The Glenn Beck Program
Best of the Program | Guests: Allie Beth Stuckey & Justin Haskins | 2/3/26
03 Feb 2026
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Chapter 1: What recent law did Utah pass regarding its Supreme Court?
What is Utah doing? We have warned on the right about expanding the court for a long time now. That is a signal of a dying republic. And the Utah GOP expands the state Supreme Court? What is wrong with you, Utah? We talk about that also. She's just been lambasted in an editorial written by Hillary Rodham Clinton about how evil Ali Beth is.
She's a good friend of the program, and she's going to talk about that and why Hillary Clinton has it all wrong. And Justin Haskins, the next big crash. You don't want to miss any of today's podcast. Here it is. Sometimes the most important moments in a person's life happen when they feel the least prepared for them. A positive pregnancy test can bring a flood of emotions all at once.
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Chapter 2: How does Glenn Beck criticize the expansion of the Utah Supreme Court?
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Chapter 3: What is toxic empathy and why is it controversial?
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Chapter 4: How did Hillary Clinton respond to Allie Beth Stuckey's book?
So I found out this weekend that I was in the Epstein Files. And I first went, what? And then I realized it was him and some other dirtbag writing about basically how much they hate me and my listeners. And I was like, oh, I got to make a t-shirt. I was in the Epstein files because they hated me. I love that. That is a huge compliment. Yeah, it is, isn't it? You've got an even bigger one.
You've got Hillary Clinton writing an op-ed about how toxic your toxic empathy book is. I mean, that's got to feel good.
yeah you know i was talking to my dad and husband just having a nice afternoon chat and i looked out of my phone and it started buzzing and i got a message that said hillary rodham clinton just wrote a hit piece on you in all caps and i couldn't believe it until i read it myself and what's in what's interesting about this is that you know my book is not new it came out in october of 2024 so about 15 months later
We've got former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton taking out 6,000 words in The Atlantic to talk about how terrible my book is. You know, it is a badge of honor. It also helped book sales a little bit.
Chapter 5: What insights does Justin Haskins provide about the potential for a market crash?
But honestly, I'm just trying to figure out what her strategy is. So explain toxic empathy, what it is. Yes. Yes. This is something that she didn't distinguish in her op-ed to no surprise. You know, I think the left actually understands the concept. They talk about things like toxic masculinity, and what they'll say is that not all masculinity is toxic, but this form of masculinity is toxic.
And yet, when I talk about toxic empathy, they pretend that I'm saying that all compassion is toxic and bad, and that's not what I'm saying at all. I say that empathy becomes toxic when it leads you to do three things, to affirm sin, to validate lies, or to support destructive policies.
So your empathy becomes toxic when you feel so deeply for one particular person, a purported victim, that you are blinded to both reality and morality. You are so focused on this person that you forget that there are other people on the other side of the moral equation.
So you feel so deeply for the man who says that he is born in the wrong body and is meant to be a woman that you forget about biological reality and ignore the rights and the privacy and the fairness of the girls on the other side of the equation.
So I think that toxic empathy is really the explanation for the support of all kinds of destructive policies when it comes to immigration, crime, gender, abortion. And so it doesn't surprise me at all that progressives don't like that we're giving that a name and calling it out. So, Allie, explain it.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of toxic empathy in contemporary issues?
Go specific on the use of toxic empathy or the demonstration of toxic empathy, for instance, in Minnesota. Yeah. Yes, such a good question. So we see this decontextualized image of this young boy and he's standing with law enforcement officers and immediately and rightly it evokes a sense of sadness and outrage and pity for this boy who was put in this situation.
And then a narrative is attached to it. And instead of asking, hey, is this true or what's the alternative explanation? Our hearts want to believe that it's true because it seems right that this boy was kidnapped by these ICE agents. He was separated from his family. And this is the cruelty of the Trump administration. There's some confirmation bias there.
But really, we just feel so deeply for this boy that we believe the victim narrative that has been attached to him. And then because of that, you say riots are justified, the protests are justified, and abolishing ICE or defunding the police are all justified in the name of helping little boys like Liam. The problem is your empathy for that boy has actually blinded you to what is true.
It has paralyzed your critical thinking. So you're not asking the question that all of us need to ask, how do I know that's true?
Chapter 7: How does the conversation shift to the dangers of expanding the court system?
What's the greater context? Can I believe this person? What are the sources being cited? And what is the other side of the story that we are not being told? That is the danger of allowing your empathy to overtake or eclipse your critical thinking skills. We have to have both compassion and this truth and love approach that is necessary in our critical thinking process as we decide on policy.
You know, when you look at the Democrats, I've got something I'm going to talk about here in a little while about how the things that they're shouting at people, the things they're saying about, you know, I hope you die. I hope your wife dies. I hope your children are killed. All of these things. And they say, they claim they're doing it out of love. They claim they're on the side of love.
And those two things don't connect at all. I mean, that was the genius of Martin Luther King and Gandhi and Jesus. He connected them.
Chapter 8: What warnings does Glenn Beck give about the future of Utah and its governance?
Your words and your actions must demonstrate love and never cross into hatred or retaliation, revenge, any of that stuff. And they held the line. These guys don't have a line. And I think it's because of the loss of eternal truth. They've lost, or maybe never had, some of them, the understanding of what Jesus was actually teaching or what Martin Luther King was actually teaching.
And so they've become the exact opposite of those. And yet they don't see it. Yeah, gosh, so many good points there. There was a book that came out before mine in 2016 that wrote about the dangers of empathy from a secular psychological perspective by a Yale psychologist named Paul Bloom. And he talks about this concept of being full of empathy, but mean as hell.
And what he measured was that in students that measured higher on empathy, that they are actually crueler to the outgroups. So what happens is you feel so deeply for one purported victim that anyone who you see as in opposition to that victim, so in opposition to the illegal immigrant, in opposition to the woman seeking abortion, you can justify cruelty and hatred against them.
Because in your mind, you are fighting against the oppressor. And so really what happens there is when you exchange empathy for virtue, Christian virtue, what you're talking about, it actually doesn't make you more loving on the whole. it actually can make you cruel towards the people that you now perceive as your enemy.
And that is why exchanging the truth in love, exchanging true virtue for empathy is actually a very harmful exchange. So my concern, the thing I think of every day is how do we point this out? How do we save people? Because I think this This is why they emphasized on your feelings. They emphasized your feelings, your feelings, your feelings.
And Ben Shapiro for years said, facts don't care about your feelings. But that's why they emphasize feelings, because if you concentrate on feelings, then reason shuts down. And and then you get enraged and it shuts down even further.
So you have all these people that I think they're actually thinking they're doing the right thing, but they've shut down the thinking process so deeply that they're not. I mean, they're just trapped. So how do you reverse this? Yes, because feelings also don't care about your facts. And that's exactly why they emphasize the emotion.
And so, yes, facts and logic, all of those things are so important and do have the power. They can have the power to be persuasive and pull people out of their delusion. However, I also think that we need to tell the story on the other side of every issue.
Something I do in my book, I tell the story that the media is telling, for example, about a woman who wants an abortion but has been forced by these evil pro-life laws in Texas to keep her child. And of course, the left sees that as something that is draconian. But I tell the story from the baby's perspective.
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