Joe Brumm & Hamish Blake - A Bluey-print For Dads
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What can we learn from playing with children?
I don't think my kids would have the dad that they have if Bluey wasn't around. I don't think I would have been able to recover from the mistakes I made as a parent without Bluey.
Joe Brum, the creator of Bluey, joins us with special guest host Hamish Blake to talk about play, presence, and the real impact we're having as parents.
They're watching you, and you're sort of part of their play even though you don't know it. You might not be down on the floor with them, but you are doing a pretty essential part.
It's not so much what you're doing as like you're the game. The fact that you're there, you're the game, like for them in that moment. That's what they'll remember.
How does Bluey impact parenting and play?
They'll remember the action of you just being involved.
I was at the park with our mum and my son. Mum's entertaining him and I got my phone out and I just looked at it and I got a very disapproving look from mum.
What is the best definition of play according to Joe Brumm?
Then she said, when I was your age and you were his age, she said, I saw everything you saw. I smelt everything you smelt. I heard everything you heard because I was there with you fully. You're not going to get that because you're not fully there. With our attention being pulled in a thousand different directions, how do we show up for our kids in a way that is meaningful to them?
If I am going to the toilet, the kids are like, give us your phone. Like, turn it in. I'm like, I'll be quick. And they're like, yeah, well, let's have it.
And welcome to today's performance of The Imperfects with Joe Brum.
Why do kids' imaginative play fade around age 12?
Today, the part of Ryan Shelton will be played by Hamish Blake.
So sorry to everyone expecting Ryan Shelton, but I have been understudying him for 30 years. And in true Ryan fashion, I have come with no prep. So I feel like I should just step into the bridge perfectly. I feel like you've watched a lot of Bluey. I have watched a lot of Bluey, Joe, and I've studied you for many years too. Lucky enough to be friends with you as well. So I've come with some prep, some prep and a keen interest. But can I just say, this is an honour to be guest host.
Well, it's wonderful to have you. And I think especially with today's topic, talking to Joe about Bluey and everything that comes with the extraordinary experience of... um what you've created joe i think just to say up front that i feel like the influence you've had on parents around the world and then hamish also with your how the dad's dad you are also officially a father of the year um good to get that comment on that thank you yeah well it's all about trophies that's what it's all about um And also Josh, probably my favourite dad. So to be having this conversation with all of you, it feels very special. But Joe, welcome. We're so excited to have you here.
Yeah, thanks.
How can parents find permission to play again?
Good to be here. You actually joined us on stage for our live show in Brisbane. And that was a couple of years now. I remember thinking, my gosh, this has to be an episode. It was so good.
Yeah, that was a good fun night, actually. It was great. I mean, it's the first time I'd seen your live show, obviously, and once I'd finished my thing, I just went and sat in the audience and loved it. The Eckhart Tolle doll. Oh, that's right. Eckhart Tolle. And you know what? I think maybe I told you this, but right at the time I was writing something that was going to be a movie, right?
What role does presence play in parenting amidst distractions?
I was going to write a whole new movie.
Mm-hmm.
But I'd gotten some advice, you know, and they were saying, listen, why don't you just write that as a TV series, you know, that makes more sense from this point of view. And I was like, okay, and I'd sort of gone along with it. And then at some point in it, I think it was your story, Josh, I can't remember the gist of it, but it basically just said, listen, you've just got to do what you feel like doing, you know, whatever makes sense. I'm probably paraphrasing you there.
Yeah.
How do the stories of Bluey resonate with real-life parenting?
I remember walking out the night going, I don't want to write another TV series. I want this as a movie. I want to start making movies. And now that is a movie and I love it. So, yeah, that's what happened that night.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What can we learn from playing with children?
0:01β0:38
2
How does Bluey impact parenting and play?
0:38β0:50
3
What is the best definition of play according to Joe Brumm?
0:50β1:26
4
Why do kids' imaginative play fade around age 12?
1:26β2:39
5
How can parents find permission to play again?
2:39β3:12
6
What role does presence play in parenting amidst distractions?
3:12β3:38
7
How do the stories of Bluey resonate with real-life parenting?
3:38β6:50
8
What are the benefits of allowing kids to lead in play?
6:50β1:30:13
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