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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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With me, John Molloy, we cover sport and we have things like this. If Andy Farrell really wants him to stay in the Irish set-up for the next World Cup, they could extend his contract out beyond the World Cup, but the Irish could pick up the tab on it. And Leinster, I'm sure, wouldn't object to having him in the squad if they weren't paying for him.
So it doesn't make sense that both of them want him, but none of them can keep him. There's no doubt in my mind that he would be in the Irish World Cup squad going forward.
Chapter 2: What are the challenges companies face with AI implementation?
He's still a very, very, very good player, very experienced.
Máire Sveig-Leon was one of the best writers, and Fats Tam was one of the best writers as well. And the writers who helped me with that, they were very kind to me, they were very kind to me, they were very kind to me, and they were very kind to me. I didn't have to write a book, I could write a book, and there was no one else from the other writers, other than me, who could do it for me.
That's why I'm proud of it.
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You are listening to The Big Tech Show with Adrian Weckler, sponsored by Deal. Deal lets you hire, manage, pay and equip anyone, anywhere. Visit deal.com slash bigtech. The Vatican makes, you know, and the encyclical made a very interesting point, and that was There is a level of fever around AI that does almost resemble religious worship and some of its proponents.
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Chapter 3: How has Pope Leo criticized the impact of AI on human dignity?
When you start, when you're like the CEO of Standard Chartered and you've drunk the Kool-Aid so much that you're referring to staff, you're letting go as lower value human capital. Well, you know, the Pope may come out and describe you as being like one of the guys who's trying to build the Tower of Babel. Hello, and you're welcome to The Big Tech Show with me, Adrian Weckler.
Now, we're all freaking out about companies ditching staff for AI. But as it turns out, the actual AI installations are often flops, wonky tech, unsustainable subscription costs and unprofitable returns. are now becoming common. Large household names are experiencing this.
We've got the likes of Starbucks, Pizza Hut and Klarna, who have either scrapped or reduced major AI deployments, some to replace staff, because the AI made things worse or was more inefficient. And Uber's chief operating officer just suggested that AI tokens may be more expensive and less effective to use than human staff. It has run out of its quota for the year already.
In Ireland, one survey measured at least 720 million euro in bad or ineffective AI investments, while only 11% of big Irish organizations that have invested in AI here have seen any return at all. with over two thirds wondering whether there'll ever be a return.
Chapter 4: What evidence suggests AI may not replace human jobs?
And that's according to William Fry's big annual technology report a few weeks ago. So for those who thought it was a given that AI will actually replace most, or even many of us at work, The evidence is starting to suggest that it may not quite turn out that way, at least in the short term. JJ Clarke is here with me to discuss this. There's been a real mood change, I think, JJ.
I'm listening to the founders of OpenAI, of Anthropic, in the last couple of weeks say that, no, in fact, contrary to what they were saying for the last two or three years, AI is not going to obliterate the workplace and that there is going to be a role for staff.
Now, I'm conscious that they're also getting ready for big IPOs and they don't want to freak the market out, particularly the financial firms who they're hoping will back them and make them very, very rich. Even still, I think there is a vibe shift going on.
Yes, yes, I think so. And I think that the sort of the temperature last year was... AI is going to replace everything. And then we had the tech layoffs there with Meta, I think it was about four weeks ago or five weeks ago. But that's changed. And even you gave, so the Uber example, there's the Starbucks example.
Chapter 5: What are the financial implications of AI investments for companies?
I'm I'm interested. I don't think it's going to come in and take everyone's jobs. I think, you know, it's like you're going to have knock on jobs that are created. But I think maybe they were trigger happy, I think, in in a sort of attempt to get an advantage. Companies have just wholesale bought into A.I. And then realized that it's not the panacea that it was supposed to be.
There are two things going on. First on the subscription costs. So a lot of big companies that are involved in coding or engineering, they will buy AI compute from the big companies, the open AIs and the anthropics. And typically they use up tokens. Okay.
And there's this term called token maxing, where up to quite recently and up to now, there has been kudos for using as many tokens as you can as an engineer per month. But they're very, very expensive. So we're now seeing examples of companies that are blowing through literally tens of millions of dollars a month using up AI tokens. And they don't know whether they have anything to show for it.
Chapter 6: How are major companies like Starbucks and Pizza Hut scaling back AI projects?
So the example I mentioned was Uber and its chief operating officer is a guy called Andrew McDonald. And he told the US podcast the other week. He said, and I'm quoting here, we're going to have to start talking about token consumption and the associated cost versus headcount. Because Uber went through its entire annual budget for AI tokens by the middle of April, I think it was.
And he was asked about, well, you know, what have you seen from that? Have you noticed any great efficiency? Are you making more money from it? And his answer to that was, well, that link is not there yet. He said, I think maybe implicitly there is more that is getting shipped.
But he says it's very hard to draw a line between one of those stats and say we're actually producing 25% more useful consumer features. And then he goes on to say, so if you're not actually able to draw a direct line to how much useful features and functionality you're shipping to users, the trade becomes harder to justify.
And what he is saying is we actually don't know if we're getting value from this AI that we're shipping.
Right. I think maybe just from his perspective, would you not just map on the key performance indicators from the human subjects that were working in those roles onto the AI roles and say, oh, have we got a new feature or have we not? Because essentially what they're doing is they're trading salaries.
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Chapter 7: What role does the concept of 'AI worship' play in corporate decisions?
So instead of paying a human being to work at a computer, they're paying...
Yeah, and you hear that sometimes. People will say, oh, I now have an AI colleague instead of, you know, a human colleague. They're trying to be sort of euphemistic about it. I don't know what Pope Leo thinks about that, if you read his encyclical. But you asked about, well, you know, metrics. How can you not just show that you're doing X and Y now that you've invested in AI? And his point is,
But we do have other metrics from some other companies that have noticed it's been a bit of a flop. So Starbucks, I mentioned, they have just cancelled an entire AI inventory system that they had invested in that would have replaced the functions of a combination of staff and software.
And the problem with it was it was supposed to do things like count, you know, coffee and let stores know how much they needed and how much there was a shortfall. And they found that it kept making basic errors, kept mislabeling products. There were complaints about it. The same thing happened.
to Pizza Hut, a major franchisee of Pizza Hut in the States with 111 outlets, is currently suing the parent companies, suing Pizza Hut, because the obligatory AI that they had to introduce changed.
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Chapter 8: How does Pope Leo's encyclical relate AI to the Tower of Babel?
It screwed things up so badly that orders went from being under 30 minutes to over 45 minutes. So that's just a major kind of... That's an ineffective implementation of AI that was supposed to at least augment or complement what staff are doing and in some cases replace them. We do actually have examples of replacement AI That has backfired.
The Swedish micropayments company Klarna, which had a very ambitious program to replace most customer service. And by the way, a lot of big companies are doing that. They're replacing customer service staff. That is one of the areas that AI is being rolled out. But in Klarna's experience, because they overestimated how many staff it could get rid of.
And I think they let, they had a plan to let, I think 700 people go and they placed it with AI and they had to rehire, they had to go back to hiring humans because the AI could just couldn't do it.
Yeah, I'm just interested in that. So, for example, the Pizza Hut example or the inventory with Starbucks. Is it a case? Is there an argument for if we get to a situation where there's none of those mistakes or a minimization of those mistakes? Are we saying we're back on the AI train again?
Oh, yeah. No, absolutely. The bottom line is going to kind of rule everything here. And look, it should be said, there are examples of Irish companies that are rolling out AI that are... not only successful, but that are transformative. I did a story last year on a retailer called Lenehan's in Capel Street in Dublin, been there over a hundred years.
And Mark Lenehan, the fifth generation of the family who owns that, uh, hardware store. They built themselves a chatbot for their website. So when you go onto lenehans.ie, it's a normal hardware store, but it will interact with you and it will, you can interrogate it on a lot of things and it will act a little bit like chat GPT on it. So it will take all of the the inventory that Lenehans has.
And it will talk to you about that stuff. You say, well, can I use this to hang up a picture on a wall? And will it work on plasterboard? And it will actually go into that kind of detail and have a conversation with you about it. And before we... I knew we were going to be talking about this today. I got in touch with him and asked him, well, how has it been a year later?
Because he had just built it last year. And he says they're flying. He says it's been... You know, fantastic. They've had thousands of conversations to the point where he's actually sold it on to other retailers, the system. So, you know, it is important to say that AI systems are working for some companies and some investments.
The one thing I was struck by, though, was that William Fry technology report. And they had a big conference and I went to it and I was talking to their senior executives there.
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