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The Five

TMZ: FBI Looking At Ring Cam

12 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

4.25 - 26.021 Jesse Waters

Hello, everybody. I'm Jesse Waters, along with Brian Kilmeade, Kennedy, Dana Perino and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five. Fox News alert day 12 in the desperate search for Nancy Guthrie.

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26.182 - 49.63 Jesse Waters

The Pima County Sheriff's Office begging the public to cough up any kind of video taken within a two mile radius of Nancy's house in the month leading up to her disappearance. TMZ has gotten their hands on a ring cam surveillance video showing a man five miles away from Nancy Guthrie's house the night she disappeared. For more on that, let's go to Trace Gallagher in Tucson with the latest. Trace.

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50.943 - 70.555 Jesse Waters

And Jesse, the reason the FBI is so interested in the video you just mentioned obtained by TMZ is because the person in that video was about the same timeline, right? Also carrying a backpack that had reflective stripes on it, just like the backpack that the person had on on the doorstep of Nancy Guthrie's home. But here's the problem with that.

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70.535 - 101.088 Jesse Waters

That video that we are looking at was taken at 1.52 in the morning, right? Now, remember, the sheriff's department says at 1.47 here at Nancy Guthrie's house, the Nest Cam was taken down. It was disabled. So... If this five miles away video was taken at 152, that makes it impossible for this person to have literally come to Nancy's house at 147 and then made it back five miles away at 152.

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101.79 - 123.576 Jesse Waters

But here's the other thing. TMZ is saying that they have a law enforcement source that says the video we're watching of the guy who's trying to open the gate with the backpack, wearing a backpack and holding one, actually, the timeline is different. They believe that the video on the front porch of Nancy Guthrie's house was taken at 2.12.

123.556 - 141.312 Jesse Waters

If that's the case, then the person in the video that we're seeing today, the brand new video, would have had 18, 19 minutes to be able to get to Nancy Guthrie's house and then put the backpack on or give it to somebody else and that person to change clothes. Then it would be very relevant.

141.332 - 153.563 Jesse Waters

So the bottom line here is if this person is relevant to the case, either the sheriff's department is wrong, Jesse, or TMZ is wrong, and that's kind of how the timeline

Chapter 2: What new evidence has emerged in the search for Nancy Guthrie?

153.543 - 168.42 Jesse Waters

out. Trace, thank you so much. And now out to the big news in Minnesota. Tom Holman announcing the end of Operation Metro Surge in the Twin Cities after rescuing missing kids and bagging thousands of bad hombres.

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169.741 - 186.006 Tom Holman

In addition to taking public safety threats off the street, ICE here in this state have located 3,364 missing unaccompanied alien children. Children that the last administration lost and weren't even looking for.

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186.486 - 205.251 Tom Holman

With that, and success that has been made arresting public safety threats and other priorities since this surge operation began, as well as the unprecedented levels of coordination we have obtained from state officials and local law enforcement, I have proposed, and President Trump has concurred, that this surge operation conclude.

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209.264 - 215.775 Tom Holman

A significant drawdown has already been underway this week and will continue to the next week.

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215.795 - 224.269 Jesse Waters

And America's sweetheart apparently has a sweetheart for some of those bad hombres. Katie Couric is saying no biggie to violent criminal migrants.

225.447 - 249.161 Greg Gutfeld

Isn't all this talk about ridding the country of violent criminals a massive overstatement? If less than 14%, again, of the 400,000 immigrants being arrested had charges or convictions for violent criminal offenses. What about the 14%? Such a low percentage of 400,000 people.

249.602 - 275.551 Jesse Waters

If your daughter gets raped by the guy that gets back out and he's one of the 14%, I don't think you're going to quibble about whether it's 14% or 64%. Let's talk to Brian Kilmeade, who suggested Tom Hogan go out to Minnesota. It's been two weeks later. How do you think it all shook out? First, our communication. Start talking to the mayor. Start talking to the governor.

275.591 - 290.868 Jesse Waters

Start talking to all the sheriffs. And also, I don't think he agreed with a lot of what Tom Bovina was doing. I don't think he agreed a lot of the Cristi Noem policies. And I think he was marginalized. And I think he was able to step up and say, I'll do this, almost like John Harbaugh with the Giants.

Chapter 3: Why is the FBI interested in the ring cam footage?

291.008 - 309.685 Jesse Waters

I'll take the job as long as I can report to the owner. He said, I'll take this job as long as I can report to you. And he said, trust me on this. I have Democratic support because I've done it in the past. He convinced him. I know the mayor and governor don't want to say it because they're afraid of losing some support. Those guys cooperated with him. They gave him access to the prisons.

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309.965 - 329.113 Jesse Waters

The sheriffs on the outskirts and the suburbs were already doing it. And then all of a sudden, Tom Holman comes in and start producing results, not disparaging them personally. Gives you 700 last week. Chuck Schumer doesn't say, OK, this is a win. He says that's a drop in the bucket. In what planet? They only have 600 cops, 6,600 cops. 700 is not a drop in the bucket.

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329.093 - 347.882 Jesse Waters

I just can't believe, and I know I'm taking a page from your book, Dana, but why Democrats don't take the win here. Bovino's been marginalized. Tom Holman stepped up. They've de-escalated the entire situation. They're not doing any of the randomized roving patrols anymore. And they have agreed to body cameras right off the bat.

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348.143 - 368.947 Jesse Waters

And they're talking about some other things when it comes to training. So this is a perfect way to go, OK. I got it. We can do this. Let's go on our codels. Let's call it a day. We've had 12 appropriation bills done. We could actually did things the right way for a change, but instead still holding out on Saturday. No more funding of the DHS. And Tom Holman's done a brilliant job.

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369.007 - 373.651 Jesse Waters

I think he's going to do it everywhere now. Your name was invoked, Dana. Would you like to say anything?

Chapter 4: What discrepancies exist in the timeline of events surrounding Nancy's disappearance?

373.811 - 394.77 Jesse Waters

Well, I do believe that Tom Homan, he has a gift at the podium that some people might say would they wouldn't necessarily have thought that initially. Right. But he has a steady, calm competence. When you can show competence in government, people will turn and look to you and say, OK, wait, tell me more. Show me more. And that's what he did. So we took this live today.

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395.271 - 413.504 Jesse Waters

It wasn't until the 18th or 19th minute. of his speech that he announces the news. So he really buried the lead. But before he did that, he listed all of those statistics. We showed one of them, or we played one of them, the 3,354 missing children that they were able to find in just that area.

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413.524 - 414.265 Dana Perino

That is amazing.

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414.245 - 436.133 Jesse Waters

that he has 87 sheriffs who are willing to cooperate with him. And then he says, so after all of this success and finalizing the mission, I have said to President Trump, I think we can draw down. And President Trump agrees. So we will leave a few people here to make sure everything's cool. We'll be seeing you later. To me, that is a great win for the Trump administration.

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436.153 - 450.089 Jesse Waters

But I also believe that the Democrats could say, look what we made them do. But, Dana, this is why he did it on the 17th minute or 12th minute, because they would not have taken the stats on the missing kids in the 4,000. And every network took it to the end. Yeah.

450.229 - 451.351 Dana Perino

He did a good job.

451.411 - 464.929 Jesse Waters

Greg, Katie Couric, that was quite an interview with Rand Paul. Yeah. She threw a picture up. Remember when she was called, like, America's sweetheart? Mm-hmm. A picture of her.

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Yeah.

467.519 - 492.356 Jesse Waters

She's gone from America's sweetheart to America's duck. Look at those, like, bizarro lips. By the way, they found 3,300 kids. I think we know where they belong, the Somali daycare. Yes. We couldn't find them. When Homan talks about mistakes being made, I don't think he's talking about ICE. because finding missing kids is not a mistake.

Chapter 5: How is Operation Metro Surge impacting public safety in Minnesota?

581.573 - 609.272 Jesse Waters

They were very violent in Venezuela or where else? Colombia or Mexico. I also love that. Tim Waltz, did you see that clip of him wants taxpayers to pay his state for damages? Did you see that? Who caused the damages? in that state. So he's like Jeffrey Dahmer suing a victim's family. Cause he got food poisoning. This guy is a, they're all idiots, but okay.

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610.568 - 633.05 Jesse Waters

Katie Couric tells you that we've been lied to for 30 years about what our media is. That was objective. We're now seeing the so-called mask come off and it's not pretty. And it's like now we know these people were lying to us about everything. Dan Rather was the first. Yeah. By the way, I love your tie. Right. Really? Yeah, I do. Strong stand. Yeah. Very strong stance. Right. Yeah.

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633.07 - 638.175 Jesse Waters

Do you work at Fox? Pro-America. Kennedy? Finally, someone is.

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639.931 - 655.553 Jesse Waters

Why should I say it's great to be here? Welcome, Brian. So Katie Couric used to be the perky morning show hostess. She hosted the Today Show with Brian Gumbel. And they were the first two people to discover what emailing was.

656.154 - 656.735 Ainsley Earhardt

Yeah, I remember that.

656.755 - 679.328 Jesse Waters

Yeah, that's stupid. And Katie's like, I don't know. Let's put something up my butt. She did to save lives and she did. And I will forever thank her for that. She has certainly lost her way. It seems like she's not auditioning to get a job once again at CBS because she has been culturally ineffective going on her on her. own rogue YouTube channel over the years.

679.388 - 696.556 Jesse Waters

She has always needed a network to prop her up because unfortunately she's got some bad ideas. The way for her to play this, especially with someone like Rand Paul, who oftentimes goes rogue from his own caucus. would be to say, you know, we needed to get the 14 percent. That's fantastic.

696.857 - 719.162 Jesse Waters

But how can we in other cities just focus on that 14 percent instead of minimizing it and saying, you know, 14 percent really isn't that bad? And because it is the bad, it is the worst of the worst. And I think the point of this Tom Homan experiment was to show that people like Tim Walz and Jacob Fry and governors and mayors across the country who are plagued

Chapter 6: What are the implications of Katie Couric's comments on violent criminals?

766.795 - 780.819 Jesse Waters

And I think this is ultimately what the president wanted all along. There was a civil war within his administration there. And I believe that we're seeing Tom Holman is the Ulysses S. Grant here. I like that. And Kristi Noem is the George McClellan.

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780.899 - 782.462 Ainsley Earhardt

A footnote in history.

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782.622 - 801.934 Jesse Waters

But one thing, I don't think that the activists slowing down has anything to do with this. Because they don't care. They actually thirsted for the spectacle. If you take the crimes that Greg pointed out, it comes up to 70 percent. So if you take the so-called nonviolent crimes that are serious crimes, it's 70 percent.

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801.974 - 812.464 Jesse Waters

Seven out of every 10 who have been taken out or are now being holding cells have committed serious crimes. Ladies, did you understand that math? Could you do it again? Show your work.

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812.484 - 813.825 Ainsley Earhardt

We'll do it. We'll do it again.

813.865 - 820.851 Jesse Waters

We'll show the work. Thank you. All right. Coming up next, the Democrats going absolutely ballistic on Pam Bondi.

821.995 - 847.048 Unknown

And I told you about that, Attorney General, before you started. You don't tell me anything. Yeah, I did tell you because we saw what you did in the Senate. I just want to drink till I'm not wasted. I just want to sleep till I'm not tired. This is Ainsley Earhart. Thank you for joining me for the 52-episode podcast series, The Life of Jesus.

847.088 - 856.626 Unknown

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864.132 - 873.248 Jesse Waters

And not much policy, but a whole lot of chaos on Capitol Hill yesterday. Attorney General Pam Bondi sparring with some very, very angry Democrats during the House Judiciary hearing. It went like this.

Chapter 7: How are Democrats responding to the recent political controversies?

1542.567 - 1573.993 Jesse Waters

Now, I also learned they're still doing land acknowledgments. Everybody still has pronouns in their bio. Does anybody know LGBTQIA plus? They're adding letters. We don't even know what these are. I. A. Does anybody know what I a plus stand for? Kill me. You know, a asexual, asexual. What's I? Oh, is it really intersex? What is that? Intersex? I don't know. It's probably Gavin Newsom.

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1574.013 - 1576.896 Jesse Waters

It's when you have sex in an intersection. Oh, I didn't know that.

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1576.956 - 1577.316 Unknown

Thank you.

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1577.337 - 1598.822 Jesse Waters

Who hasn't? Well, thank you for that biology lesson. I promise I'll never read the whole article again. So, Dana, you know, you're watching this. You see Jennifer Newsom grab the microphone. This is a pivotal moment in her husband's career. You know, he has emerged as the frontrunner for the presidency.

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1598.802 - 1616.302 Jesse Waters

And now you've got all sorts of magazines like Marie Claire reaching out to her, wanting to do these glossy profiles, talking about like, you know, what would life be like if you were the first lady? It feels like she's kind of already measuring the drapes. Let's choose your fighter, right? Which which first lady would you rather have on the cover of magazines?

1616.322 - 1631.463 Jesse Waters

She probably will get a lot of that kind of coverage. But you know who wasn't invited to today's event in California? Halle Berry. Why? Because she says that they don't care about a very important women's issue that she's been trying to put forward and he won't return her calls. And she's out there fighting for it.

1631.723 - 1650.514 Jesse Waters

The other thing that they didn't seem to talk about at this abortion event was that President Trump has just made good on his promise to make IVF drugs more affordable for people. Why? So they can have babies. That is something worth talking about and grabbing the mic and screaming from the rooftops. What did you think of Gavin?

1650.594 - 1669.821 Jesse Waters

You were commenting, Brian, during the commercial break that you hadn't seen him This is a very politically incorrect commercial break group. I'm just saying I've never seen anything quite like it. One day they'll be televised. It's great. But I will I will say this. I've never seen he never looks uncomfortable. Gavin Newsom, you know, once in a while, the crossing legs, I got it.

1669.841 - 1681.239 Jesse Waters

But he always is very comfortable. He's being interviewed and talking to people and doing his podcast. That is the first time publicly you see that he really didn't have any idea what to do. And I think the reason is, is because he's controlling his image.

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