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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2414 - Brian Simpson

19 Nov 2025

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

0.031 - 33.042 Joe Rogan

the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day Did you watch it? Did you watch the UFC? No. Oh, my God. Islam Makachuk. Fuck. Dude goes up one weight class, goes up to 170. He was the 55-pound most dominant champion ever, most title defense of the 55 ever, just dominates at 170. Like, every round. People are saying it's boring, but listen, man.

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33.022 - 54.27 Joe Rogan

It's boring if you're a casual. The fact that he was able to do it every round, it was a little frustrating because you wanted Jack to try to adjust, but he couldn't, man. Islam shut his game down right away. He low kicked the shit out of his front leg real quick, had him limping real quick. Within the first round, he had hit it three or four times bad.

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54.25 - 60.696 Brian Simpson

I mean, I imagine being Khabib, you know, just your protege is coming in. Khabib's even better than him.

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Chapter 2: How does Islam Makhachev dominate in the UFC?

61.097 - 85.19 Joe Rogan

Right. That's what's so crazy. That's how good those guys are. Khabib's not better stand-up, though. Islam has really good stand-up. Khabib's stand-up was a means to an end. His stand-up was to crack you so he could get a hold of you and fuck you up, just drag you to the ground and smash you. That was Khabib's move. But Islam is fucking KOing people, man. It's different. He's different.

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85.21 - 91.377 Joe Rogan

He's head-kicking Volkanovski. It's like a different level of stand-up. Yeah, Khabib's saying, you're going to be better than me.

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91.477 - 93.301 Joe Rogan

Crazy, crazy.

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93.321 - 94.764 Brian Simpson

Them Dagestani boys are here to stay.

95.205 - 106.868 Joe Rogan

You know what's crazy, dude? Bilal Muhammad, who was the champ at welterweight, went down to Dagestan to train with those guys. And he was like, I thought I trained hard. I really did. I thought I trained hard until I trained with those guys.

106.988 - 120.689 Brian Simpson

That's all. I'm going to follow that advice. If I ever have a son, I'm just dropping him. As soon as he's hit puberty, I'm dropping him off in Dagestan. They leave him here, forget. That's the thing they always say. Take him to Dagestan, two, three years, forget. Yeah, for real. For real.

120.709 - 137.698 Joe Rogan

Then he comes back telling you what to do. How are you going to fuck with that? Because that's real. That's how those dudes are really rolling out there. That's how they're really living. They pray five times a day. They're super religious. There's no gambling. There's no drinking. There's no partying. This is just training. Just training.

137.718 - 153.942 Joe Rogan

Just training and training with a bunch of fucking animals. Eating together, training together, just getting after it every day. And then it's iron sharpens iron because everyone who comes out of there is a fucking killer. Yeah. Crazy.

Chapter 3: What training methods do Dagestani fighters use?

218.153 - 223.84 Brian Simpson

And you're my friend. And DC was like, oh yeah, I didn't look at it that way, but I had to check myself.

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224 - 242.241 Joe Rogan

Yeah, because if you're a journalist or if you're doing a podcast, you're going to have some people on that don't like people that are close to you. But that can only go to a certain level. If someone is your sworn enemy and this other guy is your training partner and your brother, you can't really have that guy on.

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242.221 - 252.993 Brian Simpson

Oh, yeah, of course not. Absolutely not. There's no scenario where Khabib is going to be friendly with Jon Jones because he knows the history. He might be respectful, but he ain't going to catch him kicking it.

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253.194 - 273.622 Joe Rogan

Yeah. Nah. Well, I think Jon and DC have pretty much buried the hatchet. Really? Yeah. I think they have. I think they communicated. I think they've had some interaction. You know, it's like... Look, when you have two bitter rivals like that and one guy comes out on top, it's just always going to be that way. Always, forever.

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274.343 - 280.313 Brian Simpson

Yeah, because they're different kind of people. I forget that sometimes. Like, the competitive, the people that are, like, ultra competitive.

280.333 - 296.804 Joe Rogan

Totally different kinds of human beings, man. It doesn't go away. Their drive is, like, you don't understand it. You don't live it, you know? Yeah. And, like... Wrestlers, like elite wrestlers, are the only people that train the way, like, Khabib and his crew train.

297.225 - 310.652 Joe Rogan

Like, in any other combat sport, like, if you're coming over from kickboxing and, you know, and then you want to fight MMA and, you know, you think, well, I've already trained like an animal already, like...

310.632 - 336.083 Joe Rogan

there's a difference there's a difference in the kind of exhaustion that you get from like hardcore wrestling training and that's something that these guys have that it's like that's why wrestling is the number one base for mma because anybody who gets really good at wrestling you got to be a fucking animal you got to be a fucking animal yeah i wrestled in high school the first couple years and it was like i'm like this ain't for me

336.063 - 351.287 Brian Simpson

It was hard. It's hardcore, man. It's so hard. Because besides the technique and stuff, you have to be able to suffer. You're training to suffer. And they break you all the way down, every single practice.

Chapter 4: How do personal experiences shape views on discipline and training?

405.361 - 411.187 Joe Rogan

They get crazy and they just can't stop eating. They develop real eating disorders. It's like, it's really common amongst guys who cut weight.

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411.207 - 434.65 Brian Simpson

Well, that's when I quit. I quit. I did, I did a tournament and, uh, and it was, it was the first tournament. My brother was coming to see me and, uh, And I miss weight by a pound or something like that. And so I still got to wrestle, but it was like in the loser's bracket or wrestle the people off on the side. And there was a guy that he had on what I know now is an insulin pump.

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434.731 - 454.461 Brian Simpson

But I didn't know at the time. Oh, you told me this. Yeah. And he just kept fucking me up. Because I was scared to hurt him. And he didn't give a fuck about me. And I got my ass whooped. And then when it was finally all over, I was like, huh. And I went to the vending machine. And I fucking opened the snicker bar. And my coach came over. He was like, what the fuck are you doing?

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454.913 - 475.877 Brian Simpson

You know, I was like, well, the tournament's over. He was like, you miss weight and you're going to come over here and eat snacks? And I was one of them kids where, like, I was just defiant. And I was like, fuck you. You know, and that was the last time he saw me. I was like, you know, because if that's what this is going to be, I can't do it. No snacks after losing.

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476.998 - 481.343 Brian Simpson

Yeah, especially missing weight. I mean, looking back, he had a point. How much did you miss it by? A pound.

481.824 - 481.984 Unknown

A pound.

483.196 - 494.767 Brian Simpson

Because, you know, it's like you can't. It's certain households where, like, you know, my mama didn't give a fuck about no mega weight. You're going to eat that food. You know, it wasn't like I didn't have control over my diet.

495.028 - 518.955 Joe Rogan

Right. Yeah. So then you just have to run it off. Yeah, run it off. You ever figure out how much calories you actually burn when you do a hard workout? It's not as much as you think. No. This dude, I forget what he ate, but he had some crazy meal with fucking pancakes, pizza, and all kinds of shit, like 10,000 calories or something like that.

518.975 - 545.464 Joe Rogan

And then he went running to burn off the calories, and he tracked it on an app. He ran for 10 hours. He ran like 30 miles. Yeah, the dude was in really good shape. But when he did this, he was tracking how many calories he had burned so far. And it took him like a marathon, like 30 hours of running. To burn off 1,000 calories? 30 miles, rather. 30 miles of running.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of political affiliations in public discourse?

4180.703 - 4181.745 Brian Simpson

Like this Epstein shit.

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4182.006 - 4189.357 Joe Rogan

Right. But just the amount, the sheer amount of people with insane amounts of money that are attached to this.

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4189.377 - 4202.075 Brian Simpson

Because my conservative friends be like, they think I give a fuck about a Democrat. They be like, oh, you, with a Bill Clinton's in there. I don't give a fuck who in there. I don't care who in there. You don't care. Put that shit in the street. Yeah.

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Chapter 6: How does the conversation shift to the topic of Epstein and political power?

4202.095 - 4221.756 Brian Simpson

They think you do. Yeah. I don't have, I don't have a. Party identity. I don't have a favorite politician. I don't have, there's no, there's nobody. I don't give these motherfuckers money. No, there's no politician that I love enough to do it. Because this is what's killing me. There's people out there that are literally like, well, how old is 16 really?

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4221.836 - 4231.827 Brian Simpson

You know, like they're trying to justify, because they want to come out of this by still showing support, but they don't want to be connected to the crime.

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Chapter 7: What are the controversies surrounding Prince Andrew's royal status?

4232.588 - 4247.959 Brian Simpson

So they're still trying to justify their support of all of this. That's crazy. It's like, there's no politician I love more than I love my country, or more than I have my principles of like, Yeah, I think if you can't draw the line at kid fucking, then you probably should stop talking in public. You shouldn't have public discourse, you know?

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4248.179 - 4267.603 Joe Rogan

Yeah. I mean, I think this is a pattern that has existed forever in politics. They want you to be compromised when you get into any sort of a position so they can control you. And I think these things like Epstein and there's probably a bunch of other similar operations that are being run.

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4267.583 - 4289.417 Joe Rogan

They provide you with, like, a really good time, or maybe you're a high-profile, extremely wealthy individual, and it's hard for you to get hosed. And some guy tells you, hey, we've got everything covered. You know, you come to my island. Nothing, you know, what it costs. Happens on the island, stays on the island. Bro, didn't they kick somebody out of the royal family? Oh, yeah. Who?

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4289.497 - 4290.058 Joe Rogan

Prince Andrew.

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4290.278 - 4290.499 Brian Simpson

Yeah.

4290.699 - 4297.048 Joe Rogan

Yeah, they kicked him out of the family, and there hasn't even been a former trial yet.

4297.089 - 4303.478 Brian Simpson

It's not like he's been convicted. But what happens when you're not? They just walk you out the castle and you're just on the street?

4303.718 - 4308.846 Joe Rogan

I think he's in a house way out in the country. You stay here.

4308.826 - 4319.325 Brian Simpson

In my head, I just picture him crying over some KFC because he's never eaten peasant food. I don't think he's eaten peasant food. So he's not a regular person.

Chapter 8: What insights are shared about the historical context of the Tulsa massacre?

4328.823 - 4335.389 Joe Rogan

I mean, what does he have and where did he get it? Is it just money from the government? Because they do get paid by the government.

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4335.429 - 4339.192 Brian Simpson

They do, but I also think they're still dukes of something and lords of something.

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4339.312 - 4386.897 Joe Rogan

Here it says what he lost. So after being stripped of his royal titles and forced to leave his longtime residence at Royal Lodge, Prince Andrew, now formally known as Andrew Montbotten Windsor, will relocate to accommodation in the Sandringham? How do you say that? So he's relocated to an estate. But that sounds sweet. Yeah.

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4387.538 - 4399.637 Joe Rogan

I mean, he's getting away with not having to be, you know, like not being in the public eye.

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4399.657 - 4400.038 Brian Simpson

That's it.

4400.018 - 4421.241 Joe Rogan

Well, they were basically like, you know all the parts about being a royal that suck? Yeah, you don't have to do those anymore. Look at this. Financial support. The king will provide for Andrew's basic needs, but his former royal funding and security benefits have been ended. Andrew has sought private business opportunities to support himself, but no public roles are expected. Wow.

4421.381 - 4442.918 Joe Rogan

Who going to go into business with you, my guy? He wants to go into business. He's going to open up a Starbucks? Getting money from the king all this time. This whole thing is nuts because they get money, and I don't think they have to do anything. I don't think they have real function in government, do they? Bruh. Where's the San Diego Estates? Oh, that's where he got. Poor guy. That's so sad.

4443.479 - 4457.068 Joe Rogan

That's so sad. They made him stay in that castle. Look how beautiful that place is. That is so nuts that this guy got kicked out of there. Bro. He got kicked out of wherever the fuck he was, the royal lull.

4457.088 - 4461.575 Brian Simpson

Unless they tell me his punishment is like they give you that estate, but they take all the servants.

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