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The History Hour

Movie history: Seven Samurai and Casablanca

14 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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Imagine being here. Scientists have made the atomic bomb. The first one was dropped on a Japanese city this morning. Here. During the meeting, Mr. Mandela was informed of the government's decision regarding his release. And here.

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13.175 - 19.086 Sarah Jilani

Witnesses have spoken of a wall of water that swept coastlines in Sri Lanka, Indonesia, Thailand...

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Hear from the people who were there. He heard me praying while he was shooting and he just stopped. He said, I'm not going to. I'm going to leave you here to tell the story. Knowing that you have a spy and that you're following a spy, it doesn't get any cooler than that.

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Witness history brings you first-hand accounts.

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Merkel gets up and says, I'm going. And Tusk says, I'm locking the door. Nobody's leaving.

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You're reaching a compromise or you're not leaving this room. Was it shopping carts that made you rich? Well, they didn't make me poor.

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Listen now. Search for Witness History wherever you get your BBC podcasts.

62.603 - 81.27 Max Pearson

Hello, this is the History Hour with Max Pearson. This week's story is as featured on Witness History here on the BBC World Service. We're going to the cinema. Great moments from the world of film, including propaganda or art. The Nuremberg Nazi rallies in Lenny Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will.

Chapter 2: What makes Seven Samurai a landmark film in cinema history?

653.06 - 673.098 Max Pearson

Sarah Gilani is a lecturer in the Department of Media, Culture and Creative Industries at City St George's University of London, and Sarah is a specialist in Asian, African and Arab cinema. So let's start, Sarah, with Seven Samurai as our jumping off point, if you like. It was made in the 1950s as Japan was recovering and rebuilding after the defeat in the Second World War.

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673.118 - 679.573 Max Pearson

So would Kurosawa and other filmmakers in Japan at that time have been, if you like, remaking the idea of Japanese cinema?

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679.638 - 698.795 Sarah Jilani

Oh, undoubtedly. I mean, war is a very harrowing experience for an entire collective of people. And cinema has never been detached from essentially what society is feeling and thinking. It often becomes a tool of both critiquing and exposing your own conditions in these kinds of situations.

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699.256 - 707.063 Sarah Jilani

But it also becomes incredibly useful for imagining new identities and futures, you know, after traumatic events like wars.

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707.043 - 723.162 Max Pearson

And if we're going to talk about world cinema, the history of world cinema, we can't obviously cover everything. But if we look at world cinema, we have to reference Asian cinema and Bollywood. So if we go back to the 1950s, about the same time as Seven Samurai, would that have been something of a golden age for Indian cinema?

723.445 - 750.027 Sarah Jilani

Oh, certainly. Not only was Bollywood on the rise, but it was also getting incredible international distribution. So was something called Indian parallel cinema, which grew alongside Bollywood, but had Italian neorealist influences and dealt with Indian history in the moment. Both of these strands were also surprisingly really popular in Africa at the time before local industries had matured.

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And there is a tradition of African cinema as well. Now, I understand that there's a film called Black Girl that was made in 1966 that was particularly important as a major feature film from an African director.

763.625 - 782.578 Sarah Jilani

Yes, Black Girl or in the French original La Noire de, which actually is a little bit more sinister because it means the Black Girl of, implying belonging, is a 1966 film by a man who's now kind of remembered as the father of African cinema, Ousmane Sembène from Senegal.

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And would the success of those films, both from Bollywood and from African directors, they would have been driven by big audiences. Is that correct?

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