How to Speak Up with Confidence ft. Tori Kelly
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How did Tori Kelly's early career shape her self-worth and identity?
Here I am at the table and I know I have something to say.
Yeah.
But I'm dealing with that mental block. Now they know better than me. I probably shouldn't say anything. I'm just going to be quiet.
Yeah.
How, Tori, how did you get over that?
Remove that lie that I've told myself a lot of my life, which is you don't have anything to offer the conversation. People just know you as a singer. So just sing your little songs. I think I grew up feeling like my opinion didn't matter. I think I've had to unlearn that you do have something to say, you can offer something to the conversation.
When it comes to self-worth, what have you learned now about your self-worth that you didn't know before?
I think I've definitely struggled with self-worth, I would say. I've been an artist for most most of my life and a singer most of my life and i think me as a person and me as an artist a lot of times it was hard to separate that especially growing up because you know if i'm singing for people and i'm getting applause and you know getting a reaction i'm like oh cool i'm i'm worth something to them and you were signed really early I was signed when I was 12.
Yeah.
Yeah. Technically 11, actually. Like 11, 12, I was in the industry.
Before you really know who you are as a person.
Yeah. Like at all.
Right. Literal child.
So, yeah, looking back, it's insane. But I did feel really protected. I mean, I had my parents right there with me. So, you know, I was, I felt safe. Yeah, I feel like I didn't have any crazy experiences as a kid in the industry. I just always felt like I was kind of one foot in, one foot out. Like I'd get signed, didn't work out, you know, go back to the drawing board, go in my room, be sad, write some songs, which was, I mean, that's how I discovered songwriting. It's like, oh, I have stuff to say now. Yeah, an outlet. So, but yeah, I think when it comes to self-worth, It was, yeah, it was hard for me to separate the approval and applause and like the praise from, that I would get from people from this gift that I have.
You know, I would, that was my self-worth. And then I think as I got older... and started to have more doors closed, like things just wouldn't work out. Labels just didn't really know what to do with me. That really sucked because then I'm like, oh, now I don't have self-worth or what am, you know, who even am I if I don't have this praise from other people or if I'm not singing, you know, who am I? So I definitely struggled with that. I think that's where my faith really came into play because, you know, I grew up going to church, grew up learning about Jesus, And I think it was somewhere around high school where I would say before high school, I still had a very real, pure relationship with God, but then it became way more personal around high school.
And i think that's where that that's really the only other place i knew to turn to get any sort of worth you know and and reading like oh i'm even if i don't have music and all the stuff goes away i'm still a child of god i'm still like this is where i get my identity from so i think that was that started to shape really like the foundation of who I was. And, um, I've always just kept coming back to that. So when something, you know, doesn't go the way that I want, or it's, it's just so freeing to be like, okay, I don't actually have to rely on other people, you know, to get any sort of worth. Cause I already know where that comes from. And then anything on top of that is just bonus.
But honestly, yeah.
Yeah, it's like, okay, cool. I'm glad you like my art, but that's, I'm not gonna- Tie myself. Exactly. I'm not gonna like rely on that to, you know, make myself feel better. Or nowadays it's, you know, social media too. It's like, I'm not gonna, I don't need these comments and whether bad or good, I'm not gonna let that affect, you know, who I am at my core. It's definitely hard still. Sure. I wrestle with it for sure. But I think having that as my, has been like an absolute game changer.
I want us to imagine that there's a 11 or 12 year old girl who's listening.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
How did Tori Kelly's early career shape her self-worth and identity?
0:00–11:04
2
When and why did faith become a foundation for Tori's sense of worth?
11:04–18:34
3
What practical steps does Tori recommend for an 11–12 year old struggling with identity?
18:34–28:54
4
How does Tori manage stage confidence versus everyday shyness?
28:54–33:30
5
What are vocal warmups and cool-downs and why do they matter for performers?
33:30–1:00:58
6
How can shy or reserved people use writing and questions to speak up more?
1:00:58–1:05:55
Speakers
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