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Glenn's Controversial Take on the Comey Seashell Indictment | Guest: Benny Johnson | 4/29/26
29 Apr 2026
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We didn't get a chance to talk about the Clinton Foundation yesterday. The king, the king's in town, the king's in town. Yay. What happened yesterday at the White House was pretty remarkable. But what a snot that guy is. I'm sorry. I know he's the king. I know he's the king. But I'm glad we're away from him. We'll get into that here in just a little while.
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Chapter 2: How does Glenn Beck view the FCC's role in media censorship?
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Yesterday. I'm not a reply guy, but I saw it and I said, this is a problem. This is a misunderstanding, and we should correct this. So I'm glad that your producer reached out. Glad we can chat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I saw it yesterday, and Benny, you know I respect you. And I know you're not a bomb thrower, and we could have a real conversation. And I might be missing something that you are seeing. I look at things. I've been in broadcast now for 49 years, so I know the FCC inside and out. I know all the rules, et cetera, et cetera, and I can't find my way around it.
In some ways, man, would I love to. I'm so sick of all of this stuff. But I want to make sure we're not violating the principles that we all hold dear. So I said yesterday that if I worked at ABC, if I were running ABC, I'd fire Jimmy Kimmel in a heartbeat because of standards. It's just it's reprehensible what he has done.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of Jimmy Kimmel's controversial joke?
And I would send a message to the country. We're not for that. And if I would have said something like that about Barack Obama at Fox, I would have expected to be fired. However, with that being said, I don't see the FCC move here. And if there is an FCC move, I'd prefer the president, although I do prefer that he's out in the open, unlike Joe Biden, where they're hiding it.
I prefer that it's not directed by the president. I prefer that it is something that is just... The FCC takes care of because it's a clear violation, but I can't find the violation. You may be able to. So help me out, Benny.
Sure, sure. So let's attack this from three different perspectives, Glenn. First, the moral obligations, then the regulatory obligations. And then what I find most important is the obligations of our movement in order to establish barriers and to have instructive moments. And I think this is one, certainly. The moral obligation. Glenn, you had a hit show on Fox for how many years? A decade?
You were the number one rated broadcast in the world on cable news for how long? I don't know. Two years. Okay. Either way, it was must-see TV. You probably the biggest chalkboard salesman in the history of the world. The chalkboard industry does love me. Yes. That's exactly right. Yes. Right. Yes. Yes. If you would. And you went out on your show and you were very prescient.
I mean, I got to tell you, man, there was nothing like Glenn Beck calling out the Soros Foundation from a thousand yards away when nobody was talking about this kind of stuff. You were talking about Bill. There is you were saying some pretty radical stuff about Barack Obama. All of it turned out to be true.
But you wouldn't even have been able to finish your opening monologue if you had said Michelle Obama deserves to be a widow. Correct. If you had said Michelle Obama deserves to be a widow and not only that, a glowing widow, meaning she would like for her husband to die, then you wouldn't have been you would have been pulled from the show. Right. You wouldn't.
And I. Yep. Right. And I would have. Am I wrong? However. Am I wrong? Am I wrong? No, no, no. But hang on just a second.
So if you said that about Hillary Clinton, if you said that about Hillary Clinton or Jill Biden, you would have been pulled as well. And if you would use Jimmy Kimmel's ratchet, so this is the moral, this is like the moral, we're talking about like the moral.
Yeah. Betty, wait. But I wouldn't have had the FCC come after me. Fox would have done it. The FCC doesn't have anything to do with cable news. So they couldn't have done it that way. What would have happened is the left would have mounted a campaign and the right would have folded. And Fox, honestly, I think Fox would have been right to fire me had I said something like that. Okay.
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Chapter 4: How does the conversation shift towards the FCC and broadcast standards?
So on every level, this should be knocked down. And the FCC... is going to. The FCC took action against ABC News in their own station yesterday. And I want to talk through why this is different than what we could say on this program or what we could say anywhere else, because you are free to say that. You are free. I would be free.
I would be free to walk into that bar and suffer the consequences of the farmer punching me in the mouth. Jimmy Kimmel is free to stand on a street corner, pick up a cardboard box, scribble on it and yell whatever he wants. He's gone to no King's protests. He's done this. I'm not saying Jimmy Kimmel shouldn't do this. I'm not against Jimmy Kimmel's free speech. That's free speech.
What I am against is taxpayer subsidized calls to assassination. which is what we are doing right now with Jimmy Kimmel. Let me explain. Jimmy Kimmel operates on a federal broadcast license. This is from the FCC. These are authorities that were granted to specific networks in 1923.
These specific networks have an option to operate on an electromagnetic spectrum that is considered a scarce public resource that the FCC manages and licenses publicly. specifically to prevent interference between stations so that they can have licensures and broadcasts in times of emergency.
These broadcasters must serve in the public interest and convenience and necessity and have core legal standards and obligations under the 1924 Communications Acts. These licensees do not own the spectrum. The government owns the spectrum. The government gives them a temporary privilege to use that spectrum. This applies to some AM, FM radio stations. It applies to all major public broadcasters.
That would be PBS, ABC, NBC, and CBS. They have to exist under a fair time, equal time in the public interest broadcast viewers, and they can be penalized or have their licenses stripped if they are found to be broadcasting profanity,
pornography, if they are found to be broadcasting untruths, things that they know are verifiable lies, if they're found to be operating outside of the public interest, which is a broad legal descriptor of what your broadcast should be. And I would argue, Glenn,
that since jimmy kimmel is using this billion if not trillions of dollars of infrastructure that was built by the government that's maintained by the taxpayers that has been serviced by our federal dollars that he should have to apply for these standards and these standards do not cover him making fun of charlie kirk's assassination calling for the assassination of a duly elected president
in no universe should that be allowed. So that is impermissible under the operations of Jimmy Kimmel and ABC News' lavish privileges that they get from the federal taxpayer dollars. Jimmy Kimmel can do what every other bum does and get on a street corner with a cardboard sign. He can start a YouTube. He can go on Spotify. Jimmy Kimmel can do whatever the hell he wants.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of Jimmy Kimmel's actions on FCC regulations?
You are violating our community standards. You are not serving your community. You say those things, and that puts a station on high alert. They have to keep that file. You have to send it to your local station and CC the FCC. When those things start to stack up, you got a thousand letters like that, the FCC then can go in and say, we're looking at your license.
How did you respond to these people? What did you do? How did you react to that? Did you just dismiss this? That gives the FCC reason to look into these things. Because, you know what, in New York City, Jimmy Kimmel is not violating community standards. He's not. But in a lot of cities, he is. He is. And ABC doesn't care about anything. The local stations, that's what they care about.
That's what they care about. And the local stations, if you pit them against ABC, ABC is just a network they're hiring to provide programming. They could do that for anybody. They just happen to have the ABC catalog.
If ABC becomes a problem for the local stations and the local owners are like, we're going to lose our license, they begin to act and they begin to push back on ABC and say, you're not losing our license for us. That's what causes the turmoil. It has to be done by the local stations. That just requires the FCC to enforce the law.
Both of these things require the FCC to do nothing except enforce the law that is already there. You're not making up new rules. You're not doing anything. You are just asking the federal government to enforce the law. And isn't that our frustration? I don't want the government to have more power. I don't want the FCC to have more power. Honestly, I want them to have less power.
But we're in a fight. You don't leave any tool in the box unless it's so disproportionate that it's crazy to use. You don't bring a nuclear weapon to a knife fight. But we are at war, and it's a war for our country and our civilization. These are two ways. I don't want President Trump, I understand him, I feel for him, and especially Melania.
This has got to stop, but this is the way to do it with the FCC. It must come from you, and the rest of it, they just must enforce the law, because Jimmy Kimmel can't get away with this. If he happens to be classified as news, that's not news. And that they can change tomorrow. All right, let me tell you about SimpliSafe.
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Chapter 6: What are the charges against James Comey in the seashell indictment?
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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Yesterday, James Comey was indicted on the seashell thing. We'll get into this here in a second. First, here's how he responded. Cut to.
This time about a picture of seashells on a North Carolina beach a year ago. And this won't be the end of it. But nothing has changed with me. I'm still innocent. I'm still not afraid. And I still believe in the independent federal judiciary. So let's go. But it's really important that all of us remember this is not who we are as a country.
This is not how the Department of Justice is supposed to be. And the good news is we get closer every day to restoring those values.
Okay, great. Good for you. All right.
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Chapter 7: How does the indictment compare to historical cases of free speech?
I want to make sure I'm consistent. Can you check with Glenn AI, Ricky? Have you checked with Glenn AI to see...
First things I did this morning, I knew we were going to have to talk about this story, and I want to know what you said back when this initially came out in 2025. You said at first you didn't think Comey meant kill him, and you interpreted it as getting him out of office. That was very, very generous of you. But then you heard Tulsi Gabbard...
Talk about how he actually may have violated the law. And you kind of changed course. And you said that he has spent his career prosecuting the mob. He knows exactly what 86 means.
So that's the way I remember it. I remember at first saying 86, because I believe 86 it. came from, uh, something in New York. I'm pulling this way out of my butt. Somebody in New York during, um, during prohibition and one street address on one side was like 125th and on the other side of the block, it was like 86 and it meant get out of that door, go 86 it.
So go through the 86 exit cause the cops are coming into the other exit. Um, And so I interpreted it more like that. But then I remember hearing Tulsi Gabbard talk about it, and she talked about him with the mob and how the mob uses 86. That is the order to kill. And so I adjusted and was like, well, no, he's not more of a historian. He's more of a prosecutor with the mob.
He would know exactly what that means. Okay, so I'm still there. He knew what that meant. This whole innocent bull crap. Okay. But now let's look at what he was indicted on. Here are the charges. Count one, threatening the president, a violation of U.S. Code 188718. I'm not going to read all these codes.
It makes it a crime to knowingly and willfully make a threat to take the life of or inflict bodily harm on the president of the United States. Is that what he did? Is that what he did? You got to go back to the Vietnam War. The Supreme Court, there was a kid. Jonathan Turley pointed this out the other day.
There was a kid in the Vietnam War who said, if they give me a rifle to fight and I have the opportunity, the first one I'll shoot is LBJ.
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Chapter 8: What does the budget crisis in New York City signify?
And the Supreme Court said that wasn't a violation. If that wasn't a violation, certainly seashells is not. And I'm not saying that's right or wrong. I'm just saying that's where the court decided with LBJ. And we were living in exactly the same kind of thing. People had been killed, etc., etc. Count two, transmitting a threat in the interstate foreign commerce. I love this one.
This prohibits knowingly transmitting via Instagram, which crosses state lines, a communication containing a threat to injure, kill another person. The indictment uses similar reasonable recipient language as above. Maximum penalty is up to 10 years, five years for each count. Now, This is not going to make me popular with you today, but that's okay.
My job is to tell you what I think and how I'm looking at it, and I'm not here to convince you of anything. I'm just here to tell you... This is what I think. And this is not going to be popular with people who are sick and tired, because I am too, sick and tired of these people getting away with anything. And you know what?
You could make a case to me that going after Al Capone for income tax was the right thing to do. But I wish we could get people on actual things that they did and not income tax. But... But I don't think this is income tax. I don't think you can prove anything. Now, let me say this. Jason, what did I say earlier this morning when I first came in and we first talked about this?
It's important that I preface it, and I didn't. So let me do it now. It is important that I preface it with what we know right now. For them to file this indictment with the seashell picture...
seems pretty light you know i mean that seems like anybody in the in the office would go uh... yeah that's not gonna work that's not gonna hold that'll be rejected immediately so with what we the things that are in the indictment that we don't know of and is there any indication of that jason
A little bit. The acting attorney general did say that it's up to the government to prove this, basically through receipts. So he acknowledged that this is, you know... There are receipts coming. That's what it sounded like, that there's more to come.
Okay. So here's my feeling on this. If there's more to come, there's really nothing to debate. We shouldn't be arguing with each other about this right now. We should watch and see what's coming. Why borrow trouble? Why argue with each other? Why call each other traitor names and you're just against this or you're just for this? Stop. We don't have all of the facts yet. Let's see this play out.
My initial take, if this is all they have, is two. One, it won't hold up constitutionally. And two... I'm not a fan of Pam Bondi. By any stretch of the imagination, am I a fan of Pam Bondi? I think Pam Bondi was an empty skin suit walking around. What did she do? What did she do? Now, we have this new acting attorney general who's coming in, and all of a sudden, we're starting to see things.
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