Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hello, everyone. I'm Kaylee McEnany, along with Jessica Tarlow, Jesse Waters, Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld. It's 5 o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five. Well, just moments ago, the White House announcing, quote, a new milestone, touting, listen to this, 4,000 criminal illegals removed from Minnesota.
This includes violent killers, rapists, gang members and other public safety threats since the beginning of Operation Metro Surge. And now President Trump is laying out his next moves to stop the left wing agitators in Minnesota in a Super Bowl interview to NBC.
Mr. President, speaking of Minneapolis, what did you learn? I learned that maybe we can use a little bit of a softer touch, but you still have to be tough. These are criminals. We're dealing with really hard criminals. But look, I've called the people. I've called the governor. I've called the mayor, spoke to him, had great conversations with him.
And then I see them ranting and raving out there literally as though a call wasn't made.
Tom Homan is also laying down the law. He's pulling 700 immigration agents out of Minnesota, leaving about 2,000 there. And it's because city law enforcement is finally cooperating with local jails in order to get dangerous offenders deported. Now, as for a full pullback of agents, the border czar says that that depends on the resistance, the agitators.
They must stop the illegal and threatening activities against ICE and its federal partners, like those ridiculous road checkpoints.
We will not draw down on personnel providing security and responding to hostile incidents until we see a change in what's happening with the lawlessness of the impeding and interfering and assaulting of ICE and Border Patrol officers.
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Chapter 2: What new milestone did the White House announce regarding criminal illegals?
The roadblocks being set up, you're not going to stop ICE. You're not going to stop Border Patrol. The only thing you're doing is irritating your community and want to go get groceries or pick the children.
But it doesn't look like Democrats are heeding Holman's words. Yesterday, they held a hearing on Capitol Hill and made it very clear that they want scalps. Every single one of them has to be held accountable for the crimes, for the terror, and for the murders that are happening to our own people in this country.
We are slipping further and further into a full-on dictatorship.
What we are dealing with, as far as I'm concerned, is a lawless regime.
And this.
That's all of our residents are using right now to protect themselves in the streets. This needs to be dismantled. Rashida Tlaib, she had a whistle prop. Dana, you know, President Trump said that he wanted a softer touch, and he is right.
At the end of his comment, he said, you know, I'll call the governor, I'll call the mayor, and then I look and they're out with this hot rhetoric, and there has been that disconnect. So I think that when you need something to de-escalate, then everyone needs a reason to say that they won a little bit or they got a little bit of something. And everybody in this case has.
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Chapter 3: What does President Trump propose to combat left-wing agitators in Minnesota?
So Tom Homan is able to say we are able to draw down a certain amount of... Agents that are there because we are getting more cooperation. And then that means that the governor and the mayor and the locals can say we got them to draw down because we have whatever arguments that they're making.
So if if the goal last week was to lower the temperature and get more cooperation and to remove Border Patrol. All of that has happened. And then you had the White House statement that you read at the beginning, which is that 4,000 have been apprehended, criminal, illegal aliens. That's a lot of people.
And I'm sure that there's going to be people on the opposition to President Trump that will look through and ask if every single person, do they have some connection as a rapist or a murderer and a gang member? And what's interesting to me is that they don't put out the number that says we're halfway to the goal. We're two thirds of our way to the goal. We're almost there.
Or like, I don't know, maybe they're not. Maybe they're just begin. I don't know how it's I think that that would help us all understand, like, are we getting to a point where this can work? be drawn down. So for the people who are putting up the roadblocks, and I agree, annoying the neighbors or like the climate protesters, it's blocked the highway and won't let people get to work.
It doesn't help their cause. It's not persuasive in any way. And it's illegal. So if local law enforcement breaks up those people, like you can just see right there, these like fake roadblocks where you're like telling on your local neighbors is absolutely insane.
If local law enforcement helps get that out of the way, then I think, again, like you just you keep sort of just advancing that ball down the field to the point where you can say, OK, our work is done here. But I just wonder about that number. If they've gotten 4000, how many more are we waiting for last? Yeah.
You know, Jesse, Democrats are at a crossroads because they've got to appease these folks. This is part of the base, these protesters. And Chuck Schumer's own internal polling reportedly shows that Democrats don't want to abolish ICE. They may want to change it. They don't want to abolish it.
And yet there's this fragment of the Democratic Party that says we don't want more DHS funding until you cease operations entirely in Minnesota. Yeah, that's not going to happen. I wonder what Walls learned. They asked Trump what Walls learned. If Walls could go back in time and listen to the whistleblowers over Somali fraud and cooperate with ICE, he wouldn't be under two federal investigations.
Two people wouldn't be dead and everybody would be fine. He locked horns with the Trump administration and has nothing to show for it. His mayor is under federal investigation. His AG is under federal investigation. His lieutenant governor is under federal investigation. And they just pulled all these bad hombres out of there. And now I think what?
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Chapter 4: How is local law enforcement responding to immigration enforcement in Minnesota?
All the Nazi stuff, the Civil War stuff, all the violence against ICE agents, the deaths in the street. There is no way if he could go back in time, he would have done this the same way. He would have done it completely differently. So you ask the president if he could go back, would he have done things differently? Well, where does the president stand right now?
He's sucked out about 4000 criminal aliens out of this precinct and he's forced these people, the locals, to open up their jails. And he is committed to the mission. We still have 2000 ICE and Border Patrol agents in that city. And crime has dropped to a hundred and twenty five year low. You got to look back and say, OK, we had some issue with two individuals who got way out of hand.
We wish that didn't happen. But in a whole, you still have polls where a majority of the country supports deporting every single illegal alien in this country, whether they've committed a crime or not. And now he looks like the adult in the room because he was the one that reached across the aisle.
He was the one that sent home and and he was the one that says, you know, you know, we could have done things. At least he's giving and he's not talking about Gettysburg. The lesson here for Democrats nationally is to cooperate. It's that simple. And if you don't see that, then you want violence. Maybe they do want violence.
I mean, I love, Jesse, that you always bring this back to fraud because, Greg, that that is what this was all about.
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Chapter 5: What challenges do ICE and Border Patrol face in enforcing immigration laws?
And I think absolutely Tim Wall saw an opening. Let's go after ice because it distracts from me having to drop out of the governor's race. Yeah, but it was only a delay tactic and it's going to come back to get him. He's toast. I think I speak for most people when you're getting kind of bored with Minneapolis. Yeah. I feel like I could drive Uber there, like I could get an Uber job.
I've been down every street. I that's the snow and the roughly paved roads and the clouds. It's like very can we if leftists. Go to Honolulu next or Aspen someplace different that, you know, here's the deal. You bring up money and money is what's driving this. Waltz and Frey Fry are now allowing local law enforcement to cooperate with ICE.
So you only need a fraction of agents, which is why you're drawing down. You said you need 11. Now you need two for arresting. And that's for obvious reasons, right? It's easier to get them out of jail than chasing them down the street and having people charge them in cars or try to tackle them or spit on them or whatever.
But also, and this is the big thing that the media isn't reporting, the writings on the wall with Seattle. That verdict, which was paying out $50 million to the family of a man who was killed in CHOP, which was the protest-run area of the city, Minneapolis is looking at least to eight-figure settlements. They haven't said it yet, but they will. The pretty and the good families.
And they're not going to get the money from ICE because it's not ICE's responsibility. And it's really, really hard for the mayor who said he apologized to those families. So he already admitted it was their fault. So they're not going after ICE. They're going to have to go after who's responsible.
And the police weren't there because the mayor and Waltz ordered them to stand down, which then created the deadly environment that we've seen. So if this were to continue, this city would experience the most expensive political theater ever. Those were two. What if you get another one and another one? And the problem is... The protesters want more.
They want another martyr, but they don't have to pay the price. The city will. So all the all the all the taxpayers are this border tactic reveals a pattern that you've seen over and over again. They accuse you of something bad to allow them to do the bad thing. So they accuse ICE of Gestapo tactics and then they do Gestapo tactics.
A nurse will accuse the MAGA staff of racism so she can then target the MAGA staff for their racism and say they don't treat patients equally. A teacher will accuse white kids in their class of white privilege, of racism, so she can then call out their whiteness in front of kids.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of the recent accountability hearings held by Democrats?
Each one of those three actions works. are wrong, but they construct an accusation beforehand to allow them to do that. The blockades are way more authoritarian than anything ICE did, and it makes you wonder what else protesters would do. This is what happens when you put the mob before the law. They become the law.
Would they then decide they're going to take kids from the homes of Trump supporters? You could laugh. But in the name of compassion, you're helping those kids get away from racists. Would you tell doctors not to treat injured ICE agents? Well, we've already heard that already. Or Trump voters? We've heard that. Would you put people in camps who won't back trans surgeries?
Again, you say that would never happen. In the name of compassion, you have no idea what they'll do. You'll have no. They butchered children. So don't put it past it. This is actually an example of a slippery slope that really does exist. Once you give the mob power, it's hard to take it away.
Chapter 7: How does President Trump view the current state of crime and law enforcement?
Jessica, when you look at some of the numbers in Texas, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee and Louisiana, there were one hundred five thousand two hundred forty five thousand criminal illegal aliens that were taken. No chaos, no deaths. Easy. Seven of the 10 safest cities are places that cooperate with ICE. So why not just cooperate from the get go?
Well, I mean, I hate to say it again, but I guess as we're doing the same topic, I have always said that if ICE shows up and they show you proof that they are trying to pick up someone who has committed a crime in this country, not the crime of crossing the border, but committed a crime here, especially against an American citizen, that you should cooperate.
And maybe things would have gone differently. But... The analysis that I'm hearing of, you know, the protest, the wild protesters versus law and order just does not sync with reality. And Tom Homan admitted it as much in his first press conference when he called it at seven o'clock in the morning. And he said, I would not be here if mistakes were not made.
We will see what happens in the investigations into the two officers shot Alex Preddy and Officer Ross, who shot Renee Good. And they might find that There was bad behavior that they made mistakes and that it wasn't the protesters fault for, you know, hurling her car into him or whatever Alex Petty was doing. But you have to let that play out.
You also have to be clear eyed about the fact that this is clearly partisan for the president. And you look at what happened in Maine. There were surging ICE agents to Maine. And Susan Collins called up DHS Secretary Noem and said, actually, could you get them to leave? And she said, sure, no problem.
Why?
She's running for reelection.
But that's partisan.
Amy Klobuchar makes a request. Go away. Tim Walz says go away. Mayor Fry says go away. Tina Smith says go away. That doesn't matter to the president because they bat for the wrong team. But because he wants to help Susan Collins and he knows what a loser of an issue this is for the administration, he makes sure to protect her. And that's borne out across the board. You won't.
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