Grammys on last night looking for political affirmation. If you want that, I turn to Fox News. Anyone watching, you should do the same. If you want to hear some people who are incredibly talented, can sing, can dance, I thought the Bruno Mars opening to the show was unbelievable.
I thought Jelly Roll, I was moved. I never really tweeted. I tweeted Jelly Roll. Don't know this guy. What he said was unbelievable. I mean, it moved me in many, many ways, and I hope it moved my pals here at the table as well. The First Amendment, I talk and Greg gets on me because I remind people the First Amendment gives everybody a right to free speech.
But the First Amendment also gives you the right to turn the station. I would advise everybody that gets offended by these people to just turn to turn the channel on them. And if you're intrigued and entranced by music. If you're intrigued and entranced by movies, the award shows, that's what I'm speaking of, then they're fun to watch.
But I don't agree with a lot of things they're saying about politics. But I sure do love watching Bruno Mars sing. So I'm going to watch it. I'm going to watch it every year.
What did you think, Emily? Well, I did not watch it for that reason. I didn't want to be part of the Nielsen ratings, frankly. And I also don't like to watch great music sort of destroyed by the production and the theater, which is what it is. It's kabuki to me. Today in the elevator, I was riding in a different bank, one of the other corporations. Or the other one.
And there was sort of like a very young person there that was obviously getting a tour by someone. And they were talking about, couldn't help it over here because we were in the same elevator. He was like, oh, yes, I did X, Y, Z. And it was, oh, it was just one of the most amazing experiences of my life. It was like the only experience of your life. You're 12.
And that is exactly the same sort of like flip response that I have to all of these celebrities on stage. When you contrast the sentiment and the experience and the credibility behind, for example, Jelly Roll versus Billie Eilish, I think about how Jelly Roll has been incarcerated for many years. In and out, he was a drug addict.
He speaks openly about his criminal history, about his issues with drug addiction. And then he is there telling us about his testimony and about being saved by Jesus Christ and what faith does and how his heart has turned because of faith and worshiping the Lord and encouraging others to find that same freedom. And then you have someone that had a number one...
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Chapter 5: How does the music industry view its role in political issues?
She, by the way, was homeschooled in a creative arts household and was born and raised in L.A. I forgot to say that when I talked about the entitlement. So the cushion and the petri dish these people exist in who think they have the nerve to lecture me. I was watching something different.
Are those the pins? What pins were they wearing for the Golden Globes? They also had pins. Oh, be good. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Remember those? The pin industry is doing well in Hollywood.
I don't want to be a hypocrite, Dana, so I have to point out that this show is being filmed on stolen land. This used to be Glenn Beck's studio. I love Billie Eilish because she managed to be not just stupid on one issue, but stupid on two issues simultaneously. She's up in her game. How can the land be stolen if there is no border?
Right, right.
So she's absolutely amazing. And, Jessie, you're right. She has this massive house on stolen land, and she has to turn that into a casino. Because that's the only way forward. I don't expect her to move out immediately, but turn it into a casino, let people in. I know she has some stalkers. What's that about? How come she keeps out stalkers? I don't understand this. Not about politics at all.
It's about persona. Don Lemon got a standing ovation from them. But it's not about him, you know, because Don is Don. He's an ambulance chaser. But the ambulance is status. It's the people who give it to him. Why do they give it to them? If you you have to understand their children when they're out there, they look like adults, but they're actually children.
They don't really have a background that everybody else does. They're frightened and they're insecure. They're really worried about fitting in. So even though they will dress like a rebel, they will embrace any slogan because deep down they fear that their deficiencies will be exposed. They are basket cases.
Every person in there is a basket case, worried about their imposter syndrome and wondering when will their luck run out. So what they do, it's amazing because everybody thinks of them as standout celebrities. They will do anything to fit in. which is why they went after Nicki Minaj, because she refused to. And by refusing to fit in, they felt like, oh, my God, people can actually see us.
They actually could see us for what we are. We're just a bunch of followers and we're terrified. Giving Don Lemon an ovation tells you how much they hate you, the consumer. It was the consumer's church, the person in America's church, that he stormed, that he scared those children, that he tried to sabotage. But they don't think it that way. Their empathy is purely performative and it's not real.
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