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Travon Extension, Draft Day 2 & 3 Expectations | Huddle Up

08 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.841 - 19.508 John Oehser

Welcome to Huddle Up. Jaguar senior writer John Osher, NFL network analyst and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter J.P. Shatterick bring you the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars. Huddle Up starts right now.

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20.382 - 24.148 J.P. Shadrick

Welcome to another edition of Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks, J.P.

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Chapter 2: What is the significance of Travon Walker's contract extension?

24.188 - 34.523 J.P. Shadrick

Shadrick, John Ogier from the Miller Electric Center. We're at the Hyundai Studios in Jacksonville. Bucky Brooks is in Los Angeles traffic per usual. Hi, Bucky.

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35.785 - 36.907 Bucky Brooks

What's going on, guys? What's happening?

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37.848 - 47.503 J.P. Shadrick

Oh, you know, just re-signing defensive lineman this week, or a lineman, Trayvon Walker. And then I'll see some programs a couple weeks away. That's what's happening.

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48.698 - 56.488 Bucky Brooks

I like both of those things. I like the fact that Trayvon Walker is locked up, and I like the fact that the guys are scheduled to get back to work in a couple weeks.

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57.97 - 73.39 J.P. Shadrick

Trayvon Walker, the extension, four years, $110 million, $77 million of that guaranteed. Let's hear from Trayvon Walker right after the signing. It was a new staff member last year, and they believed in him.

73.522 - 90.64 Trayvon Walker

It really means a lot, because like you say, getting a new staff in, it's always that uncertainty. When they first got here, I feel like they did a great job of just communicating with me things, and that kind of already put in perspective to how that relationship was going to go.

90.68 - 107.213 Trayvon Walker

Sometimes you never really know how it's going to go, but ever since they've been there, I feel like on my end and their end, we've been transparent with each other, and we just have a conversation to where we can all just be comfortable, and that was one of Liam's. many things that say what's on your mind and go from there.

107.233 - 119.762 J.P. Shadrick

He was coming off back-to-back double-digit sack seasons going into last year. Of course, John, we know all about the injuries that plagued him throughout the year, stayed on the field most of the time, but now he's cashing in for $27.5 million a year.

119.742 - 144.819 Unknown

Yeah, and look, I try to think of new ways to say what I like about Trayvon because for two or three years, talking about his strengths and what he brings, but to me, Bucky, you've been on the personnel side of it inside, and so you probably talk to more GMs on a personal level. of what motivates signings.

Chapter 3: How does Travon Walker's extension impact the Jaguars' locker room culture?

336.978 - 354.775 Unknown

Well, that doesn't play into sack numbers, but are they not as important there? So I think what he brings – I don't know that he'll ever be a 17-sack guy, but I don't know that he needs to be a 17-sack guy to be the most important player in this defense, which I think he is.

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355.075 - 372.853 Bucky Brooks

Yeah, I think what was interesting in reading some of the things and the quotes and Liam and Trayvon talking about how Liam kind of put that Aaron Donald thing in terms of being disruptive, not in terms of the comparison as a player or the position, but in terms of what it feels like to have to go against somebody like that every day in practice.

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372.833 - 391.011 Bucky Brooks

to be consistently disruptive to the point that you have to throw them out of practice so your offense can go work. And the only way that it happens is you have to exhibit those habits in practice. Can you dominate your one-on-one period? Can you dominate the team period? Can you do it each and every day? And if you do it,

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391.126 - 401.997 Bucky Brooks

each and every day, then you have a chance to do it consistently in games. It's the urging and pushing of Trayvon to be that player and him taking that feedback and really taking his game to another level.

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402.297 - 407.582 J.P. Shadrick

Yeah, he's definitely the guy I want walking off the bus first to kind of set the tone for the day.

408.123 - 412.347 Unknown

Bucky, in your levels of football, were you ever tossed out of practice?

413.728 - 440.666 Bucky Brooks

Because you're so dominant. I mean, not for those reasons. Maybe for disciplinary reasons, spiking a ball or doing things like that. But, no, I can't even imagine being held out. But that kind of speaks to what the expectations are for this team and for Trayvon. And I'm going to say this. I think his ability to move inside at times – is going to be big as we can continue to grow the team.

441.207 - 456.79 Bucky Brooks

And his ability to team with Josh Allen, they've been a nice combo, regardless of whether you say one is Batman, the other is Robin. I do know when those two guys, 44 and 41, are on the field, man, the Jaguars defense has a chance to play at a high level when they're getting after it.

456.77 - 473.475 Unknown

Yeah, I also thought, JP, there was an element here of, you know, I don't know that this is why you sign him or a whatever number, but the Jaguars' identity, and I think people around the league are starting to catch on to it, is of a tough physical team that'll punch you in the mouth.

Chapter 4: What are the expectations for the Jaguars in the upcoming draft?

593.012 - 614.402 Unknown

This sort of sounds like a cliche, but I think when you're building something like this, it matters. Had you not done this, players know who the guys are. You didn't want to let Trayvon out of the building, certainly, because then you're looking for another one and you can't find one.

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614.669 - 640.761 Unknown

But I do think there is a, consciously, unconsciously, a message to the rest of the guys, hey, this is what we're about. We believe in this. You sure didn't want it. If you don't re-sign them, there's players in the locker room looking around going, well, what do they want? I mean, if they don't want that. So how much of a factor is that as a GM, Bucky?

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641.635 - 658.217 Bucky Brooks

I think it's a major factor. And the reason why it's a major factor, John, is because if we talk about, hey, these are the kind of guys that we want on the team, well, you want to reward those guys on the front end, not on the back end. You don't want to make him play his contract out to the turn before you finally decide to give him an extension.

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658.638 - 682.02 Bucky Brooks

If he says and shows you that, hey, man, he's one of our guys. He preps hard. He practices hard. He plays hard. He plays where he performs at a high level. We want to meet him early. We want to be proactive in those negotiations as opposed to reactive or whatever. And also from a fiscal responsibility and economical standpoint, it is always better when you pay the guy early than late.

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682.08 - 684.906 Bucky Brooks

The price never goes down. It only goes up.

685.392 - 712.466 J.P. Shadrick

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713.687 - 734.653 J.P. Shadrick

Coming up this week, Thursday, it's the pre-draft luncheon. A couple of weeks out from the draft. We'll hear from GM James Gladstone about days two and three because day one is not on the docket at the moment. The Jaguars' first pick is number 56 overall, and I expect we'll eat well, but I don't know what we're going to really hear, John.

734.785 - 750.831 Unknown

Well, yeah, I mean, it's every year, really, it's the same story, and there's not much of a story usually coming out of these. It's do you think you'll trade up or down? What are the strengths of the draft?

751.853 - 751.933

Hmm.

Chapter 5: Which top prospects are the Jaguars targeting in the second round?

944.503 - 955.694 Unknown

And it's so hard to say what worth is, but is outside backer a position that's worth doing that or it's player dependent, obviously?

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956.855 - 972.587 Bucky Brooks

No, man, I think it's player dependent. And I know, like, we get into weeds in terms of positional value. and those things. But, man, if you're a team that needs an outside linebacker, and I'm assuming you're talking about an outside stand-up edge linebacker, or are you talking about replacing Devin Lloyd type?

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972.607 - 976.86 Unknown

I'm assuming replacing Devin Lloyd, which is there this year.

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977.65 - 1003.208 Bucky Brooks

Yeah, no, I mean, because it's different. The only reason I say it's a bit different because, like, the type of player that you're chasing, right? So we're talking 56, second round. We're talking about maybe anywhere from Anthony Hill from Texas, who is a real linebacker who has some pass rush ability. We're talking about Jacob Rodriguez from Texas Tech, who is a splash play machine.

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1003.269 - 1022.559 Bucky Brooks

He is always around the ball. He's a little undersized, but... In terms of being a C-ball, kid-ball defender with great instincts, there's not a better one. And because he tested so well at the combine, he's definitely in play in the second round. If you're talking about someone that can come off the edge and maybe like, hey, we put him in on nickel situations, Trayvon kicks down.

1022.939 - 1041.958 Bucky Brooks

You're talking about Gabe Atkins from Illinois, maybe a Zion Young from Missouri, maybe even from UCF, Malachi Lawrence. So there's some players that are in play. is just trying to get a good feel for who they like and what they believe that range will be and being able to see if you can find some willing trade partners.

1041.978 - 1065.739 Unknown

Is this even a year... You know, with four in the top hundred, do you even want to move up? Or is the third round fertile enough where you're better off just getting four players, meaning a second rounder and three third rounders? It feels like a draft where... there's more good players there than there are great players up top, if you know what I'm getting at.

1065.759 - 1086.641 Bucky Brooks

Yeah, up top. But if you know what you're doing, in terms of like you know who you're targeting, you simply have to make the decision. Would I rather have more lottery tickets or would I rather have the lottery ticket from the store that I want? Meaning, look, I can move up and get the player that I want or would I rather have a collection of players that we feel good?

1086.661 - 1106.111 Bucky Brooks

Like, look, the odds will tell you that There's really no major difference between second- and third-round players. You kind of have to get lucky with fit and scheme. Given how they operate, I would think that they may be a little more likely to kind of sit and pick unless one of their blue-chip guys kind of falls through the crack for whatever reason.

Chapter 6: How do NFL teams strategize without a first-round draft pick?

1180.147 - 1193.788 Bucky Brooks

But you have to draft enough young guys to kind of populate the bottom of the roster. And to me, I know that's a big deal for them. They want young guys to do it because as we're beginning to see the money changes with Trevor, you start having to pay people.

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1193.768 - 1201.77 Bucky Brooks

You have to have some young, cheap talent and prominent positions, and the draft is the best way to get that young, cheap talent on your team.

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1202.29 - 1206.957 J.P. Shadrick

All right, draft luncheon coming up Thursday. We'll hear from the GM. Is Liam in there, too? I forget who's in there.

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1207.017 - 1208.178 Unknown

I'm not sure.

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1208.319 - 1228.467 J.P. Shadrick

I know for sure, James Gladstone. We'll have coverage of it on Jaguars.com, Jaguars YouTube for the recaps and everything that goes with that. We've got Jaguars happy hour tomorrow afternoon. Jeff Lagerman will be in. And here we go. Finally winding into draft talk. It's coming. And off-season program starts April 20th. Buck, what do you got coming up the next week?

1228.767 - 1242.099 Bucky Brooks

Well, I'm trying to get my season tickets to Carolina basketball now that Mike Malone has come on board. Really excited about my Tar Heels. We're all the way back. The baseball team is playing great. I'm just really excited now. I'm back to do some alum stuff and take care of that.

1242.119 - 1260.377 Bucky Brooks

But then when it comes to the draft, look, I'm just trying to get through the next few weeks to kind of see where everyone goes on draft weekend. And then I get to do my favorite part of the draft, and that is to place grades. There's nothing I love more than to let the teacher in me come out and mark up some papers and give grades. I love it, J.P.,

1260.357 - 1265.715 J.P. Shadrick

Yeah, we love reading that, too, because not everybody's always happy about those.

1266.558 - 1267.461 Bucky Brooks

I love grades.

Chapter 7: What factors influence a team's decision to trade up or down in the draft?

1267.481 - 1271.534 Bucky Brooks

It allows me to scratch the itch. The wannabe teacher in me gets a chance to do that.

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1271.554 - 1288.896 Unknown

You may as well grade OTAs. Yeah, I mean, John, if I could tell you the science behind grades, when you take a stack of papers and just pull them down the steps, and each step again correlates with a grade, then that's my grading system. I like it. How about that? I like it very much. Wow.

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1289.717 - 1294.143 J.P. Shadrick

Bucky, well done. We'll talk to you again next week. Appreciate it. Bucky, thanks, buddy.

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1294.163 - 1294.984 Unknown

All right, man. We'll see you.

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1295.004 - 1301.232 J.P. Shadrick

Bucky Brooks, Chad Ogier, I'm J.P. Shatrick. Our thanks to Britt Reber, Joe Fortunato, and thanks for listening. It's Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.

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