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Chapter 1: What are the key issues surrounding James Comey?
Hello, everybody. I'm Martha McCallum, along with Emily Campagno, Jessica Tarlow, Jesse Waters, and Greg Gutfeld. It is 5 o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five. There's a graphic right there. And then he called Hillary Clinton extremely careless for her handling of classified documents. But now it looks like those same words could be applied to his handling of social media.
Former FBI Director James Comey now under investigation because he posted a cryptic picture of seashells formed in the shape of 8647, which is widely interpreted as a mafia era death threat. eight miles away and six feet deep, 86. Now, Comey's claiming ignorance on this, deleting the post. But President Trump told Brett Baier it is plain and simple.
He knew exactly what that meant. A child knows what that meant. If you're the FBI director and you don't know what that meant, that meant nothing to him. Now, he wasn't very competent, but he was competent enough to know what that meant. And he did it for a reason, and he was hit so hard. Because people like me, and they like what's happening with our country.
Our country's become respected again, and all this. And he's calling for the assassination of the president. Obviously, he apologized. Well, he apologized because he was a dirty cop. He's a dirty cop. And if he had a clean history, I could I could understand if there was a leniency. But I'm going to let them make that decision.
So it should not come as a surprise. But President Trump and James Comey obviously have a lot of history. The former FBI director once fantasized about what it would be like. Could you actually lock up the president of the United States?
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Chapter 2: What controversial statements did Comey make?
Just put him in a double-wide somewhere out near the fence, out in the grass. And he would eat there, he'd shower there, he'd exercise there, he'd be away, as Donya Perry said, from general population.
Incredible. All right. So let's go first to the veracity of this issue, Jesse, of the potential. I don't know about you, but I have never once and I've walked down the beach a lot. I have never in my life come upon a political statement on the beach made out of sea life. So I find this to be a bit too coincidental. Put up this one. There's another one on his Instagram feed as well.
This one, another blue painted shell that he found in October of 2024 when he was walking down the beach. Vote Harris. And he posted this as well. And he said, Ariel understands the assignment. Do you think that these are being constructed by James Comey with his little shells and then he takes the picture or not?
Dust the shells for Prince Martha. I don't know if he made it or not. He obviously was trying to put a hit out on Trump, got caught, deleted it, and he's got a book out. Oh, what a coincidence. Any cop, any prosecutor knows the code for homicide. 8-6 isn't just a mafia slang. It's a military slang. 8-6, T-O, and a rotary phone. He was a Marine. He obviously knew what he was doing here.
And he's not just any old FBI director, Martha. He tried to frame this guy for treason. Remember, he spied on his campaign. He got caught, got fired, leaked, and then ran away from Durham so he wouldn't have to ask, answer any questions. He has called Trump a dangerous threat to the country who should be punished for the things he says. Now, I don't know if this guy wants attention for the book.
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Chapter 3: How do the speakers view Trump's handling of Comey?
And by the way, the book is about right-wing extremists who launch a terror attack in Manhattan. Or if he wants to be arrested because his life sucks. He's lost all his respect. No one likes him. And he's probably dying and goading the administration to put him in handcuffs because that's all he really has anymore going for him. This man has set the Democrats back again.
Everybody with common sense knows what this guy meant. Just like we knew it was MS-13 on the knuckles, Jessica. Everybody knows 86-47. So the whole country sees this and then they lie about it. And then this is the guy that weaponized the entire Justice Department against President Trump. And it just reminds everybody the lengths the Democrats will go to lie.
Meanwhile, Trump, he's trying to make peace. And this guy's calling for his head. I hope the Secret Service knocks on his door at his little beach house and pays him a visit because this can't stand after two attempts on Trump's life. You can't take this lightly.
I hope they figure out if his hands were just all over those shelves, painting them.
Is there sand in your fingernails, Comey?
Let me see your fingernails. Seriously, Jessica Tarloff, I mean, this is strange. This is strange behavior. It's like weirdly childish, the stuff he posts. When you go back and look at the way he posts things, I mean, he's out of a job. He can live any way he wants. He's writing this book. He's been writing novels.
But what do you think about the fact that he was willing to post this thing, which is such an odd, and then pretend like he doesn't know what it means?
It was really stupid, but it is also First Amendment protected speech. And 86ing, I'm not as familiar with the mafia lingo, but I do know what happens in restaurants when they say, like, 86 the meatloaf, and that means they're out of meatloaf. I also know that if you go on Amazon, you can find tons of swag that says 8646, which I guess in Jesse's terms was about kill Joe Biden.
I know on Donald Trump's Truth Social feed that I saw that video with Joe Biden hogtied in the back of a truck, which I'm pretty sure means, you know, don't treat him with respect that the, you know, the office. But it wasn't the FBI director who was doing that stuff.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of Comey's social media posts?
And, you know, I have 11 days before the election coming out and saying that they're reopening the investigation into Hillary Clinton to be the most stupid and that that did actually cost her the election in the end in 2016. But. James Comey has bothered me once again. It is leading every cycle. I wanted to come in and talk about the big, beautiful bill failing in the House Budget Committee.
And now I have to talk about Comey. So mission accomplished that way. But it was just dumb. Let's let's play this from Tulsi Gabbard with Jesse last night.
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Believe Comey should be in jail.
I do. Any other person with the position of influence that he has, people who take very seriously what a guy of his stature, his experience, and what the propaganda media has built him up to be, I'm very concerned for the president's life. We've already seen assassination attempts. I'm very concerned for his life.
And James Comey, in my view, should be held accountable and put behind bars for this. So, Greg, what do you think should happen?
I don't know. I think, you know, throw him in jail. You just kind of look. Look, he went to the beach because he's all washed up. I like the thing I like is how the dying media is portraying this story as conservatives pounce. on this. Oh, my God, they're making it out into something it really isn't. You guys invented the pounce. You know, Elon Musk makes a salute.
You spent a week on that, talking about how that was Hitlerian and how all Trump supporters were Nazis. The only exercise the media gets is by pouncing. So we're going to pounce a little. You guys hit the showers. The people who pounce every day on every little thing Trump has said and created hoaxes off nothing do not lecture us on blowing things out of proportion. There's so many people.
whose identity is tied forever to Trump. But it's their choice. It's not like Trump spends his life thinking about this chuckle nut. This guy has Trump on the brain all the time. Trump has created a legion of people whose brains are somehow broken. And I said this, I think, yesterday.
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Chapter 5: How is Trump's approval rating trending?
OK, you've said enough about aging rockers. Martha, how what do you think Jessica was trying to say there?
Because I couldn't really figure it out. She said the numbers don't necessarily add up. But I would just say this. Some of the response from Democrats. Is, you know, it's amazing what can be accomplished when the president isn't effing brain dead, says a senior congressional Democratic aide.
This whole Middle East trip shows for a lot that for a lot of negotiations, what you really need is somebody who has the energy and level headedness to actually get it done. And I think a lot of Democrats sit back, especially people who worked for Joe Biden, and they see that he never looked at these things strategically.
He went in there with a fist bump because he was only thinking 30 seconds ahead of that moment. Right. So what are people going to say when I actually greet him? Then at the G20 later, he shakes his hand as if that's some sort of big accomplishment with MBS, with the crown prince of Saudi Arabia.
But, you know, think back on this, because Joe Biden was never capable of this kind of bold action and thinking when it came to the Middle East. If it were up to Joe Biden, Osama bin Laden could still be alive. He was a no go. in that moment in the Situation Room, right? And that's who Joe Biden is.
He is not the person who's going to walk in there and shake up the chessboard and say, look, we have a lot of past. You know, you talk about the human rights violations. Look at Japan. Years after World War II, we figured out a way to work on the same page. No one denies 9-11. The fact of the matter is that after a war, which is what we had over 9-11, you have to start to put the pieces back in.
What he says, how about if we're friends and we isolate Iran? This is what President Trump is doing. Iran is looking at all of this going, we're out in the cold. And maybe it's actually time that we should make a deal. So that's the big message here. And President Trump said... No 30-page proposal for Iran. It's one page. You cannot have nuclear weapons.
If you pursue this program, we will obliterate you. So that's the choice that's on Iran's table. We're going to watch that really closely. But Biden never had the kind of boldness to do what we saw this week.
I'm sorry. I'm just still stuck on what Jessica said.
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Chapter 6: What recent achievements does Trump highlight?
Now, I think I'm trying to figure this out. So you're saying that Trump spent all week signing all of these billion dollar deals and no other person from the Biden administration put their hand up and said, we did that. That was us. The first I'm hearing from it is from you, Jessica.
Wouldn't be the first time that I didn't think the Biden administration did their comms correctly.
Okay. You'd think someone would be like, oh, that was our deal. But no, it's just strange where she pulls these things out.
Out of the Washington Post.
Again, that doesn't help your cause. What are you talking about? It's the Washington Post.
Jeff Bezos is a Trumper now.
He is?
Have you not been paying attention?
Then it's half right. Go ahead.
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Chapter 7: What criticisms do speakers have of Biden's foreign policy?
The same the same status quo and the same leaving our blood and treasure in different countries all over the world, because no one had a bigger or a greater or a different vision to not just incur and not just buy.
blow in, but actually to say actually a long-term economic investment where all parties have the same vested positive interest as many of those countries that Trump met with all week were saying prior to October 7th that all hate the Iranian proxies because they are absolutely interfering with the prospect of economic flourishing under our partnership. Nothing like that would have happened.
So the fact that a high-ranking Biden official literally said like, oh, younger Joe Biden could have done that, They said he could have done the deal with the Houthis. Absolutely. When he was chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, it reminds me of watching the Olympics when we're all seeing, you know, fat and eating chips on our couches.
And we're watching these like 17 year olds, you know, race 10 miles in five seconds to be like, oh, she didn't point her toes. I give her the silver like the armchair quarterbacking and not recognizing the incredible feat. This is that it shattered. the norms of decades that you can only do something this way and there's an absolute separation between business and economic interests.
I mean, it kills me. But what's funny is Trump calling himself like the cheerleader for America. Obviously, I was like, I got it. And then I was like, what is the analogy? What was Biden? And then I thought to myself, yeah, he was Walt Coleman. He was the ref that called the tuck rule.
While Trump is the cheerleader for America that gets things done, Biden was the ref that blocked teams from any type of advancement. He's the one that called the immaculate reception when it should have been an incomplete pass. And every Steeler fan and every Patriots fan, I'm talking to you.
Up next, Democrats are tripping over Biden's mushy mind.
An illegal alien from Guatemala.
Well, Democrats face a huge credibility crisis over Biden's decline. Politico is noting how the Biden question is hanging over the 2028 field of Democrats. They can run, but they can't hide from the tape. Watch.
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Chapter 8: How do the speakers assess Trump's approach to Iran?
So Greg said there's two answers they can give. And it's tough. But this is how you do it. I shouldn't say it, but this is how you say listen. I saw Biden slow down. I didn't say anything because my party wasn't saying anything and I was trying to be a loyal guy. I should have had a little more courage. I learned my lesson. It won't happen again. That's all you have to say.
But for some reason, politicians can't admit they're wrong. We have politicians still saying, yeah, the Iraq war, I'd do it again. Kamala Harris said, yeah, let's do taxpayer sex change surgeries for migrants in prison. She never said, actually, you know what? That was dumb. They just have to admit they're wrong. For instance, sometimes I say, you know what? I interrupted Jessica too much.
Sometimes Jessica could say, you know what? I lied about what Trump claimed about all these contracts I got in the Mideast. We could all have a little humility.
All I would say is that sometimes you have to love the country more than you love your party and winning. And there was no person who stood out in terms of their integrity and their ability to say, I really care about this president. I like him, but I must say what I see. Short of maybe George Clooney.
At that point, this is there is no you cannot say that winning is important enough to put someone in office or even have them be the nominee who can't function. And I think there needs to be a hearing. And I think the question of why no one said, look, this might have been why there's a 25th Amendment. because there's no one at home. There's nothing on his schedule.
He's not meeting with his cabinet members. Months and months and months go by. The cabinet members are like, nobody calls me back. So that's a real problem in terms of national security and leadership and presidency.
Well, we have a Fox News alert right now, everyone, with sources telling Fox News that former FBI Director James Comey is meeting right now with Secret Service officials in Washington after his 86-47 post. This is not an arrest, but a standard interview. And we will bring you the information as soon as we get it. Up next, a liberal soy boy says there's nothing manly about supporting Trump.
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