Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
The Joe Rogan Experience. Showing by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. Let's go, Dan Soder. Yeah. Let's go, baby. What's happening? I forgot how good a weed you have. This is Cal Williams weed. Is it really? Yeah. Oh, shit. I'm going to start talking shit on everyone in the business. And that ain't never been a day that Shane Gillis ain't never texted me, you're gay.
Always calling me gay. Oh, we had Cat Williams ride the racing simulator, and I filmed it and put some of it up on Instagram. He's like, this is how he drives. This is a normal thing. He does this because he does this in real life. Yeah, I would love for Cat Williams to be the voice of my self-hate. He's like, you ain't never going to be nothing, baby. You suck. It's like, I know, Cat.
Just to wake you up every day and get you to go to work. Yeah, he's the new David Goggins. He's like, pain is good, feel everything bad, pimping. I'm out here golfing in $5,000 sneakers. Dude, the books thing is still the funniest shit in the world. Bro, he doubled down and then some.
respect on doubling down on a crazy shit is fucking hilarious he was saying I went to the library and I got 20 books at a time because that's all they would let you get and I would be there three times a week what if oftentimes I'd be reading eight books simultaneously because I have the original book and then I have books and annotated and I love it
The idea that a librarian sees him coming and gets nervous. No, no, no, no, no, no. Lock the doors.
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Chapter 2: How does Cat Williams influence the conversation?
Here he comes. Only 20. Only 20. Only 20 books at a time. I need to read 30 books today. What was he saying? A week? How many? I don't give a fuck what he said. He's a gem. That guy's a gem. I love him. I was so happy that I got him to come on the podcast because he was like, Joe Rogan don't want me on this podcast. I'm like, I do though. I fucking love that guy. I've always sung his praises.
When you heard him say that, did you talk back to the interviewer? You're like, but I do want you on. No, no. I immediately went on Twitter. Yeah. I immediately went on Twitter and I said, dude, I love that guy. Yeah. Let's go. I just have never met him. I never met him until yesterday. I've never met him. So it's just like we passed each other in the night at the store.
I just never was there when he was there. And he was already a big, you know, giant theater act by then. Yeah. And now he's an arena act. You know, like he's just ā I just never met him. That's all it was. Like it's hard to meet arena acts. Like unless it's Chappelle who still goes to the clubs. Yeah. Like I asked him to do the club. I go, you want to do a spot at the club?
Somebody goes, I'm an arena act.
Yeah.
Just to clarify with someone like that. I do arenas too. It's okay. The club is amazing. Can't. Yeah. Not enough people. No, I think he genuinely doesn't enjoy being in tight crowds like that. I think he's uncomfortable. And I just, I told him, I go, you got too famous. And he was like, he got too famous. I mean, he's been doing arenas for over 10 years now, probably. At least, yeah.
And then theaters the whole time. Well, Pimp Chronicles was when? When was Pimp Chronicles? I'm going to guess. I mean, I know Jamie's going to look it up. I'm going to guess 2002. Oh three somewhere around then I watched that in the gym yesterday before I came to do the greatest stand-up specials of all time it's fucking amazing the the the amount of It's great.
It's like up there with like the energy of Chris Rock bring the pain mm-hmm where there's like it's like yell laughter his own Flavius the best dude It's his own flavor of comedy. His flavor of comedy is uniquely Cat Williams. The way he can repeat things and they become funnier. Who fucking repeats a line and it becomes funnier? He does. The bit gets better. Forgo, come on, son.
I was saying even his 2019 special was so funny that I sat through 16 minutes of Jacksonville jokes acting like I knew that about Jacksonville. I'm like, oh, those bridges. I forget who Chris Rock was watching it with, but they were going crazy just because he was just talking about Florida. 16 minutes. A local. And by the way. By the way, you're laughing with him. The whole time. Yeah.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of AI in today's society?
Sure, they're being good moms. And what male dolphins would do if they have not had sex with the female dolphin, I hope I'm not fucking any of this up, they'll kill the babies. To fuck the mom? To force the mom into breeding again. Damn. Force her back into estrus. That's some trailer trash shit.
The strategy that the female dolphins have employed is to have sex with as many male dolphins around her as she can so that no one knows who's the baby. Yeah, so everyone's like, that might be my kid. Exactly.
Yeah.
Genius. Reports of infanticide incestations have been quadrupled in the past decade. And now infanticide has now been documented in six species of toothed whale, including multiple populations of common bottlenose dolphins. Yeah. So if you're a grown dolphin, you've made it through a lot. You made it through a lot.
You made it through a lot of dolphins wanting to fuck your mom while you were a kid. If you can't make a house, the world is rough. Do you know how different I would have been? I was raised by a single mom who dated. If all those guys had to kill me to fuck my mom, do you know how dangerous I would be right now? I'd be dead. Yeah, I'd be absolutely dead. You'd be dead. You were a kid.
Also, I was a little sweetie pie. I wasn't a Kevin McAllister. I'm not setting home alone traps. I would have gotten rolled. Dennis, I'll tell you the guy's name. That's hilarious. He was the first guy my mom dated after my dad. Dennis would have killed me. Yeah, probably. Yeah, because he would have been like, you're not going to fuck when this kid's around? And she's like, he's not.
Just coming up behind me with piano wire. I think for dolphins, it's like six years, too. That times out exactly how old I was. I was maybe five when my mom started dating. That's so funny to think about them. I have to be like, my mom's like, I'm going on a date. Just the whole day. I'm just like, where the fuck is he? Come get me, you son of a bitch.
How weird is it we put those things in swimming pools? And pet them. Ride them and shit. Yeah, just tricks. Do a trick. So weird. I went to the Atlanta Aquarium. They have a great aquarium, and I was doing shows there, and I went to the dolphin exhibit, and I thought it was funny because these dolphin trainers are also scientists. Yeah. But then they have to dance. It's like the weirdest thing.
They're like, they know all this stuff about dolphins, but then they're like, hey, do a little routine and feed them a fish. And you're like, how disrespected are you as a scientist that they're like, and fucking twirl around a little bit. And making these incredibly intelligent. Wild, wild beasts of the sea do these dance. I'm surprised they don't snap all the time. Yeah.
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Chapter 4: What are the risks and rewards of gambling discussed in the podcast?
If you get fucked, you're fucked. Sure, if you win, it's amazing. But then all you do is you just want to go do it again. People don't walk away. It's like dealing drugs. People never walk away from that shit. They never win. The house always wins. They're going to take your money.
Always always they're not they have the smartest Pete did I had a buddy when I first moved out east I lived with my buddy Morgan in New Jersey And he loved he loved the taste and this was like when you had to go to a bookie and shit So he was like doing some real gambling He would get so fucking into it, but then he was right He would yell this thing all the time when he would bet on the points and the points would hit to fuck him He'd be like they're from the future
They're from the fucking future. He would like scream it if he lost like a thousand dollar bet on the Knicks. And you're like, yeah, they have the smartest guys working for them. Like they know how to set the line. Like all those guys are fucking crazy smart.
Chapter 5: How does Dan Soder's experience at the Super Bowl reflect his passion for the 49ers?
They're crazy smart and they use analytics. Exactly. You're going against Wall Street. You're going against guys that probably could be making millions on Wall Street. Yeah. And you're just like, yeah, I think the Chiefs are going to win. Dude, the worst was gambling has got ā it was in Vegas. So, you know, obviously there's more gambling. But the Super Bowl ā
If your team's in the Super Bowl, you fucking care. But I've been to two Super Bowls, and what I've learned is there's a lot of people there that don't give a shit. They just want to go to a Super Bowl. They're just at a Super Bowl. They don't care who the teams are. As someone who does care who the team is, it's a different viewing experience.
Chapter 6: What insights does Dan share about the emotional impact of sports and fandom?
Right. So the fourth quarter of the Niners-Chiefs game, I'm a diehard Niners fan. I am like sweating. I'm like Che and I are like punching each other in weird ways. Like we're just like this the whole time. We're like holding hands. It was fucking nuts. These fucking guys in front of us were just these business CEOs from North Carolina.
And as they got drunk, they noticed Che, because he's on SNL, so they know a famous guy. So they kind of were doing that thing where they wanted to talk to us, but we were like, dude, it's a fucking Super Bowl. We're watching the Super Bowl. This is big for us. We're 49ers fans. Can we watch this? And by the fourth quarter, the guy goes...
Yeah, I've got a parlay if Brandon Ayuk can get two more catches. And I just put my hand in front of his face and I went, no, I don't want to talk to you, right? He was turned around talking to me. And you're like, stop. Because he thinks I care about his bets. You're like, dude, I love this team. We are almost at the mountaintop. Shut the fuck up. Right. About.
It's like having a party over your house. And it's just the wrong person shows up and just camps out in front of you and starts talking to you. And you're like, do you not understand? And I give too much of a shit about the 49ers because it was the only thing my dad and I shared. So I give like that extra. Extra. Like, this is connected. Like Boston with the Red Sox. It's like, yeah, it is.
National identity. It's a disease more than it is an enjoyment. It's like a thing, like, I see that logo and I'm like, what the fuck?
just fucking care so much and that's hilarious they played last season they played the eagles in the nfc championship game and all my friends are from philly like a lot of my comedy friends are eagles fans big j vecchione fucking shane tommy like there's so many guys i know that love the eagles but specifically big j and big j is like dude i'm having a party Come over and watch it.
And I was like, no, I care way too much. I care way too much. And it was just him, Eagles fans, and then friends that didn't give a shit. And that's what I said. I was like, I know there's going to be one person that talks to me that I'm like, please don't talk to me right now. But also I'm the enemy over there. So then I watched it at home. Worst decision I've ever had in my life.
Because I watched it alone and I just went like crazy like an orca whale. I was just like screaming at a TV by myself. I do that if I watch fights. Yeah? Yeah, if I watch a good UFC at home, I'm screaming. Yeah. Especially if I shut the door. Oh, my God. It's pure enjoyment. It's the sports viewing equivalent of walking around your hotel naked. You're like, no one can come in here.
This is my room, and I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want right now. It's unbelievable. And if you're live and you're screaming, it just seems normal. But you want one other person there. You want a person. All I had was my dog and she didn't understand. Why you were yelling? Why I was so fucking hyped up. And when Brock Purdy's elbow got injured, she just saw me spiral in a way.
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Chapter 7: What insights do they share about leadership and power dynamics?
That's a response that I do not have. You don't get that drive if you're the son of the king. That's exactly, yeah. If you're like given everything, you don't have that in you. No. Where you're like, everyone left me. He was like, I changed rules. I run it again. That was my favorite thing is he goes, I am no longer president, prime minister. Guess what?
Prime minister has more power than president. And then after a while he goes, I'm just president again. The guy is just changing shit in a way that everyone around him is going like, badasses, Russian badasses around him are going like, hey, that's a good one. I like that one. They just have to be agreeable.
Chapter 8: How do they compare the leadership styles of Putin and Kim Jong Un?
His yes men? Yeah. It's got to be a terrifying thing. Well, he's got it locked in. As long as you play by the rules, seems like he lets you live. Who do you think... Kiss, that's exactly it. There he goes. That's how it goes. I might live. Who do you think...
Has the more ass kissers around them Putin or Kim Jong Un Kim Jong Un yeah that's like crazy I bet Putin Putin's intelligent I bet Putin requires people to have differing perspectives challenge so he can take into consideration and I bet he's very strategic about what they do and why they do it.
I think Kim Jong-un, like, that's... Well, he's a rich... You want to talk about a prince's, a king's son. Exactly, exactly. Like, there's the comparison. But the difference is, like, the people of Russia are doing way better than the people of North Korea.
Well, people from North Korea, they, like, find out about stuff on the outside, like, when they get out, and they're like, what the fuck, dude? Like, I'd be so mad. If you're North Korean and you get out and you go, like... What the fuck? That's a whole country like an orca tank. Yeah, yeah. They're just like, no, you don't even get info from the outside. You get nothing.
And when deer leader dies, you have to cry for like months. Can you imagine? They'll put people in jail that didn't cry hard enough. If I got arrested, my grandmother passed and I loved her. If they were doing that and I didn't get arrested, I'd be like, dude, I was dealing with shit. I deal with it my own way. I go inward. I think about it. I cry when I'm alone. You need to fuck alone.
I had to watch Iron Claw, that wrestling movie last night in my hotel room. They jar something loose. So look, this is people that have to publicly cry. All right, listen. Can we also admit, though, when Kim Jong-il died, right? And they did this. It is hilarious that you're that powerful, that you're like, cry harder, motherfucker. That everybody has to cry. Yeah.
This is where communism leads, kids. All you fucking idiots out there that think no one's ever done it right. There's only one way to do it. You have to ask. Someone has to enforce the rules, and that person is always the military, and they have power over everything. Jamie's pointing this guy out. You think he's gone? This guy in the middle goes like, oh, fuck, I didn't know a camera was there.
I didn't know a fucking camera was there. I just... That guy's probably tortured right now. Yeah. He's still being whipped. Yeah. Kim Jong-un. I mean, didn't he have his uncle killed? Yeah. Kim Jong-un was just like when ill died. Yeah. Some people are trying to move in on the territory. It's like, uh-uh. I'm the prince, bitch.
But also, so the difference between a self-made man and a prince is that prince has that like Let them die. Like they have that energy where they go, my uncle has ran upon me. Like Vladimir Putin would be like, I am very disappointed that you would not think that I would take care of you. He'd be like, right. You know, he's like, you are dead. You are dead to me. You like that Prince energy?
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