Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day he's having a good old time i'm sure he loves doing that just wish it didn't piss me off it pisses you off that he just checks out what pisses you off I love it. I love that he does it. No, it's just art. It's fun to... But it's like the more successful he gets, the more dangerous it is. People know who you are, dude.
You've been seen by millions of people. You can't pretend you're this anonymous backpacker anymore. You fucking weirdo. He comes back. My favorite was a couple years ago. When he came back from Peru, we were doing Legion of Skanks, and he was in the crowd and thought it was going to be a big surprise that he's back. He, like, came back, and we were like, oh, what's up? I was here.
We were talking about the NBA. He was like, guys, you haven't seen me in so long. I was like, I don't see any of my friends. Yeah, you were saying, like, I see everybody every six months. I forgot you left. Right. I only see Norman every six months, maybe. Maybe a little more when we get popping with Protect Our Parks. Bro, it's not the same without them. I know it's not.
I'm still going to get drunk. It's a little sad, though. It's a little more pathetic. I'm drinking by myself. It's a little more sad. I've had a few drinks. I had a whiskey before a show recently. I had a couple glasses of wine with dinner the other day. But it's the most I've had is two. But the days of like drinking at night. I thought I had you last time we had some other show.
The problem is health. I'm too interested in health.
I know, that's the problem. It's like the price you pay is legitimate. Yeah. And I'm too interested in health. I do too much to stay healthy. You work too hard to. I'm getting old, dude. Right? I'm 58. The reality is, when was the last time you saw a really fit 78-year-old guy? 78 years for me is not that far. Trump's jacked. Bro, that's 2005, okay? 2005 when I was still doing Fear Factor.
That's 20 years ago. That's nothing. That's like that. Time just flies by. All of a sudden you're 78.
You're my age.
Yeah, exactly. Damn. Yeah, exactly. How old are you now? I just turned 38. Yeah, see? So think of that. Yeah. That's 20 years difference. You to me is 20 years. But me to like a dead guy is 20 years. 78-year-old guy is a dead guy. That's the difference. So I've been consciously thinking about that. Like don't let it get away from you. That's the thing. Don't let it get away from you.
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Chapter 2: How does Shane reflect on his drinking habits?
Yeah. Fucking insane. Incredible. Yeah. That dude just added decades onto his life. Oh, for sure. He was on his way out. He was close. He was on his way out. Yeah. 40, 500. Same talent? 40 pounds. Yeah. Same talent. Dropped it too. Did he? Yeah. How much did he drop? Fucking ton.
Oh, no shit. I haven't seen him.
Well, I don't want to speak for him. I think he took one of the things. Fine, man.
Whatever you need to do.
I was like, bro, what are you doing? And he was like, I was going to die. I was like, all right, fair. Yeah. You get too big, and then he probably has sleep apnea, so he ain't getting any sleep. So at night he's choking, and you're lying in bed in these weird hotel rooms. Yeah. I'm going out from sleep apnea for sure. Sure, bro. Bro, I have to wear a mouthpiece every night.
I wear a mouthpiece every night. I found a great pillow, too. Do you think it hurts to die from sleep apnea?
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Chapter 3: What insights does Shane share about aging and health?
No, you just choke. You stop breathing, and that's it. It's a wrap. Probably didn't hurt at all. You probably just go in your sleep. Yeah, so what the fuck? It's not one of the worst ways to go. What are we talking about here? Listen. Let it ride. It's just the problem is you're going way too young. You're going because someone's killing you, and that someone's you. Yeah, but...
See, a lot of football players get it. Yeah, I know.
Because Reggie White died from it.
They have giant necks. So the giant neck, when you're adding all this stuff here, it's kind of closing in. And then you've got this big fucking head and this big-ass tongue, and it just falls over that hole, and you just slip into darkness. Now you're talking my language. Well, listen, for a lot of those guys... it's all preventable. You know, you could sleep with a CPAP machine, which sucks.
Dude, my dad has a CPAP machine, and he doesn't fucking clean it. So he gets, like, eye infections. Oh, God. You just see him. He shows up with double pink eye. You're like, yo, what the fuck? Bro, I tried that thing once, one time. How do you sleep with that? Can't. Can't do it. I can't sleep with a lot of noise. I want to be able to wake up quick. I wake up quick. That's funny.
I'm one of those wake-up guys. Like, if my wife grabs me, like, if she has to wake me up, she has to, like, be kind of, you know, ready that I don't grab her. Yeah. I don't know why. I've always woken up like that. So I don't want... Any noise. I listen to noise when I sleep. And then I have that thought, though. It's like if somebody breaks in. I want to hear everything. Sure.
Well, this is like I used to always have a lot of dangerous dogs. I used to have, like, multiple pit bulls. I got a bear. Me and him both would sleep after. But I always wanted things to be awake that would bark if, like, something was at the door. Like, living by yourself in Hollywood...
I never lived in Hollywood, but I lived in North Hollywood, and then I lived in Encino, and then I moved further out. I just kept moving further and further out. I even thought about Santa Barbara. I'm like, why don't I get a big piece of property on Santa Barbara, get the fuck away from everybody. But I don't want a machine going . You're not hearing shit. I would be paranoid.
I'd be feeling weird. I think when you hit machine time, it's like, dude, I hope someone breaks in here. Fuck, dude. I get sleep apnea when I'm hungover. That's when I get it. Right. Do you sleep on your side? I've got it on my planes. I'm waking myself up. Of course. It's so embarrassing. I had to wake this dude up. Not wake this dude up, but tell him once.
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Chapter 4: What incident involving a Brown University student is mentioned?
If these people in Brown University put the camera up, they can identify that person. Can you imagine how the family would want to go through? Tell the truth to the media here. You guys are putting cameras off. We heard from both the Brown police chief Isn't that where that girl got taken for writing the letter right when this all started? Wasn't she a Brown student or something?
I thought it was Columbia. I don't remember, though.
I don't remember, though.
See if you can find that story because that story is also fucking crazy. Like you're deporting a student for having an opinion about a world war. It's a war that's happening, right? At least from one side of it. Like having an opinion is a problem that gets you ejected from the country. Especially you're at a university, which is supposed to be a place where ideas get challenged.
Yeah, it turns out both sides are totally hypocritical and doing exactly what the other side did. It's interesting because we're getting to see it more clearly than we've ever seen it before, right? Yeah. It seems like it. Tufts University. Tufts. Arrested and detained by ICE agents in Somerville, Massachusetts. What did she say?
She wrote something in the newspaper, I think, like the school newspaper.
Right. An op-ed. But what was it? Let's see if we can read it. I wonder what got her deported.
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Chapter 5: How does the discussion about free speech and deportation unfold?
were the words criticizing leadership she criticized tufts leadership response to the tufts community union senate passing several resolutions concerning human rights violations in gaza months after the op-ed was written and just weeks before she was detained the website canary mission published a profile on miss i don't know how to say her name austurk including her photograph claiming she engaged in anti-israel activism
Its sole support for the contention was a link and screenshots of her op-ed. When asked about her case, Secretary of State Marco Rubio confirmed revoking her visa, adding, we gave you a visa to come and study and get a degree, not to become a social activist that tears up our university campuses. Shut up, Marco. So she was asking – put that up again, please.
So she was asking, she was criticizing Tufts leadership's response to the Tufts Community Union Senate passing several resolutions. So she must be a part of the Tufts Community Union Senate, or someone is. So they passed several resolutions concerning human rights violations. I want to know what she actually said. You know what I mean?
I mean, we're getting a synopsis of what her actual op-ed was. See if we can find it. It's just interesting. Because what can get you kicked out of a country that is the most pro-free speech country on planet Earth? What gets you kicked out? Is it really- It's free speech. Right. But is it only that one? Is it only that one? What if you had an opinion on Ukraine and Russia?
Without date you kicked out? I doubt it. That's weird, right? It certainly is. That's kind of weird. It's a little strange.
Do you ever notice?
Are you noticing? Give me two more beers. I'll let you know. I'll let you know my algorithm's been feeding me. It's kind of crazy because unless someone is outright calling for violence or revolution or to ignore the laws or ignore the rules, if they're just having an opinion on – a gigantic international conflict. That seems crazy to want to kick him out of the country.
Unless there's something more that I don't know. Yeah, maybe she must have said something you would think pretty crazy. But I bet you she didn't. Yeah, she might not have. We'll see. I bet it was a wild ass statement. Oh, this is so long. Try again, President Kumar. Renewing calls for Tufts to adopt March 4th TCU Senate resolutions.
The university's response to Senate resolutions is wholly inadequate and dismissive of the Senate, the collective voice of the student body. First of all, why would Tufts be... doing anything about what's happening in Gaza and what could they really do? You know what I'm saying? What could they really do? I don't know, they might stop it.
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Chapter 6: What insights are shared about the complexities of animal behavior?
It puts pressure on them to vote differently I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, where was she from? But again, isn't that, that's just an opinion. I think it's an opinion. It didn't even, I don't think she even said anything that wild in there. Is that what the fuck she got kicked out for?
There's probably a lot more to it. She's one of three or four authors of this paper even.
That's one of those things where like you got to be able to talk about shit like that And if you can talk about shit like that if you're from Ohio, and they're not gonna send you out of the country somewhere I feel like once you are in America legally well shouldn't we treat you like a fucking American I Other than you being able to vote yet, once you're here legally, we've agreed.
They can vote. They can vote. Turns out they can. They're getting some votes in. They're getting a fucking ton of votes.
It's not zero.
It's not zero. Anybody who says it's zero is fucking lying. Did you see that most recent thing about the Georgia elections? No. Oh, it's kind of crazy. I told you, I checked out, dude. I'm watching fighter jet highlight videos on my phone. You're better off that way. You're better off checking out. I'm waiting for the college football playoffs.
Yeah.
Patiently. They found a ton of... Well, I don't want to put it... Let me pause for a second while I find this.
I got the tweet. You got it? Yeah, but I think it's a... I don't know either. I'm not paying attention to this.
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Chapter 7: What insights are shared about the Zouave soldiers during the Civil War?
Where did they live, though? I think if you look up Zouave's American Civil War. So these guys fought in the Civil War dressed like that? Yeah. Wow. Imagine you're hanging out with a bunch of dudes and everyone's dressing like... Bro, that was the drip. That was the coolest group of dudes. Like, look at these guys. What's with the hats? That's a crazy look.
So how many of those were from the area where this is? Well, Student Chicago won the first one.
Huh.
He formed the first American company inspired by North African light infantry known as the Zouaves that had won distinction in both Algeria and Crimea. Bro, that part of the world.
Chapter 8: How does the discussion shift to the topic of historical military technology?
Whew. Whew, that's one of the things about, like, when Russian fighters fight in the UFC. I always have to, like, I got my little calculations. Like, this guy, he moves really good. I'm like, he's from where? Oh, he's from Chechnya? Well, he's going to win. Well, he's probably going to fuck this guy up.
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A fellow who can pull up a 110-pound dumbbell, who can climb up an 80-foot rope hand over hand with a barrel flower hanging to his heels. Hanging to his heels. I don't know what that means. Who can jump 17 feet 4 inches high without a springboard. 17 feet high. They must have been crazy.
Who can tie his legs in a double bow knot round his neck without previously softening his shin bones in a steam bath. What? Who can take a five-shooting revolver in each hand and knock the spots off the ten of diamonds at 80 paces, turning somersaults all the time and firing every shot in the air. That's a suave. All right. Whose quote is this? That's a silly quote. He was gay for the Zaves.
I'll tell you what they can do. This guy. This guy's doing backflips and shooting cards.
Yeah, it's supposed to be an exaggeration.
Of course. Of course, you can't jump fucking 20 feet. Nobody can do that. At first, I was with you, though. He said he shot the spades at 80 yards. What did he say, 80 paces? Yeah, it says Americans were going nuts over the new kind of fighting force. 80 paces is kind of crazy. How far is 80 paces? What does that mean when they say 80 paces? I got it right. New York, I feel good about that.
So it's just like if you just a full step? I guess. But it's everybody's step is longer or shorter. True. So what is it like? Shooting a card with a fucking musket at 80 yards. You know how retarded that is? If you're doing a draw or a duel against a short guy, you're fucked, dude. He's going to hit 10 paces real quick. Get shot in the back. I think everybody has a count. It's ready, aim, fire.
10 paces. This is the first guy. It also says he was the first Union officer to die in combat. He's a dork. He was trying to wear cool clothes and got shot.
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