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The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 901 | "Loser Sibling"

07 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart, or our own.

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27.326 - 55.066 Ice

Enjoy the show. I absolutely love the topic of boosting, but I already know how it's going to go. I know exactly how it's going to go, and no one is going to get killed but me. Because you're going to sound bougie, and above it, what are they going to call you? I mean, these niggas just be calling anything bougie. Like, we do need to clearly establish what is bougie and what's not.

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But not for today. It's a moving target. Bougie is a moving target. It is. It is.

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61.404 - 64.006 Unknown

I got so much to say about the bougie target.

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64.027 - 73.377 Ice

Yeah, but the people we talking about are never bougie. Like Mona ain't bougie. No. No. Nobody's mistaking her for bougie.

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I am bougie.

74.639 - 78.983 Ice

When? Bougiello. Bougie.

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That's how you really say bougie.

80.725 - 81.506 Ice

It's French.

Chapter 2: What are the implications of being called bougie?

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Ain't nothing bougie about Mona. I'm bougiello. Ice we know is not bougie. Nope. At all.

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87.393 - 88.615 Joe Budden

Ice bougie too.

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88.795 - 101.551 Ice

And Ish be confused. He is whoever he around. So if he around some bougie motherfuckers, he going to act bougie. And if he around niggas that buy vacuums from boosters, then yes.

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101.571 - 102.973 Joe Budden

Yeah.

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103.333 - 116.009 Ice

And even if you in support of buying shit from boosters, some shit should be off of the booster list, i.e. a vacuum. How? How, y'all? I agree. That's where the bougie part come in.

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Facts. Facts. What are you talking about?

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A vacuum is off the booster list. A vacuum should be off the booster list when you're between 40 and 50 years old. Why is that?

130.165 - 130.886 Joe Budden

Explain to me why.

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Because I get boosted and shit from the barbershop, right? I'm not walking down the street with a fucking vacuum cleaner back home. You know what I'm saying? You don't got to get boosted and shit from the barbershop. You drove to the barbershop, didn't you?

Chapter 3: How does J. Cole's album reflect personal experiences?

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Mark, I don't believe everybody masturbates to their girl. Everyone in here does. For sure. Because we're in love. Well, this room, I'm sure.

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557.599 - 575.177 Unknown

None of y'all masturbate to y'all girl. That's stupid. You could just fuck the bitch. Like, what are we talking about? You masturbate to the bitch you can't touch. Like, what are we talking about? We always just fucking. Yeah. I hate playing these games with the guys. It's so annoying.

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575.198 - 585.934 Ice

Sometimes option B is like Alex Hinole climbing the skyscrapers. Sometimes option two is like, what did we do today?

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586.808 - 587.769 Unknown

Yo, you so judgy, y'all.

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587.85 - 604.435 Ice

What did we do today? And what type of performance are you expecting out of me? And you know what it's like. Number two, more importantly. And you know what type of time I'm wanting in the morning. So don't you want to let me rest? Then what do we eat? You want to let me rest. What do we eat is a good one. That's a very important one. Yeah, what did we eat? Did I nap?

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Like if it's pot roast, y'all done. If it's salad, you can go.

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Bad rice and beans, you farting. That's no good.

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Oh, God. That's that couple shit for real.

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You know what's funny? Not to rehash old stuff. But I was watching the clip of you brothers talking about fighting Deontay Wilder and Jon Jones and all that. And, you know, my brain is weird. So one of the thoughts I had was you could tell which niggas ain't just never fucked like a tall bitch. I know that that's weird getting there.

Chapter 4: What are the sibling dynamics discussed in relation to Glorilla?

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The old bitches is back. They hitting your line. Where you at? What you doing? You hype about it. At 39, he's already out of love with everything. Yeah, though, none of this shit impress me no more. And it sounds like that to me. I don't feel none of this shit no more.

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4441.66 - 4443.022 Parks

But it sounds like that to me.

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4443.042 - 4457.11 Ice

That's why you don't need 24 songs. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It shouldn't feel like that to me. And to your point, when you first started, you know I was trying to be quiet. But now you woke me up a little bit. My nigga, everybody's been waiting on this album for two years.

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So if you set the bar up there with your track list and all that other shit, I don't really want to hear about your life story. I don't. Put that shit on the mixtape for your local niggas to know the nigga locally that you talking about. The world don't necessarily want to know about Lil Rah-Rah that's coming for you locally. Not me.

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And then for him to get to the end of this song and say, oh shit, she was like that from Jump. then you, one of the best emcees in the world, didn't need this to convey it for me.

Chapter 5: How does the conversation shift to J. Cole's album and its impact?

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That's for me.

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4485.739 - 4500.08 Unknown

And I disagree with earlier. Well, I don't know you say disagree because I don't know exactly if that's what you said. Somebody mentioned something about it has nothing to do with their battle. But I feel like when he stepped back from that battle, I think people did expect to get something when this came out.

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4500.12 - 4501.102 Ice

You know what I mean? Anticipation.

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Right, because if you want to say, look, that's not good for me. Because I respected that to know that that's not good for you mentally. I'm totally waiting for you to do something once you put yourself out. See, I think that he did. This is a much more difficult album to make to me than trying to just make some slaps. This is an undertaking to tell a story for fucking an hour and 41 minutes.

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I understand why you might not like it, but I understand as an artist and someone who's in these studios and someone who tries to push some boundaries, that is much more difficult than just getting some dope beats and flaming it and getting Future on the record. All right.

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I'm not mad at. I can respect the attempt and still not. For sure. That's me. Also, I thought this part of disc two had some of the beats that weren't as lit as the jazzy disc one beats. Like this is very, this gives lo-fi to me.

Chapter 6: What are the implications of being the 'loser sibling'?

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I can't even hear that. Yeah, I was hoping you'd turn that off. I can't listen to that.

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4583.663 - 4612.054 Ice

I don't want to hear that shit. I feel like by now he said everything that he wanted to say and needed to say and we could have closed this album and been off to the races. But some of this is extra. This is extra. What if? I just feel like he's too good of a rapper to do that right there. I don't need that from you. Fair. Not from you. The bar is high for J. Cole, my nigga.

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4612.074 - 4615.258 Ice

If you were going to take that concept, you had to deliver better than that.

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4615.278 - 4626.08 Unknown

And again, to my earlier point, Mortal Man exists. Like... Kendrick kind of touched on the Tupac thing and kind of did it better. Much better way though.

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4626.501 - 4634.172 Ice

Yeah. Wow. This is quick stop. This is three in a row where I like, I like, I like, I love this. Yeah.

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I love this one.

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This is cold, cold that I know. I said, yes. Yeah. You don't fuck with that one? I'm with you. Again, yo, the raps are the raps. It feels like, to me, he found a beat with some music that he loved so much, because I love that music. This didn't call for nothing. He's not saying nothing on here.

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I didn't need the M Renegade flow for whatever you... There's nothing he's saying on here that we need this on a double project. Listen, I like it. I like it. But if you're making a double album, whoever is on the vote team, if there even is a vote team at some point, he might have records he left off. I'm sure. Maybe it's a deluxe coming. Of course.

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But this, for me, didn't feel like it was that important for the story or dope enough to be in... Yeah. But I love the music. Because I love the saxophone and the strings. But this flow is bothering me. He done killed the flow the whole album. And now I got. Oh, yeah.

Chapter 7: What is the significance of LaRussell signing with Roc Nation?

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That's not in my heart. And I don't really speak like this because I believe in the power of words and karmic retribution. But sometimes some of these niggas deserve it, man. So that's going to be the end of that. And if it's not, then we'll get into that other tea out there about you being an old Niners fan.

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Chapter 8: How do the hosts feel about Savannah Guthrie's missing mother?

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You like Steve Young, boy. That's right. That's right. Old Niners fan. I ain't talking football. What you think, that team don't come our way about to pay for play with the young boys out there? You know Steve Young. Y'all know Steve Young, one of the greatest Niners quarterbacks of all time, right? I don't watch football. Ah, got it, got it. Me either.

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He was the quarterback right after Joe Montana, man. So, you know what I mean? All is well out there, but... Peace and love. Peace and love. You can't end that with peace and love.

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Peace and love to everybody.

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8320.376 - 8332.037 Ice

It is peace and love. Because I be chilling, man. But niggas, I think niggas think because, I mean, I be chilling that shit. And you inspired me with the Brian McKnight shit. So sometimes I got to come in here and let niggas know I'm standing on business.

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8332.097 - 8333.059 Joe Budden

Don't put this around with no part of this.

8333.079 - 8338.849 Ice

I heard that shit you said. We not going back and forth. It's not going to be exchanged. But here's what I think about a few things. That's all.

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Well, all right. Here at the Joe Budden Podcast, we like to keep it positive. We like to keep it full of love and light.

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All about high vibrations, high frequencies, love and light, building and linking. Come on, man. Stop playing. Stop playing. You built a Lincoln.

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Shut up, bitch.

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